Going Vegetarian on a renal diet

[Sugarlump]

I am considering going vegetarian (Virtually 100%) and am looking for advice on how to adapt my low potassium/low phosphate diet?
I do not eat pasta.
All suggestions/advice/help welcome 

[kristina]

Hello Sugar,
Why don't you eat pasta? I mention this because there are now many different sorts of pasta,
and if you allergic to one sort, you may be able to eat another sort ...?
If you want to go vegetarian straight away, it might be a good idea to make a list
about all your favourite vegetarian foods and "work around this list", to give yourself a very good start ...
I adapted my own low potassium and low phosphate diet to a selection of a few small portions of different vegetables
and then I add to these as a snack later on in the day, a slice of my self baked bread with a bit of organic crunchy peanut-butter...
... or a slice of toasted "marmite-soldiers" (which has now become for anyone who would have a problem with garlic:
 "Meridian Natural Yeast Extract with added Vitamin B12") from the Health Shop... fortunately for me there is no garlic there...
... I wish you good luck and please keep in mind, that it is only a bit difficult in the beginning until it has become routine...
... and please let us know if we can help any further and let us know how you are getting on with it, best wishes from Kristina.

P.S. It might be a good idea to consult with your nephrologist and dietician about your plans because of your being on dialysis...
   

[Sugarlump]

I really don't like it (the texture puts me off) although i will eat a small amount of spaghetti or linguine if it's covered in sauce!
I like vegetable stir fries, broccoli or cauliflower in cheese sauce. raw crudites with hummus, but snacks tend to be my downfall
or a quick sandwich and i don't want to resort to egg or cheese all the time. i love peanut butter but it's on my restricted list (as are
all nuts they are very high in potassium)
i need to learn to be more adventurous but watch fluid intake at same time, which is a pity because I love soup.
What sort of homemade bread do you make?















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[kristina]

Hello Sugar,
I always use a breadmaking-machine (which I have used for almost 7 years three times every week, touch wood it continues another few years...)
Each bread needs altogether 4 cups of white flour, but I use 3 level-cups of white flour and then half a cup of rye flour,
with the rest of the cup filled up to level again with white flour to make the bread healthier and very tasty.
I then use 1 and 7/8th teaspoons of yeast, using for measurements the special plastic measuring device supplied with the breadmaking-machine ...
(Yeast has to be measured precisely to make sure the bread rises and bakes well ) ...
For seasoning I use: quarter of a teaspoonful ground-nutmeg, quarter of a teaspoonful black pepper and quarter of a teaspoonful ground cumin...
... then I put altogether 3 table-spoonfuls of virgin olive oil over everything and over the olive oil I spread one and a half spoonfuls of very fine (caster) sugar...
... over all this I then put carefully one and a half cup of (filtered) water and that is it... Four hours later my bread is baked...
... and it always tastes very lovely...
Tip: Rub into the inner lid of the breadmaking-machine a little olive oil to stop the bread sticking to the lid when it rises...
Bon appétit from Kristina.

[cassandra]

If you're making bread 'by hand', there's lots of 'no kneading' bread recipes on you tube.

Good luck, Cas

[MuddyGurl]

Hello to all.
First on the PASTA question..ther are NO real low carb pastas, they are all wheat or flour based, and do not fit in a Low Carb diet, and for diabetics and insulin resistance pasta is as bad a candy.

Vegetarian diets can be VERY healthy but ONLY when there is adequate full protein and amino acids. doing a lot of supplementing over time is not ideal.

For Kidney and dialysis patients especially  a plant based diet is PERFECT to protect the kidney and slow/stall the function loss. We have only so many nephews, when they die off there is NO solution, no medical dugs or fixes.  Didney disease is silent, but unlike HBPO there are no meds to help normalcy.

SO FOOD is the nobly answer, and most MDs and Nephs and dietitians have no idea that a Low Carb diet is better for you than a SAD. Even renal dietitians push the 130 evil carbs a day that keep your blood sugar and insulin in turmoil.

I am NOT knocking insulin, if you need it, you take it, despite some doc claiming CURE of diabetes, this is not truly possible. You can  turn the problem around, but only with a great diet.
I will be posting extensively with this information…if you are CURIOUS please reply and ask questions. We need lots more education on nutrition, and improving our health, and it is possible and you CAN do it.

See attached: Vegetarian Compared with Meat Dietary Protein Source and Phosphorus Homeostasis in Chronic Kidney Disease
Quick note: THREE magic HEALTH words: Phosphorous, Magnesium & Methionine - see links

When you understand WHY we need to reduce Methionine (in MEAT) , in conjunction with phosphorous (veggie phosphorous  doesn't effect the gut) , and INCREASE Magnesium we are ALL short on!!!!  this is a critical mineral.   With it you WILL  LOSE muscle cramps, gain energy, reduce waste load on the kidney--all due to a Vegetarian-Plant based diet.  And the IDEAL protein besides eggs is Hemp Seed….  DO A WEB SEARCH OR LOOK IN PUBMED.COM FOR MORE ARTICLES.