You know what REALLY pisses me off? When sport stars use OUR Epogen for an edge.

[Epoman]

When I see an ad in a body builders magazine or in a sport magazine with ads for Epogen, I get REALLY pissed. Here we are using it so we can have enough energy to wipe our butts and here come these ungrateful a-holes who have perfectly healthy STRONG bodies. But is that enough? NO! they want to get stronger, faster, of bigger so what do they do? they take Epogen.

I call them ungrateful because they are blessed with a healthy strong body but they are not satisfied.

I can understand someone who is on "chemo" who takes it or some other illness where Epogen can help their situation, but it sickens me when healthy people take it.

What's your feeling on this subject?

[LifeOnHold]

Yes, thanks, all of you healthy able-bodied people using Epogen who are JACKING UP THE PRICE!  Thanks to you, dialysis units are under even more financial pressure.

[Epoman]

Yes, thanks, all of you healthy able-bodied people using Epogen who are JACKING UP THE PRICE!  Thanks to you, dialysis units are under even more financial pressure.

At one point I was on 24,000 units of Epo 3 times a week so that was 72,000 units a week  That's alot of money. And I was bearly getting 30 crit. Now a days after my parathyroid surgery I only get 3,000-6,000 units 3 times a week but I easily hit 40+ crits they have to hold my Epo.

[Marina]

I  wonder  if  that  will hurt  them  in the  long  run.   Because  I've  heard  of  body builders  who  used  insulin  for  the  same  reason  (to get  bigger)  and  their  body  became  dependent  on it...............they  became  diabetics.
     DUMB  FOOLS  if  they  only  knew  what  life  as  a diabetic  and  now  kidney  failure  patient  has  been  for  many (as  myself)  they would  probably stop using it,  then  again  maybe not.