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Title: No easy lapband surgery because of ESRD
Post by: devon on April 02, 2008, 11:34:07 AM
I met with the surgeon today who was going to perform the LapBand procedure. We had to call it off because of a bout of diverticulitis.  He said the anesthesiologist also said he didn't want to risk the surgery at the outpatient facility because of my bad kidneys.  So, when I finally do have to do the lapband it must be at a regular hospital.  That adds about $4000 to the tab that my insurance company (United Healthcare) won't pay!

I'm disappointed, of course, but I've always discovered that things work out for the best.

I'm tempted to go ahead with a transplant just to make sure United Healthcare has to pay out the kazoo for all the expenses!  That one, they can't avoid!

Tomorrow I meet with the Gastroenterologist to see what and why the diverticulitis isn't going away as quickly as it should.  That should be interesting.  Personally, I'm not convinced it's diverticulitis.  So, an expert needs to make a determination.

-Devon
Title: Re: No easy lapband surgery because of ESRD
Post by: Sluff on April 02, 2008, 02:05:13 PM
A little setback,  :(  but I'm glad you are not letting that get you down.   :grouphug;
Title: Re: No easy lapband surgery because of ESRD
Post by: Psim on April 02, 2008, 04:44:29 PM
Fingers and toes crossed for you Devon.
Title: Re: No easy lapband surgery because of ESRD
Post by: Bajanne on April 02, 2008, 04:57:39 PM
You just hang in there!  I am pleased with your spirit.  My caring thoughts and prayers are with you all the way.   :cuddle;
Title: Re: No easy lapband surgery because of ESRD
Post by: rose1999 on April 02, 2008, 11:37:48 PM
Thinking of you and wishing you the best  :grouphug;
Title: Re: No easy lapband surgery because of ESRD
Post by: Romona on April 04, 2008, 04:45:51 PM
 :grouphug;
Good Luck!
Title: Re: No easy lapband surgery because of ESRD
Post by: twirl on May 01, 2008, 04:25:45 PM
what happened?
Title: Re: No easy lapband surgery because of ESRD
Post by: devon on May 19, 2008, 08:18:31 AM
An update...

It's taken a while but I think I've gotten the Diverticulitis under control.  I had to restart the anti-biotics and take them longer.  The problem with ESRD is that the docs don't want to stress my kidneys with too much antibiotics so they err to the side of caution.  The result is that an infection is more difficult to eliminate.  It didn't get eliminated the in the first pass.

The results of the endoscopy were that it was certainly diverticulitis but nothing worse. Thank the gods. I don't need another scoping for 10 years. Thank them again! That's generally a good indicator.  Uncomfortable as it might seem, I really didn't have a too unpleasant experience.  The worst part was the prep for the scoping.  The scoping itself was pretty non-eventful. 

I hope everyone is doing well.  I am for the most part.  Going to get labs this week to see how the creatinine is doing.  Wish me luck.  Perhaps it will be under 5 again.

-Devon
Title: Re: No easy lapband surgery because of ESRD
Post by: Psim on May 19, 2008, 08:42:20 AM
Whew, that's over! I'm glad they finally got the diverticulitis under control (and gladder still that it's nothing worse).
Title: Re: No easy lapband surgery because of ESRD
Post by: kellyt on May 19, 2008, 09:08:38 AM
Sorry to hear that.  But you're right, things usually do work out for the best.  It's just hard to envision a good outcome sometimes.  :)

I know a little bit about diverticulitis (meaning I know it has something to do with the stomach  :) ).  What sort of problems do you have with diverticulitis?
Is it little "pockets" in the stomach or something like that?  I used to work for a general surgeon that would see patients with diverticulitis, but I can't remember exactly what it is or what the complications are.  Can they be lasered out?
Title: Re: No easy lapband surgery because of ESRD
Post by: rose1999 on May 19, 2008, 09:36:42 AM
Glad you're doing OK Devon, good luck with the labs.
Title: Re: No easy lapband surgery because of ESRD
Post by: devon on May 19, 2008, 01:52:09 PM
Defining Diverticulitis... a layperson's definition anyway...

it's an infection in pockets in the intestines. In my case, the lower intestine and colon. Diverticulosis is the formation of the pockets.  Digestive material gets caught in there and gets infected, causing Diveritulitis.

Treatment for the infection is antibiotics but eating lots of fiber helps to keep things flowing so it doesn't have a chance to get started.  I got some Benfiber and I've been very pleased with the product.  It will mix with just about everything; milk, juice, kool-aid, etc.  I even tried it in Chocolate milk.  It seemed to clot up with the chocolate milk however but not to a distastful amount. But with everything else, you wouldn't know you mixed it in.  I even put it in cereal.  I also got some high fiber cereal but that tastes like cardboard. I added dried blueberries to make it more tasty. Benefiber mixed with milk or water works for me most often.

Thanks for asking and thanks y'all for the kind thoughts.

-Devon
Title: Re: No easy lapband surgery because of ESRD
Post by: Laurie on May 19, 2008, 04:21:58 PM
I'm glad your doing better.  :grouphug;
Title: Re: No easy lapband surgery because of ESRD
Post by: okarol on May 19, 2008, 09:45:18 PM
I hope you get it under control and can be reconsidered for lap band. How long have you had ESRD? Won't Medicare kick in at some point so you can have them consider payment?
Title: Re: No easy lapband surgery because of ESRD
Post by: devon on May 20, 2008, 05:49:43 AM
Excellent question Okarol! 

I am pre-dialysis so I'm not yet eligible for Medicare.  As I read it, Medicare kicks in 30 months after beginning dialysis.  I figured as soon as that happens I will get it covered by Medicare and United Healthcare can kiss my  :sir ken;

The question is how much damage has been done waiting the 30 months (over two years) for a procedure my docs all agree is "medically necessary".  Once again insurance companies are practicing poor medicine!  But that's a rant for another day!

-Devon
Title: Re: No easy lapband surgery because of ESRD
Post by: okarol on May 20, 2008, 08:21:29 AM
I may be mistaken, but I am pretty sure Medicare eligibility begins when you are diagnosed with ESRD. Anyone know?
Title: Re: No easy lapband surgery because of ESRD
Post by: MIbarra on May 21, 2008, 08:53:17 PM
The social workers told me the same -- 30 months until you qualify for medicare. I think my husband even called medicare (or wherever you call for that) and they told him the same thing.

When I started dialysis I was so confused and out of it, I had nothing to do with insurance, billing, medicare, etc. I'm surprised I remembered what day it was since I had gotten so sick. So hubby had to take care of everything. Poor guy.
Title: Re: No easy lapband surgery because of ESRD
Post by: Rerun on May 21, 2008, 09:04:20 PM
You get medicare 90 DAYS after your first dialysis.  Then if you have another insurance that is primary for 30 months.  After 30 months Medicare takes over as primary insurance and then no doctor will see you or treat you.   "I'm sorry we don't accept Medicare Patients".
Title: Re: No easy lapband surgery because of ESRD
Post by: okarol on May 22, 2008, 07:58:25 AM
When Medicare Coverage Begins
When you first enroll in Medicare based on ESRD
(permanent kidney failure) and you are on dialysis
your Medicare coverage usually starts the fourth
month of dialysis treatments. For example, if you start
getting your hemodialysis treatments in July, your
Medicare coverage would start on October 1.

If you are covered by an employer group health plan,
your Medicare coverage will still start the fourth
month of dialysis treatments. Your employer group
health plan will pay first on your health care bills and
Medicare will pay second for a 30-month
coordination period.

from: www.medicare.gov/publications/pubs/pdf/esrdcoverage.pdf