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« on: February 08, 2010, 06:21:43 PM »
A suggestion (by a tec) to my hubby was to have a bit of salt in something before dialysis.  he has limited his salt so much and they're thinking that's why he's not 'releasing' the fluids to dialysis.  Im wondering if anyone knows how long it takes to actually get into the system.  He wants to just take something to eat there, but i think they ment 'before'.  If anyone knows, i'd sure appreciat it.. I dont want it to just be getting into his system 'as' we're leaving his treatment  ::) 
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« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2010, 06:25:04 PM »
I think it's very fast Boswife.  10 mins before is probably fine
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« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2010, 03:01:32 PM »
Thanks sooooooo much for your speedy reply.. I got it last night so was prepaired to salt him up..hehe just a little... this morn.  Hope it did some good.  I was too tired to thanks ya last night, so am thanking you now..  Hope your day was good, and your tomorrows too...
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« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2010, 03:06:42 PM »
Doesn't salt make one retain fluid, not release it?
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« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2010, 03:13:42 PM »
I know what your saying calypso, and yes it does, and it was really  a weard thing to think of doing.  The reasoning was that,,, oh crap..lol   i forget the reasoning, but i think it worked.  Something about that he eats nearly no salt at all so his body was hording it, so hopfully giving it some would fool it into letting some go...  Something like that...
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« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2010, 03:56:34 PM »
I've never heard of this.
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« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2010, 04:01:54 PM »
I've never heard of this either and don't understand it at all.   
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« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2010, 06:00:39 PM »
My BP droped at home one time to below 80 and the D staff suggested I needed some quick salt, dill pickles and potato chips.
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« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2010, 06:25:52 PM »
Dont know exact time but when people drop bp really low at the end of dialysis here they give them broth from a paste mix.  So it must enter the bloodstream pretty fast to pull fluid from tissue back into the blood.   Most are able to leave with 10-15 after drinking it as their bp has risen.
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« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2010, 07:40:13 PM »
right on BigSky,,, that sounds much like what i had read, and then the tech also spoke of... He finally looks and weighs better, so im glad we gave it a shot.  All we gave him was a piece of well deserved bacon and a piece of store bought sprouted grain toast that had salt in it so i didnt try to od him or anything.  Its just that he normally has home made bread  (no salt) and he never gets bacon so it was kind of a treat/treatment.. 
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« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2010, 10:56:22 AM »
Once on hemo my BP dropped so low they couldn't release me.  I drank two cups of chicken broth, but it didn't raise my BP high enough.  They finally opened my catheter and pushed 500 cc's of saline.  I was there nearly an extra 2 hours.  Is it possible he simply doesn't have enough fluid to release?  Just a thought.
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« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2010, 12:12:04 PM »
that is sort of exactly it peleroja.  he didnt have it "available" but he had plenty of it swelling in his legs. (and if you happen to see my other post.....somewhere else too  ??? ) I think because we have gone drastically 'no salt' that we had to give him some for his system to pull it back into 'the stream'.  It's finally 'doing it's thing'            ............. i thnk ;)
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« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2015, 08:42:27 AM »
Quote from: boswife on February 08, 2010, 06:21:43 PM
A suggestion (by a tec) to my hubby was to have a bit of salt in something before dialysis.  he has limited his salt so much and they're thinking that's why he's not 'releasing' the fluids to dialysis.  Im wondering if anyone knows how long it takes to actually get into the system.  He wants to just take something to eat there, but i think they ment 'before'.  If anyone knows, i'd sure appreciat it.. I dont want it to just be getting into his system 'as' we're leaving his treatment  ::)
An article I've read indicates that the salt response in ones body is fairly rapid.
When I sense a low BP starting up while in the chair, I reach for the salted pretzels.
I do use salted pretzels and actually take a pinch of the accumulated salt at the bottom
of my stash used only during dialysis.
If the low BP is severe, I call the tech over, and request that the machine be adjusted.

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The results, published in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, showed blood flow was significantly more impaired within 30 minutes of eating the salty meal than the low-salt alternative and the restriction reached a peak after an hour.

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http://ihatedialysis.com/forum/index.php?board=37.0
http://ihatedialysis.com/forum/index.php?topic=29277.msg462138#msg462138
http://ihatedialysis.com/forum/index.php?topic=32330.msg494980#msg494980
http://ihatedialysis.com/forum/index.php?topic=27052.msg486373#msg486373
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