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« Reply #25 on: October 01, 2008, 03:44:12 PM »

Richard, I do home d - and my cat is a big help!   ;D
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« Reply #26 on: October 01, 2008, 06:49:23 PM »

When Marvin was in-center, 3-4 kilos was his average (except for Mondays -- after the two days off when he'd go in with 4-5 kilos!).  It was so strange because he was vigilant to the point of being obsessive about watching his intake (no output at all, though, poor fella!).  During in-center, the scale was his worst enemy, and he hated stepping on it.  The nurses/techs insisted on pulling off every single fraction of a kilo they could get in those four-hour treatments.  Grrrrrrrrr....

Now that he's on home-hemo, the scale is no big deal.  He usually puts on 1 (every so often 2) kilos between treatments.  We had to adjust our thinking when we switched to home hemo.  Take off most today, and we'll get the rest tomorrow.  Getting down to his exact (or as close as you can come to "exact") dry weight in one treatment on home hemo isn't the main goal.  That's another reason why he loves home hemo.  Also, he's "allowed" an extra glass or two a day of fluid intake on home hemo.   :yahoo;  Marvin says if home hemo could only make him pee-pee again, it would be perfect!
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« Reply #27 on: October 01, 2008, 09:01:05 PM »

I could never pull that much off.  Did try three the other day and had to adjust it because my bp dropped too low.  Richard - there are exceptions to be able to do Nxstage alone you know...  just thought I would mention it. 
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« Reply #28 on: October 02, 2008, 01:44:06 AM »

When i had my first dialysis session apparently they took off 4 and a half litres of fluid. i cant really remember it because i was still groggy from the anesthetic of my operation.

but now on dialysis i cant take of more than 3 and half. otherwise i end up crashing and cramping  :(
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« Reply #29 on: October 02, 2008, 07:54:06 AM »

every one is differant. after a weekend I am sometimes 5 kilos and have no problem until right at the end. Then like I said earlier you have to watch the BP...Boxman
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« Reply #30 on: October 02, 2008, 08:32:03 AM »

I don't think we have NXstage down here....
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« Reply #31 on: October 02, 2008, 03:19:50 PM »

No Rich.....we don't have NXstage in Australia. When I do my home dialysis training I'll let you know if you could manage.  My eyesight these days is absolutely atrocious but I was told that it won't pose a problem with needling etc and they said I would understand when I get there.  When I went to the home training clinic, they told me that most people who do home dialysis are doing it on their own.  Anyhow, I will let you know how it works Aussie style. xxx
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« Reply #32 on: October 02, 2008, 03:31:13 PM »

Be sure to tell all of us too Cindy.  I'm always hopelessly curious about different ways of doing things.
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« Reply #33 on: October 02, 2008, 05:04:19 PM »

I'm like Boxman, I've pulled around 5 several times (usually after a skipped treatment) with no problems or ill effects. Just watch the BP and run a good UF profile.
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« Reply #34 on: October 02, 2008, 05:12:28 PM »

In center a couple of times I was at 4 kilos but never could take off more than 3.8 or major cramps, blackout etc..stand on my head.  First day in training I had 4 and they said only to take off 2 at a time and that worked..since that time the most I've had was 1.2 after 3 days off..labor day...and usually .6.  I think every person has their own limits and needs to know them.
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« Reply #35 on: October 02, 2008, 07:36:57 PM »

I like UF profile 6 personally. Usually run it if I am needing to take off over 2.5kg

I've never attempted 5... 5 is the max they will attempt down here. The most I ever took off was 4.3 and it was not a lot of fun for me... good inducement to stay on the light side!
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« Reply #36 on: October 02, 2008, 07:53:11 PM »

I usually run Profile 2 when I want to take off over 3 kilos. I've found 5,6,7 and 8 to be very similar. It ain't how much you take it off, it's how well you do it. I think it's really a matter of physical strength and condition. I see people crash all the time who are taking off less than 2 kilos.
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« Reply #37 on: October 02, 2008, 07:54:54 PM »

I like profile 6 because it takes off more initially but goes in steps with a break (down to 100 ufr) every 30 mins, which really works for me.

Everyone's different I guess. You gotta do what works for you!
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3/1993: Diagnosed with Kidney Failure (FSGS)
25/7/2006: Started hemo 3x/week 5 hour sessions :(
27/11/2010: Cadaveric kidney transplant from my wonderful donor!!! "Danny" currently settling in and working better every day!!! :)

BE POSITIVE * BE INFORMED * BE PROACTIVE * BE IN CONTROL * LIVE LIFE!
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« Reply #38 on: October 02, 2008, 08:31:44 PM »

That sounds just like my profile 2. Mine is Fresenius 2008K. On mine you can pull up the little graphs that show what's going on.
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« Reply #39 on: October 02, 2008, 09:18:12 PM »

yep we used the 2008K's and 2008S's..... the graphs are cool :)
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3/1993: Diagnosed with Kidney Failure (FSGS)
25/7/2006: Started hemo 3x/week 5 hour sessions :(
27/11/2010: Cadaveric kidney transplant from my wonderful donor!!! "Danny" currently settling in and working better every day!!! :)

BE POSITIVE * BE INFORMED * BE PROACTIVE * BE IN CONTROL * LIVE LIFE!
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« Reply #40 on: October 10, 2008, 10:58:04 AM »

By the way... last session was painful as reported in another thread... but

I had a net loss of over 7 kilos in this session!  I am still in shock over that number!  The most to date.  I may be able to skip the Saturday  (4th session) this week because of that.  Today will tell the tale.

-Devon
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