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Dialysis Discussion => Dialysis: Diet and Recipes => Topic started by: Epoman on July 12, 2006, 12:55:42 PM
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Some of you posted that you wish we had a "Diet" section here on ihatedialysis.com, well here you go! I also made this section for "Recipes" to. So come here to rant and vent about your diet or just come to talk and find out from fellow patients how they handle their diet restrictions. Or come here to post your recipes you have found or created. I will be moving all the diet and Recipe related threads from other sections into this new section.
That is what this site is all about "A site FOR patients BY patients" So if you have a request, comment, or even a complaint please head over to the comments section, and let your voice be heard.
- Epoman
Owner/Admin
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YAY!!! Thanks! ;D
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Hot damn! I will get the first rant ready to go about diet and bloodwork. Probably after I get my blood work results next week. Get ready to rumble!!!
Thanks Mr. Epoman!
Katherine
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about time :) Now for everyone to post their best recipies that we can actually eat ;)
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Orange Banana Smoothy
Oppss - Recipes that we CAN actually eat?? !! :D
Here goes: Fill blender with ice. Add one slice orange and one slice bananna. Blend and drink. Yummmmm
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Hello high potassium with that drink!
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PMSL rerun :D :D :D
Thanks for adding this section Epo! I am a bit of a foodie and will be looking forward to everyone posting on this topic!
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so who is gonna start? I still have to find mine because when I moved things got lost .. I gotta find them...
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Very nice. Thank you.
I think we need to start with a yummy dessert recipe. Anyone? Anyone?
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Very nice. Thank you.
I think we need to start with a yummy dessert recipe. Anyone? Anyone?
OK, I think I have a good one. Well at least I like it alot ! ! !
It is an Angle Food Cake. So u make that. Now the topping.
16 oz container of thawed Cool Whip
3.4 oz of jello instant vanilla pudding mix. ( i like to use 2 )
20 oz can of crushed pineapple (drained well)
mix the cool whip and pudding together until the pudding mix is dissolved ( don't make the pudding, just dump the contents in the cool whip) after that, add the drained crushed pineapple. mix well....
I like to cut the cake in half so there are 2 layers of topping.
If anyone makes it, let me know how it turns out. ;) :popcorn; :thx;
Enjoy ! ! ! [/glow]
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Okay, I may just be dumb...But first you make the angel food cake, then the topping?
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Got a good Angel Food Cake recipe for that icing? :P
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Okay, I may just be dumb...But first you make the angel food cake, then the topping?
I would just buy the cake ... and make the frosting! Always fun to lick the bowl. :P
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Okay, I may just be dumb...But first you make the angel food cake, then the topping?
It doesnt matter. If you make the topping first just put it in the fridge so it does not melt. ;)
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I don't know if this is repeat info - couldn't see it anywhere.
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Here's another free cookbook - it's designed for dialysis patients -
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~Karol
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FREE COOKBOOKS
https://www.fosrenol.com/Consumers/Resources/CookBooks.aspx
or call toll free (866) 896-6152.
Here's another free cookbook - it's designed for dialysis patients -
you can download the entire copy online -
go to --> http://www.epogen.com/patient/patient_info/educational_materials/dialysis_cookbook/introduction.jsp
Ya those 2 links I have run across before. Good links! :2thumbsup;
Here is a quote from my forums:
Renal Recipes Links!
- http://www.rsnhope.org/health_info/renal_friendly_recipes.php
- http://www.kidney.ab.ca/kitchen/index.html
- http://www.epogen.com/patient/patient_info/educational_materials/dialysis_cookbook/toc.jsp
- http://www.davita.com/recipes/
And as well I am going to include places to get FREE Renal Recipe Cookbooks!!
- https://www.fosrenol.com/Consumers/Resources/CookBooks.aspx *Available ONLY in U.S.*
And .. books you can buy:
- The Renal Patient's Guide to Good Eating: A Cookbook for Patients by a Patient
Charles C. Thomas Publisher, 2600 S. First St., Springfield, IL 62794-9265
1989, 200 pages, hardcover $32.75
Written by Judith A. Curtis who has kidney failure. In the foreword, Judith A. Frank, a registered dietitian at the Renal Institute of the Pacific, Honolulu, reports that she recommends this book to her patients who ask for more ideas on following a renal diet. She also says that the cookbook is suitable for persons following a heart-healthy rather than a renal diet.
- The Kidney Patient's Book: New Treatment, New Hope
Great Issues Press, P.O. Box 1336, Delran, NJ 08075
1991, 376 pages, hardcover $24.95
Written by Timothy P. Ahlstrom.
- Kidney Patient's Wellness Diet--Tasty Recipes
Grunwald and Radcliff Publishers, Suite 344, 5049 Admiral Wright Road, Virginia Beach, VA 23462
1986, 84 pages, spiral-bound $9.95
The National Kidney Foundation of Georgia has endorsed this cookbook by Emma W. Keenan. The recipes, which are low in protein, sodium, potassium, and fat, include ideas for breakfast, soups, meat dishes, and desserts. The recipes and cooking tips are concise and easy to follow. The book offers options for a restrictive diet.
- The Renal Gourmet or What to Cook When Your Kidneys Quit
Order from Emenar Inc., Suite 6100, 1545 Lee Street, Des Plaines, IL 60018
196 pages, spiral-bound $17.80 (+ $3.20 S&H)
Written and illustrated by Mardy Peters, a kidney patient who has been on hemodialysis for nearly 4 years, this book has recipes for everything from appetizers to desserts and is designed for anyone interested in a healthful, low salt diet. Recipes include nutrition analysis for calories, protein, sodium, phosphorus, and potassium.
- What Is This Thing Called Phosphorus? A Patient Guide to Controlling Phosphorus
The booklet is available free by calling Abbott Laboratories Renal Care at 1-800-323-0855
Registered dietitian Carol Bergen, M.S., wrote this 9-page illustrated booklet to help renal patients understand the importance of controlling phosphorus. Topics include balancing calcium and phosphorus, the importance of dialysis, limiting phosphorus in the diet, and phosphorus-binding medications.
- Cooking for David: (http://www.culinarykidneycooks.com/)
A Culinary Dialysis Cookbook[/url]
Cooking for David: A Culinary Dialysis Cookbook can be ordered from www.culinarykidneycooks.com or Culinary Kidney Cooks, P.O. Box 468, Huntington Beach, CA 92648. The book costs $24, plus an additional $5 for postage and handling. Residents of California must add a 7.25 percent sales tax, or $1.74.
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Thanks Angie.
Davita has recipe cards available for free too.
Beautifully presented dishes are printed on easy-to-read cards you can wipe clean. Recipes are easy to
follow with a complete ingredients list, step-by-step preparations and helpful hints. Nutrients per serving
are listed, including potassium, phosphorus and sodium to keep track of your renal diet, as well as Renal
and Renal Diabetic Food Choices. Diet types for chronic kidney disease (CKD) non dialysis, CKD dialysis
and CKD diabetes are indicated.
go to --> http://davita.com/recipecards/?id=788&CMP=ILC-recipecardhomepage
~Karol
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Thanks for the links, you guys! They are definitely something I will check out.
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how about some ranting??
i do not follow any diet (diabetic, renal, high bp, nothing) because in the end i will kick the bucket (just like u all will, fact of life people) >:D n i want to go enjoying the only thing i have left to enjoy n that is FOOD!!!!.
so there u go, don't expect no recipes from me :lol; pottasium, sodium k, ko, po4, mp3, h2o, cd, ccd, is all bullshit n it can be controlled with renagel n the sort, so why bother, remember i'm ranting so don't take it personal i usually eat out anyways.
enjoy guys n happy dieting to you all
rolando
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Idunno what to say, but good luck with that. ;D
I'm no longer on a renal diet since I had a transplant, but I do watch how much fatty foods I eat jusy because there not healthy for you in the end. Which is fine by me, cause I don't really eat many of them anyways.
My favorite food, Taco's soft or hard, from Taco Bell.... Mmmmmmmmmm.
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(Remember, I got these recipes from my renal dietician, so don't ask me)
2 cups canned chickpeas
1 tsp cumin sees
1 tsp coriander seeds
1/2 red pepper, seeded and diced
1/2 orange pepper, seeded and diced
1/8 medium red cabbage, shredded
1/2 lettuce, shredded
1 large carrot, diced
1/2 cucumber, sliced
1/4 red onion, sliced
1 tsp chopped fresh cilantro (optional)
1 tsp chopped fresh mint (optional)
DRESSING
2 garlic cloves, crushed
1 tbsp olive oil
2 tbsp lemon juice
large pinch of sugar
1 tsp crushed dried chilies
Papa Dash to taste
PROCEDURE
Drain chickpeas and rinse with water
Toast cumin and coriander seeds in nonstick pan until fragrant, about 1 minute, then crush them roughly with a mortar and pestle
Combine all ingredients of dressing in a small bowl and set aside
Mix the remaining salad ingredients in a salad bowl
Pour the dressing over the top and toss to coat uniformly
Sprinkle the cumin and coriander seeds over the top before serving
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1 cup lentils, dried
1/2 tsp turmeric
1/4 tsp Papa Dash
4 cups water
4 cups basmati rice
TEMPERING OIL
2 1/2 tbsp canola oil
1 1/4 tsp cumin seeds
2 whole dried red chilies
1/2 tsp cayenne pepper
juice of 1/2 lemon or lime
PROCEDURE
Place lentils into large saucepan with turmeric, Papa Dash, and water. Bring to a boil. Turn heat down, cover and let simmer for 20-30 minutes.
Take about 1/2 cup of lentils and place in a small bowl. Mash them with a spoon and return them to the pot of lentils. Stir. Continue to cook for an additional 5 minutes.
Heat oil in frying pan over medium-high heat. Add cumin seeds and cook until light brown for 1-2 minutes. Add the whole chiles and cook for additional 30 seconds while stirring.
Remove pan from heat and add cayenne and sprinkle in few drops of cold water to stop cooking.
Stir in half the tempering oil and all the lime/lemon juice into the dal and simmer, uncovered for 5 minutes.
Transfer the dal to a serving bowl and pour the remaining tempering oil over top.
Serve with cooked basmati rice.
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2 oz Paneer, cubed
8 oz mushrooms
1 cup shelled fresh peas
4 tbsp butter
1 tsp cayenne pepper
1 tsp turmeric
1 tbsp chopped fresh coriander leaves
2 cups cooked long grain basmati rice
1 lb water packed extra firm tofu
PROCEDURE
Prepare baked tofu and cut into cubes
Melt butter and add peas and sliced mushrooms. Cook for a few minutes.
Add spices and chopped coriander, cubed cheese (paneer) and tofu.
Simmer for 5 minutes.
Serve warm over rice.
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4 eggs
8 egg whites
1/4 tsp freshly ground black pepper
3 tbsp vegetable oil
1 tsp cumin seeds
1 cup chopped onion
2 tsp finely chopped green chilies, preferably serranos
1 cup chopped tomatoes
1/2 tsp cayenne pepper
1/4 tsp turmeric
1/4 cup cilantro, chopped
Papa Dash
PROCEDURE
Gently whisk eggs, Papa Dash, and pepper in bowl. Do not beat.
In a large skillet, heat oil over medium heat and add cumin seeds.
Stir in onion and green chilies and saute until golden, about 3-4 minutes.
Add tomato and saute, stirring continuously about 1 minute. Stir in rest of spices and cook an additional few minutes.
Reduce heat to medium-low and slowly add egg mixture. Cook, stirring gently until eggs are soft and creamy, about 3-4 minutes.
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1 lb water packed extra firm tofu
1/4 cup canola oil
2 tsp cumin seeds
1 tsp black mustard seeds (optional)
2 fresh hot green chiles, seeded and finely chopped
2 cups chopped red onion
Papa Dash
1 green pepper, seeded and finely diced
2 medium tomatoes, chopped
1 cup chopped fresh cilantro
PROCEDURE
Mash tofu in bowl
Heat oil on medium heat. Cook cumin and mustard seeds until cumin seeds turn a golden brown or mustard seeds crackle for 1-2 minutes (cover as seeds pop and splatter)
Add chiles to pan cook for about 30 seconds
Add onion, pepper, and Papa Dash and let cook for additional 1-2 minutes
Add tofu. Cook until water evaporates
Add tomatoes, cilantro
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These are all great, Thanks Carson!
But what about the values? Calories, Protein, Phosphorus, and Potassium? ;)
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I have to confess I am a citrus junkie, When I was told I cant have any oranges or juice I was so upset, I went and bought artificial orange pops, That didnt work :banghead; I wanted pulp orange pulp >:(>Then one day I spoke with my dietician explaned my craving for citrus fruit, she then gave me a list of the citruses i can have occasionaly when my phoserus is doing well I have a clementine or even canned manderine oranges :2thumbsup;
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:2thumbsup; great Lisa (Carson),thanks!
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My husbands renal dietitian seems to know less then we do about his diet-she has yet to give any pertinent advice and has,in fact given us dangerous advice, I would have to check the nutrion facts on these recipes before feeding them to my "patient". >:D >:D >:D
Chickpeas (garbanzo beans, bengal gram), mature seeds, canned
Nutrient Units 1.00 X 1 cup
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Water g 167.26
Phosphorus, P mg 216
Potassium, K mg 413
Sodium, Na mg 718
thats pretty high.......plus raw carrot is also very high in potassium
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I found a great recipe this week that i had in my fridge and worked like a charm.Here goes one cup of strawberrys(fresh) imatation sugar free bannana pudding ( mixed with one cup of nondairy creamer and one cup of water)Mix well Pour over in a glass bowl three slces of angel food cake.Slice the strawberrys on top chill for a hour >after, top with cool whip and decorate with flavored sprinkles...And Enjoy :2thumbsup;
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Chickpeas (garbanzo beans, bengal gram), mature seeds, canned
Nutrient Units 1.00 X 1 cup
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Water g 167.26
Phosphorus, P mg 216
Potassium, K mg 413
Sodium, Na mg 718
thats pretty high.......plus raw carrot is also very high in potassium
Recipes will offer us "freedom" only when they include the values (potassium, phosphorus, protein, and calories) that we need to keep track of each day.
Most of us on hemo have a daily limit of:
phosphorus--1,000 mg
potassium--2,000 mg
And a daily need of:
About 1.2 grams of protein per kilogram of body weight
About 35 calories per kilogram of body weight
This is according to the National Kidney Foundation (U.S.)
Information=Freedom 8)
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well, my phosphorus is moderate and I eat alot of high phosphorus foods (dairy, beans) and my potassium is usually on the low side so I don't worry a whole lot. My biggest concern at this point is sodium and fluid intake.
I am sure these recipes aren't for everyone and you should consider your own needs before trying them, but somebody asked me for some Indian recipes and I obliged.
For those of you who can eat them on occaision, I hope you enjoy them. Besides, after looking at all the crap most of you listed in the "what's for dinner" topic, I don't think you should be so critical!!
>:D
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See, I am different. I do not worry so much about the sodium, but then I dropped an awful lot of it out of the diet and do not use the salt shaker at all on meals. The potassium seems to take care of itself, but that darn phosphorous goes crazy!
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well, my phosphorus is moderate and I eat alot of high phosphorus foods (dairy, beans) and my potassium is usually on the low side so I don't worry a whole lot. My biggest concern at this point is sodium and fluid intake.
I am sure these recipes aren't for everyone and you should consider your own needs before trying them, but somebody asked me for some Indian recipes and I obliged.
For those of you who can eat them on occaision, I hope you enjoy them. Besides, after looking at all the crap most of you listed in the "what's for dinner" topic, I don't think you should be so critical!!
>:D
Alot of the people in that thread have had transplants or are pre-dialysis ;D ;D >:D
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Alot of the people in that thread have had transplants or are pre-dialysis ;D ;D >:D
Or just don't care on some days. :-\
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Alot of the people in that thread have had transplants or are pre-dialysis ;D ;D >:D
Or just don't care on some days. :-\
Or are on PD and the diet is a little less restrictive. ;) But that darn Phosphorous gets us too! ggggrrrrrrrrr
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I have very high phosphorous but there are days when you really must eat the foods you enjoy, if only occasionally - and chickpeas are one of the things I love.
All of my favourite foods/drinks are on the restricted list - all legumes, nuts, Coca Cola and beer are supposedly complete no-nos, and I am greatly restricted on my other favourite thing, dairy. I'm also supposed to eat white bread (yuck!) over my much preferred grain or wholemeal bread.
Needless to say, these restrictions put my two favourite cuisines on the extremely restrictive (if not banned) list! Indian and Mexican are my favourites. I am also a vegetarian. So for a while, I was a at a loss to know what to eat. I hated everything that I was allowed to have. The upshot was, I was basically not eating, and I dropped to 44.5 kg. That's less healthy than having the occasional treat (.e.g a big fat Indian curry), I figure.
Recently, my phosphorous has come down quite a bit compared to what it was. Obviously the phosphate binders are doing their job.
Thanks again for the recipes Lisa.
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isn't giving up wheat bread just the hardest thing- I now only buy white or butter bread, just because it takes all of us to eat the loaf before it molds, so i buy what everyone can eat- even my dialyzor, ;D -but white bread is so --pastey. It does help me cut out more carbs-because they taste nasty!!
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I'm the opposite of you two... :lol; I never have liked whole wheat bread or grain or w/e, I only like white, which is probably why I gain weight from eating it. :thumbdown;
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The upshot was, I was basically not eating, and I dropped to 44.5 kg. That's less healthy than having the occasional treat (.e.g a big fat Indian curry), I figure.
Malnutrition is a big problem with dialysis patients.
There's no need to give up any food, when eaten in moderation as part of one's daily limits. It's about managing your renal diet.
Knowing what the values are (potassium, phosphorus, protein, and calories) and keeping track of them will allow you to eat most of your favorite foods. You need to know the amount of phosphorus and understand how many binders are necessary to take with that food.
The real problem is when an individual has to eat a portion enough for two people to be satisfied.
Yes, you can even work into your renal diet 500ml of coke, but not a whole 2 liter bottle.
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I'm a pd patient too, and I was warned off dairy and beans products as well as high phosphorus foods. It does get frustrating
when I can't always eat. I do indulge, but make sure it's an indulgement, not a daily/weekly item. Such as Easter. I'll eat some
ham. I'll plan for that though, with my exchanges, as well as the other foods I eat. I get tired of not being able to eat my
dairy products. Yogurt, ice cream, cheese. Oh man. I love cheese. But I stick to my one piece a day. Ugh.
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Ooooh, Easter ham! Too much salt even when I wasn't haven't blood pressure and fluid retention issues. . . .
My MIL always buys a huge ham at easter, cooks it, and then sends half of it home with me after Easter dinner. I think she's annoyed at me this year so telling her not to do it this year, because I wouldn't be taking any home. If it's here, I'll want to eat it, and I don't want it in the house. She's decided not to cook at all - she and FIL are going out to dinner at a restaurant instead! Ah well, at least I won't have to negotiate the overloaded table full of homemade goodies I'm not supposed to eat anyhow.
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Yeah, Jbeany, I agree, ham is sooo salty. that's why ONE small piece and I call it good! Usually if I can just eat one piece
I am okay with it. After being so strict with the preCKD diet, this is almost a piece of cake. I did say almost! I tend to
drink a lot of water, I just feel better if I do, which will help with the ham, as will my exchange, I'll do a 4.25 solution.
It's hard any more to eat as much at family dinners any way. With all that solution in the area where your tummy would
normally be, I end up eating as much as a four year old sometimes.
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I end up eating as much as a four year old sometimes.
This is what I went through for 3 years, eating less than my children every meal. So when I started to become hungry 24/7, my doctor said my body wasn't used to eating from not eating for so long.. so now it just wants to eat eat eat. :lol;
As for ham, I can do without period... don't really like it cause it's so salty... however, I'll have a slice maybe once a year.
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I guess I forgot to mention that I don't eat meat, and so when I posted the recipes with beans I failed to mention that since I"m not getting phosphorus from meat I can sub beans and not push over the hi phos. limits and still get some protein. Sorry for any confusion.
I was, however, at the hospital today doing baxter training (Switching from Fresenius) and the kitchen sent up a "renal" diet for my lunch. Consisted of Mac & Cheese, Tea, Apple Juice, Apple Sauce. I was quite suprised to see this so called "renal diet lunch". Can't wait to see what they'll send me tomorrow. :banghead;
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Mac and cheese? must have been a teaspoon full.
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this past year when my husband was in the hospital they would serve him mashed potatoes, french fries,gravies,tomatoes-even after filling out the meal menu,and talking to the hospital dietician about 4 different times. his neph even told him-just because they give it to you- doesn't mean you can eat it.
I guess I forgot to mention that I don't eat meat, and so when I posted the recipes with beans I failed to mention that since I"m not getting phosphorus from meat I can sub beans and not push over the hi phos. limits and still get some protein. Sorry for any confusion.
i guess I cant compute this-I thought it was potassium was why beans were especially bad........
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