I Hate Dialysis Message Board
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
November 23, 2024, 06:05:19 AM

Login with username, password and session length
Search:     Advanced search
532606 Posts in 33561 Topics by 12678 Members
Latest Member: astrobridge
* Home Help Search Login Register
+  I Hate Dialysis Message Board
|-+  Dialysis Discussion
| |-+  Dialysis: General Discussion
| | |-+  Is it Really Necessary to Add Heparin to PD bags?
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic. « previous next »
Pages: [1] Go Down Print
Author Topic: Is it Really Necessary to Add Heparin to PD bags?  (Read 3686 times)
BattleScars
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 154

« on: September 12, 2013, 08:56:43 AM »

When I first started PD I was trained to add Heparin to every bag. Not only is this time consuming but doesn't the risk of infection go up? I mean if you are not seeing any fibrin or only seeing it every now and then why take the chance of exposing yourself to infection 4 times a day? When I do see fibrin I will go ahead and add Heparin to my next bag but no way am I going to add it to every bag if there isn't a problem. It seems like overkill. My nurse at Davita discourages adding Heparin for this very reason. Am I the only one that doesn't hardly add it at all? 
Logged
okarol
Administrator
Member for Life
*****
Offline Offline

Gender: Female
Posts: 100933


Photo is Jenna - after Disneyland - 1988

WWW
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2013, 10:43:25 AM »

Jenna started PD a week ago. No heparin has been added. The training nurse mentioned it's use only if it looks like Jenna has difficulty filling or draining.
Logged


Admin for IHateDialysis 2008 - 2014, retired.
Jenna is our daughter, bad bladder damaged her kidneys.
Was on in-center hemodialysis 2003-2007.
7 yr transplant lost due to rejection.
She did PD Sept. 2013 - July 2017
Found a swap living donor using social media, friends, family.
New kidney in a paired donation swap July 26, 2017.
Her story ---> https://www.facebook.com/WantedKidneyDonor
Please watch her video: http://youtu.be/D9ZuVJ_s80Y
Living Donors Rock! http://www.livingdonorsonline.org -
News video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-7KvgQDWpU
Deanne
Elite Member
*****
Offline Offline

Gender: Female
Posts: 1841


« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2013, 11:18:35 AM »

I just started a week ago, too. My nurse gave me a couple bottles of heparin and said I'd be told to use if if I started seeing fibrin in the drain bags, but it was something I'd call them about first.
Logged

Deanne

1972: Diagnosed with "chronic kidney disease" (no specific diagnosis)
1994: Diagnosed with FSGS
September 2011: On transplant list with 15 - 20% function
September 2013: ~7% function. Started PD dialysis
February 11, 2014: Transplant from deceased donor. Creatinine 0.57 on 2/13/2014
Weggy
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 49

« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2013, 12:14:49 PM »

I've never had to use heparin. I don't have any in my house. I was told if I have lots of fibrin that I could call and ask for it. Honestly, I can't remember the last time I saw fibrin in my fluid.
Logged
MaryD
Elite Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 1010


« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2013, 05:44:38 PM »

I've never used heparin in two years of CAPD.  Never seen much in the way of fibrin either.
Logged
Joe
Elite Member
*****
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 1166


« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2013, 07:08:45 PM »

I was trained to only use it when I saw fibrin in my drain bag. Haven't had to use any of it since I started CCPD.
Logged

Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly.
Leave the rest to God...
amanda100wilson
Elite Member
*****
Offline Offline

Gender: Female
Posts: 1202

« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2013, 07:40:02 AM »

Only ever used it if I saw fibrin
Logged

ESRD 22 years
  -PD for 18 months
  -Transplant 10 years
  -PD for 8 years
  -NxStage since October 2011
Healthy people may look upon me as weak because of my illness, but my illness has given me strength that they can't begin to imagine.

Always look on the bright side of life...
Riki
Elite Member
*****
Offline Offline

Gender: Female
Posts: 3408


WWW
« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2013, 09:46:57 PM »

I only used it if there was fibrin too.  I only had to do it once every 6-8 months, and that was over almost 5 years.  I never used a whole bottle of heparin.  It would always expire before I needed to use it again.
Logged

Dialysis - Feb 1991-Oct 1992
transplant - Oct 1, 1992- Apr 2001
dialysis - April 2001-May 2001
transplant - May 22, 2001- May 2004
dialysis - May 2004-present
PD - May 2004-Dec 2008
HD - Dec 2008-present
billybags
Elite Member
*****
Offline Offline

Gender: Female
Posts: 2190


« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2013, 05:45:52 AM »

I only use heprin in my husbands bags if there is a lot of fibrin, he is on the cycler so you can see it floating around in the large drain bags..The manual bags are more difficult to see fibrin I think. He can go for months with no fibrin, then all of a sudden we get a couple of weeks when it is there. I would use heprin for a couple of days, it would clear then it would sometimes come back. Apparrently it is not some thing to worry about, thats whar the nurse says. Using it every day, I would say it is over kill.
Logged
adairpete
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Gender: Female
Posts: 109


Me and Karl

« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2013, 09:21:21 PM »

When I first started pd it was recommended cuz I make a ton of fibrin. Even though I still see it regularly I only put it in once a day and alot of the time I'll just ignore it unless it gets worse. In my opinion if you don't see fibrin you don't heparin.
Logged

Diagnosis: distal renal tubular acidosis with medullary sponge kidney
3/4/2010 started hemo via sub-clavian catheter
6/15/2010 listed for kidney (on hold)
8/2/2010 started CAPD
3/20/12 on active wait list for kidney
Pages: [1] Go Up Print 
« previous next »
 

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP SMF 2.0.17 | SMF © 2019, Simple Machines | Terms and Policies Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!