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Dialysis Discussion => Dialysis: General Discussion => Topic started by: boxman55 on February 05, 2008, 01:48:00 PM
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I have to admit myself at St Marys-Ozaukee Hosp in Mequon to try and fix a badly infected 5th toe Osteolitus (sp?) I think is what they said. Will be there a few days they have to do IV antibiotics to try and save the toe. So I am off the e-mail for a while...Mark
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Take Care, Mark! We'll see ya in a couple of days! :2thumbsup;
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good luck see you soon :2thumbsup;
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:grouphug;
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Hope everything goes well and they get it all figured out with the least amount of problems possible.
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Mark, take care of yourself, and know you'll be missed. :bestwishes;
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take care,hope it's all good when you get out. :2thumbsup;
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:grouphug;
Are you going to the hospital in a "toe truck?".
Hope you heal fast! Good Luck! :cuddle;
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:grouphug; Hurry back.
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Your toe will surely be miss ;D just kidding. :cuddle; :grouphug; we love you and prayers for you.
love,
cris
EDITED:Fixed smiley tag error-kitkatz,moderator
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Good luck, Mark! I hope whatever they do is not gonna be painful at all!!
Read up on trivia, while you're there!!!
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Best wishes Box and I hope it is fixed quickly. I also hope you have a laptop going in there with you. Oh the boredom!
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good luck man- sorry you have to deal with this- hopefully it will not be too bad or too long.. :)
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Hang in there B-MAN hope all is OK :grouphug;
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The toe? The toe? Good luck buddy!
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Take care of them toes! Hope you are back in no time. Good Luck! :grouphug;
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Hoping the antibiotics work, good luck Box :thumbup;
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Boxman, hope all goes well and the anitbiodics work quickly. We will miss you so hurry back. Take care and remember we love you :grouphug;
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Good Luck Box :grouphug; we have your back!
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Positive thoughts and prayers are with you. :waving;
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:grouphug; :bestwishes;
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The Boxman has been boxed! :boxing; Now get better quick! :bandance;
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Thanks for letting us know Boxman - I look forward to your return! :waving;
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Get well and back on here soon :cuddle;
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We Love ya Box. :thumbup; take it easy.
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Good luck
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Ouch -- that sounds like it hurts! Get well soon!
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Best of luck Boxman
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Hope it all goes well and your toe is back in fighting form soon! :boxing; :boxing; :boxing;
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Best of luck to you Boxman.
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oh man, I hope the antibiotics work and the toe infection clears.
Will be thinking about you and keep you in my prayers.
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Hope you come home soon and heal fast :bestwishes;
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Good Luck Mark! Rob has had Osteomylitis twice in the same toe (big toe). You will be on IV antibiotics for about 6-8 weeks, after the first week in the hospital, they wil be administered during dialysis. You will need to stay off the toe for a good 2-3 weeks, so somone will have to drive you. The longer you stay off of it, the better chance you have of it healing and keeping that tootsie. Be careful of that toe going forward. You have a greater chance of getting osteomylitis back in that toe.
It's scary, but you can get through this!
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:grouphug; Take care, and hope all goes well!
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Maybe now if I go fishing while you are in the hospital there will be some fish for me to catch. >:D ;)
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Hope the meds resolve the infection. My prayers are with you.
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Good luck! You'll be fine. You need to get a laptop and take it with you... NEVER WEAKEN!! :boxing;
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Good Wishes and Good Luck, Boxman. Take good care of that toe.
Mimi
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Wondering how you're doing Boxman, hope to hear from you soon! :cuddle;
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Missing your posts, Box. Get well soon! :bestwishes;
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Missing you Box
I hope all is well :)
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Hoping and praying all is well Box, hurry back :thumbup;
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Hope all goes well for you.
Amanda
xxoo
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Quit chasing them nurses and get back soon! >:D
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Hey, Boxman! How are things going? Been thinking about and praying for you (and the toe). Take care and let us know.
Sluff -- how's the fishing going? You better catch all you can while Box is out for a while. :rofl;
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Oh man Box, you should see the sturgeon they are pulling in up here on Lake Winnebago 174lbs...get out of that dang hospital and catch some fish.
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Oh, you wicked, wicked boy, Sluff! Box will be out and going before you know it, and he's going to make you look like an amateur fisherman (one with a cane pole, a string, and a worm).
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Good Luck , Boxman, hope all is going well for you by this time. Take care! :cuddle;
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hey man- I miss your perspective- get well and get back here!!
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Oh man Box, you should see the sturgeon they are pulling in up here on Lake Winnebago 174lbs...get out of that dang hospital and catch some fish.
Box, hurry back so you can keep others from catching ones like this!
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I spoke to Boxman a few minutes ago. He is still hospitalized but hopes to be home by the weekend. He had a good laugh about the fishing.
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Thanks Okarol for calling him. I was hoping he was home, but will keep praying for him, too. :grouphug;
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Yea! Glad he's feeling good enough to laugh! That's so important these days! :clap;
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Praying that that toe is healing.
Glad to hear you'll be getting home soon.
Take care!
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I'm happy to hear you are doing well, Boxman. :waving;
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Glad those toes are getting well. Your in our hearts and prayers are going up.
:2thumbsup;
Love, Mimi
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Great to have some good news, thanks Karol for once again letting us all know what's happening. Hope you will soon be fishing Boxman! Sending much love :grouphug;
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Whoo hoo :bandance; :yahoo; :bandance;
I was getting nervous
Glad to hear you are doing well Box - hope to have ya back soon! :2thumbsup;
Thanks okarol :grouphug;
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Good news, thanks Karol for the update. Box, get out of the hospital soon :thumbup;
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See you back here soon Buddy. :thumbup;
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Glad to see Boxman is doing OK!
With everything going on here with
my Mom, I have not been on the 'puter
too much.
Sending you best wishes, BMan! I hope
you are back home to your sweet lil pupper
and fishing up a storm real soon!
Anne
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hope your feeling better and looking to see your posts soon.
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Hey Boxman,
Hope you get sprung soon! :bandance;
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Hope you are doing better Boxman, hurry back!
Thanks for letting us know Karol!
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Yay! The Box rocks!
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:cuddle; Boxman, I hope you are gaining your strength to catch those fish. Wishing you the best.
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I finely made it home. They had to remove the 5th toe on the right foot (the baby toe) because it was too infected to save. I was in there for over a week because my fever wouldn't brake and they also weren't sure they got all the damaged tissue. I am also scheduled for hyperbaric oxygen treatments 5 days a week for 90 min each time for at least 4-weeks to help the wound to heal. Thank you all for you kind words an good chuckles. I'm getting around at this time with a walker so by the time I get out to my fishing hole and turn around and head back in, it will be spring ;D Box
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:grouphug;
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Hope you heal quick boxman so you can start reeling them in ! :cuddle;
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Glad to see you home Boxman. We have missed you. :cuddle;
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Boxman, glad you're home. You've been missed around here! Sorry about the toe.
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I'm sorry you lost your toe Boxman and I hope you heal quickly.
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:welcomesign; back Box !
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Boxman, while I'm sorry you lost your little toe, I am glad it was not necessary to do more!
What is hyperbaric oxygen, and what does it do? I had not heard of that.
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Welcome back Box, I hope you heal quickly!
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Welcome back Boxman. So sorry to hear about your toe, but glad that you are doing better. You'll be back to fishing in no time!
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Boxman, while I'm sorry you lost your little toe, I am glad it was not necessary to do more!
What is hyperbaric oxygen, and what does it do? I had not heard of that.
the treatment is where I go into an enclosed tube and get bombarded with oxygen for 90 minutes. The oxygen improves the blood flow around the wound to speed up the healing. My new name should be "bubble boy"...Box
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Glad you're back, Boxman. :thumbup;
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Hey bubble boy glad you are back on-line. :)
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Welcome back! Yikes, 90 minutes / day in a hyperbaric chamber? Can you do anything while you're in there or do you have to just lay there and be bored?
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Well Diane the one thing you don't want to do is light up a cigar in there ;D just kidding around, but I guess it will be just sitting and watching TV for 90 minutes
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We told you to take the Toe truck to the hospital. Now you are bubbly boy! Good luck with all of this. I hope you feel better soon!
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glad your home, and up and around (even with a walker). i always enjoy your posts, keep 'em coming
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Didn't Michael Jackson use a hyperbaric chamber to maintain his youthful good looks?????????
Seriously, hope the treatments are going well and you are on the mend...great having you back on the board!
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I know of Footy Players here in OZ that have used them to speed up their recoveries to injuries.
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I hope you are recovering well. Can't be very easy for you.
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Hey Boxman, is this the same kind of chamber you are treated in?
Hyperbaric oxygen therapy (HBOT) is a means of providing additional oxygen to the tissues of your body. This increased oxygen delivery furthers your body's ability to kill germs and to increase healing. HBOT is a supplemental therapy to be used in addition to the current medical and surgical therapy you are receiving.
HBOT typically is used to complement treatments of medical problems such as bone infections, complication of radiotherapy, and certain chronic, non-healing wounds. On an emergency basis, the chamber also is used to treat problems such as carbon monoxide poisoning and the decompression sickness.
Description of the chamber -- The hyper/hypobaric triplelock chamber capable of being pressurized to 165 feet below sea level or "flown" to 100,000 feet above sea level.
The chamber accomodates up to 16 patients at one time, eight in the treatment lock and eight in the research lock. Chamber operations are monitored by advanced computer systems, and medical monitoring systems are in place with equipment for managing medical emergencies inside the chamber.
The clinical or treatment lock is equipped with a patient entertainment system, which includes a large-screen TV and an AM/FM/compact-disc/cassette stereo. Patients are provided with individual headsets so that they may choose their mode of entertainment. There is also a telephone inside the chamber for making or receiving calls. Patient comfort is controlled by a heat exchanger, which can either cool or heat the interior of the lock.
The research lock is set up for environmental and altitude research, such as studying the effects of high altitude and low temperature on mountain climbers or skiers. It can be outfitted with various monitoring devices and exercise equipment. A specially designed environmental control system external to the chamber adjusts and maintains the equipment at temperature settings between 0 and 120 degrees Fahrenheit.
The entry lock is common to both the treatment and research locks, and is equipped with a toilet, sink and shower for long-term projects. The chamber complex is 9 feet in diameter and 40 feet long ( a typical clinical chamber is about 7 feet by 18 feet), and weighs 68,000 pounds.
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Okarol, my experience was not the room you described. If it was I might still be getting the treatment. What I went into was a cigar shaped clear plastic tube no bigger then a casket with metal sub marine like hatches on each end. You had to lay on your back the whole time and only had enough room to turn side to side or raise your head up 10-12 degrees before you touched the top of the tube. For the first 25 minutes you simulated going to 60 feet below sea level. You where constantly swallowing to pop your ears. The air pressure noise was also somewhat loud. Sounded like running water. Once I reached the 60 feet below (simulated) I dosed off for a little bit, but when I woke up I started breathing fast, was very warm, and worst of all I felt trapped. I had this feeling of wanted to get out so bad that I started losing it. I got the tech's attention and begged her to let me out. You had to wait 25 minutes in there while they decompressed you. I thought I was going to die, it was the longest 25 minutes of my life. When I finally got out my BP was 196. I never thought I was claustrophobic but that freaked me out. They wanted me to try again with some relaxation pills but I said "no way" I couldn't go through it again if I had to get out. Normal treatment time is 2 hours from start to finish. Not for me...Boxman
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Boxman that sounds scary for you. I do not think I could do it either.
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Ugh, that sounds awful. And two hours, I don't think so! I'm with you, Boxman, no way! Can you use a Wound-Vac (or something else) instead?
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I don't blame you.. hang tough Buddy. :grouphug;
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Oh, my goodness, Box! That sounds like pure torture. I couldn't have done it the first time -- for any amount of time.
What are you going to do now to help the foot heal? Wound vacs are not as bad as they sound, and they help the incision heal pretty quickly.
I'm glad you're back on the boards. Missed you and your thoughts (the fish also said to tell you that Sluff is not a good substitute for you...they laughed their gills off at Sluff the Fisherman :rofl;)
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I wouldn't be able to handle that either. Too claustrophobic for me. Are things getting better anyway?
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Boxman, what a horrible experience. I would have been freaking out, too. I hope you are healing and doing better. We missed you while you were gone. :grouphug;
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Hey thanks all, I will discuss the wound vac with my Doc. not sure what that is. With hardly any feeling in the feet it is a struggle to get things to heal. I am trying to stay off it as much as possible and just hope and pray it doesn't get worse only better.. Thanks again, you guys are all great...Boxman
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I got to hand it to you Box, I couldn't have done that either. I hope and pray your feet heal :thumbup;
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:o Oh Boxman that really does sound like torture. I have only heard of the larger rooms that you can move around in, such as Okarol described.
I would not have lasted five minutes. Someone would be on the receiving end of this... :boxing; :boxing;
I hope they can find a better solution and it continues to heal. You have enough to deal with!! :cuddle;
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:cuddle; God, Boxman, I couldn't do it. Do they any other options for you. Take care and keep us posted.
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It seems like you should be able to find a different place for treatment. Looks like you're a little early for this:
Aurora St. Luke's Medical Center is building a $7 million hyperbaric chamber, which when finished will be the largest rectangular hyperbaric chamber in the nation.
The project will allow the Milwaukee hospital to increase its treatment capacity for hyperbaric oxygen therapy from the current eight patients at a time to 24.
The chamber will be operable in May 2008.
http://milwaukee.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/stories/2007/09/24/story7.html
Here are some other centers, perhaps they could suggest a better solution for you:
Center for Comprehensive Wound Care and Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy
Hyperbaric and Wound Care Associates
2901 West Kinnickinnic River Parkway
Suite 311
Milwaukee, WI 53215
PHONE (414)385-8723
FAX (414)385-8721
EMAIL: mverhage@hwca-inc.com
St. Luke's Medical Center (multiplace)
2900 West Oklahoma Avenue
Milwaukee, WI 53215
PHONE (414) 649-6577
FAX (414) 649-5940
St. Luke's South Shore
5900 West Ramsy Drive
Cudahy, WI 53110
PHONE (414)489-4058
FAX (414)489-4710
West Allis Memorial Hospital
8901 West Lincoln Avenue
West Allis, WI 53227
PHONE (414)328-8404
FAX (414)328-8452
Aurora Medical Center - Hartford
1032 East Sumner Street
Hartford, WI 53027
PHONE (262)670-7213
FAX (262)670-7269
Aurora Medical Center - Kenosha
10400 75th Street
Kenosha, WI
PHONE (262)948-6834
FAX (262)948-7329
this info from http://www.hyperbaricwoundcare.com/index.cfm?categoryID=319F8647-C09F-1D6F-F9CEC95ED64F86B3
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thanks, againn Okarol, I feel I might be able to do it if it was more of a room setting and not a single person tube. I will discuss with my Doctors....Box
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Yikes, what an awful treatment! Sorry you had to go through that, Boxman.
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I hate hearing how medical procedures turn out to be torture. Glad to hear you're out of that chamber. :grouphug;
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Sorry you had to go through that Box
I have to say they would have never gotten me in the first place I am absolutely claustrophobic! They wanted to give you "relaxation pills" I wonder what was in these "relaxation pills" lol.....medical service providers crack me up sometimes.
Good luck Box I hope you heal quickly. :bestwishes;
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well today I had a check of the foot and was told by the surgeon that now the 4th toe is starting to go south he scheduled me to have my three lower veins in my leg looked at and place stints in them if needed. This will be next Thursday. If stints are placed it will help the blood flow better down to the foot and help the healing....It is hard not to have these depressing feelings, it is tough to stay positive...Boxman
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:cuddle; Boxman, sending you lots of love!
Did you ever find out if they have one of those larger room units? It would help with the healing.
Hang in there my friend!!
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Hang in there, Box! We're all pulling for you. :grouphug;
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Boxman, I'm thinking about you and hope the healing starts soon. You have been through a lot. Take Care. :grouphug;
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Sorry about the troubles you are having. Hope it gets worked out soon. :grouphug;
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Sorry to hear about your toe. Diabetes is a really hard road, but at least you have some good company on it. I hope the blood flow to your foot is all going well and you get a rest from these problems for a good long while.
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Hope things improve for you.
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How awful! :cuddle; :cuddle; :cuddle;
It's very disenheartening to have news like that. To have something drag on and on.
I so hpoe the stents work, and they can get the bloood cicrulating down into your foot again.
Go ahead and be depressed, get angry, then bounce back, sometimes we just need some
time to vent, to get just feel sorry for ourselves. Heaven knows, you sure do deserve a pity
party right now!
How about a drink on me? :beer1; :beer1;
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Hey Boxman I hope you are well enough to come to lunch next Thursday in Milwaukee!
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It's not much help but I'm thinking of you and sending positive thoughts. Hope all goes well. :cuddle;
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Box, I hope they can do something to save your toes - good luck :thumbup;
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:cuddle; Thinking of you Boxman :cuddle;
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Boxman sorry for what's happening to you. That oxygen tube thing sounds like torture. It must have felt like being in a coffin!
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Hey Boxman I hope you are well enough to come to lunch next Thursday in Milwaukee!
Kit I pm'd Sluff to let him know that my stent surgery is on that Thursday. But if you guys want to come visit me in bed that could be fun. I will be at Mount Sinai on 12th and State right downtown my surgery is at 6am then I have to lay around all afternoon...Box
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I told Sluff we be there. Hope all goes well in the a.m.
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I guess I better bring my silk jammies...Boxman
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I guess I better bring my silk jammies...Boxman
We are going to kidnap Boxman and take him to the safe house, force him to drink out of those huge safe house mugs. hehe :rofl;
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If Boxman is going to be parading around in silk jammies, all the ladies here might want to come and take a look. (How far is it from the coast of NC to Milwaukee, anyway?)
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I guess I better bring my silk jammies...Boxman
Don't forget the :pics; :)
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Oh Box I am so sorry to hear about the toes. Maybe the IHD visitors will make you feel better. Good
luck with the stents.
Love, Mimi
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Good Luck Boxman. :grouphug;
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I will have the camera. :rofl;
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good luck boxman
:cuddle;
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Wishing you All the Best Boxman :cuddle;
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well today I had a check of the foot and was told by the surgeon that now the 4th toe is starting to go south he scheduled me to have my three lower veins in my leg looked at and place stints in them if needed. This will be next Thursday. If stints are placed it will help the blood flow better down to the foot and help the healing....It is hard not to have these depressing feelings, it is tough to stay positive...Boxman
I am very sorry to hear that Box I hope that things get better.
CW
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I hope you guys have fun - I wanna see Boxman's jammies! :pics;
Hey Boxman, maybe you saw this article but I came across it again today and thought of you:
http://ihatedialysis.com/forum/index.php?topic=2996.0
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Thanks for the info Okarol I will show it to my Doctors....Boxman
And as far as the jammies, if they are not tied in the back it can get pretty scary :o
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So sorry you're having all these troubles, Box...at least you'll have good company to help you recover on Thursday!
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Thanks for the info Okarol I will show it to my Doctors....Boxman
And as far as the jammies, if they are not tied in the back it can get pretty scary :o
Wow ... Thanks for the visual Box! :rofl;
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Wow, Boxman, I hope and pray things improve soon for you.
I could not have stood that treatment either.
I hope the stents might be hepful in improving blood flow.
Thoughts are with you.
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Boxman, I'm going to think about you all week and hope that Thursday goes really good for you. I'll also be thinking about you in silk jammies with the back untied :rofl; !
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Get well soon :waving;
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Boxman, I'm going to think about you all week and hope that Thursday goes really good for you. I'll also be thinking about you in silk jammies with the back untied :rofl; !
And to think I'll get the pictures.... :rofl;
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And to think I'll get the pictures.... :rofl;
I'm hoping we'll all get the pictures!! :rofl;
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Boxman, I'm going to think about you all week and hope that Thursday goes really good for you. I'll also be thinking about you in silk jammies with the back untied :rofl; !
And to think I'll get the pictures.... :rofl;
Sluff -- how much are you charging for re-prints? Will you charge any extra for 11x14's? (You could make some serious beer money off this adventure :rofl;). Love ya, Box! You know I'm teasing!
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Given how much hospital admission costs - why don't they give us silk jammies when we check in?
Hope you feel better soon, boxman!
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Given how much hospital admission costs - why don't they give us silk jammies when we check in?
Hope you feel better soon, boxman!
Marvin wears an XL -- I'd like to request red for him because he looks sexy in red..... :bandance;. (He would blush -- big time -- if he knew I told that!)
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I will have my camera up and ready for the silk pjs Boxman!
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I just got a new wallet today that has extra-heavy duty places for photos...I need several of Box in order to fill it!! :2thumbsup;
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Hi Boxman,
Sending positive thoughts your way for Thursday. We all care about you.
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Just checkin in on ya Box take care! :bestwishes;
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Boxman, you are in my prayers as always.
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I hope things go well for you Thursday. It must be so hard for you, but hang in there and pull through it.
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well today I had a check of the foot and was told by the surgeon that now the 4th toe is starting to go south he scheduled me to have my three lower veins in my leg looked at and place stints in them if needed. This will be next Thursday. If stints are placed it will help the blood flow better down to the foot and help the healing....It is hard not to have these depressing feelings, it is tough to stay positive...Boxman
Best wishes Boxman. I hope all goes well.
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Thinkin of ya Boxman thinkin only good thoughts for you (except when I think about the pj's ;)) :grouphug; :cuddle; :grouphug;
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Good Luck Box see ya Thursday.
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Good Luck Boxman, stay positive. You'll be in my thoughts tomorrow :beer1;
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Boxman -- You're in our thoughts and prayers. Marvin and I will think about you tomorrow and wait to hear that everything's okay. You're a really unique guy, and there are lots of people here who love you and are pulling for you.
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Boxman -- You're in our thoughts and prayers. Marvin and I will think about you tomorrow and wait to hear that everything's okay. You're a really unique guy, and there are lots of people here who love you and are pulling for you.
Thanks petey, It sure helps when you know people are routing for you. Marvin, I am sure is very proud of you for how you handle yourself and I am thankful for you and all the other well wishers on this site. Little things mean a lot. Thanks again...Boxman
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Will be thinking about you tomorrow (which is closer for me than you) and hoping for a good result - of course mainly I'll be thinking about you in the silk PJS :2thumbsup; Serioulsy - all the very bext. :cuddle;
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Lots of good thoughts and well-wishes for tomorrow!
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Have a quick day of it and hurry back and tell us all is ok! :grouphug;
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:cuddle; Love you Boxman, hope all goes well!
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Good luck to you today Box, I hope all goes well :grouphug;
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:cuddle; I'll be thinking of you today boxman. Hope everything goes well.
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Thinking of you!
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Let us know how it goes....and don't forget the pictures!!! :2thumbsup;
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Gosh, darnit! I want to hear from Box. I hope everything went well -- and I also hope the silk jammies were XXX-Small -- >:D.
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Thinking of you Boxman :cuddle;
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Sluff and/or Kit --
It's time you guys were back to a computer -- tell us about Boxman. How did it go? How was he doing?
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Boxman, been thinking of you all day. So glad Kit and Sluff got to visit with you. I'll keep saying prayers. You are missed. :cuddle;
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Hoping you feel better soon & hurry back :thumbup;
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Talking with Boxman I guess they will have to remove the small toe also but the procedure he is in the hospital for now was a success. They opened up the vein that feeds the three lower veins and were able to open 2 of the 3 veins in the lower leg which made an immediate improvement in blood flow to his foot. So bottom line is he may lose another toe but he saves the foot.
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Darn. So sorry it looks like he'll lose the toe. At least he'll get to save the foot though. Still thinking of ya, Box!
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:cuddle; I'm so sorry about your toe Boxman, glad the vein procedure will save you foot. Take care and I'll be thinking of you.
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Mixed blessings, Boxman!
I'm glad they can save the foot at least. Hang in there, we miss ya!!!
:beer1; :beer1; :cuddle;
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I just found a computer here in the hospital it is 11:30 at nite on Thursday and I just got unstrapped from my bed after being on my back for 15-1/2 hours having surgery and waiting for the incision site into the artery to clot properly. I was on the surgery table at 7:30 am after arriving at 5:30am Jeffery gave me a ride. The procedure lasted 1-1/2 hours. They inserted a cath in my left groin artery and attempted to open up the one artery that runs from your groin to your knee in the right leg. They found that that vein was 99% blocked and inserted a stint to successfully open it back up. They did the same to one of the lower (3) arteries that run from the knee to the foot. The other lower artery was 100% blocked and they could not push thru with a stint. That one will be revisited later. The third one they got partially open so know I have adequate blood flow to my foot. It will not save the fourth toe ( which will be removed Monday) But, the doctors feel it will save the other 3 toes along with the foot. Thank God. The other leg shows blockage also and we will have surgery on that down the road. Thats it I will be at Columbia -Ozaukee Monday till probably wed or thurs next week. Man I just love these hospital stays...Mark
Hi all I am home it is 4:30pm Friday. I sent the above e-mail out last nite to family. It was really nice to meet Kitkatz and see Sluff again. We had a nice visit even though I had to stay flat in bed. So prancing around in the jammies was out of the question. I will be back at the hospital Monday till Wed or Thursday for the 4th toe removal. My life is just full of excitement....Boxman
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Oh, Boxman! It was so good to read your post. I'm sorry for the loss of another toe, but, hey, it's good news about the remaining toes and foot. It's also good that you get a little break over the week-end. Go back and read the posts here, Box; there are lots of people who were thinking about, worrying about, and praying for you. Certainly that shows you how much you are loved. Next week, I think we'll all be doing the same for you.
Okay, so you didn't parade around in the silk jammies...I'll forgive you this time (though I was mighty disappointed). But....Rose and I do expect a rain check! :rofl;
Take care of yourself. Rest over the week-end. You're a real trooper! Hang in there!
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Good to hear from you Boxman. Good luck on Monday. :grouphug;
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Boxman, it was good to read your post. I am sorry you have had to deal with so much, but am thankful for what the doctors can do. Keep fighting :boxing; :boxing;
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Good to hear from you Boxman! Good to hear they are able to save some of your flangies (sp? ) and it sounds like you are in good spirits and back home. Have a restful weekend, and be well. :grouphug;
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Oh man, Boxman!!
What a lot of opening to do. I'm glad they're able to save the foot by doing all that though.
And, at least you get a (small) break by not having the toe taken til Monday. Iti's tiring being
in the hospital, isn't it? Between the nurse visiits and the procedures and the after effects.
NOT fuN!!!
But hey...you gotta get your jollies somehow, I suppose!!! :rofl; :rofl;
I'll be thinking of you Monday.
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Hey Boxman - sending you some HUGS :cuddle;
Hope you're not in pain, and you have a stress free weekend.
Take care!
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Box, so sorry you're having to go through all this! Rest all you can this weekend, because as we all know, you certainly don't get to rest in the hospital! (What's with getting you out of bed to be weighed at 3:00 am??). We'll all be thinking about you next week. Keep us updated, if possible, and give us a full report when you're home!
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:cuddle; Glad you are home. Sounds like they might finally have it under control. Sending {{{Hugs}}} for monday. :grouphug;
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Sorry about your toe Box. It's so good they can go in there and open up and clean the veins and arteries out and
put in stents. I have a stent in my heart and I will soon have to have both of my legs cleaned out. They are
not totally blocked yet, but they will be eventually. Will be thinking of you and saying a prayer Monday. Take care.
:cuddle;
Love Mimi
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So prancing around in the jammies was out of the question.
As you wore the boa we will let you off for now, but it's really not fair to get us ladies all excited and then not deliver :rofl;.
Seriously, I'm sorry to hear about the toe and I hope they will soon do that op and you can start to recuperate. You've been through a lot but we are all doing our best to send positive thoughts and prayers your way. Hope you have a pain free weekend and good luck for next week :cuddle;
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Hey Box,
Sorry to hear that there will be another casualty to the circulation issue >:( :( But we are all pulling for ya big guy - all the best to you! keep us informed when you can. Best wishes and take care of yourself.
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Hi all, Just a reminder that I will be at Columbia St Marys-Ozaukee in Mequon, WI starting at 7:30am Monday morning the 10th surgery is set for 9am. and will be there up and till late Weds afternoon the 12th or maybe even till Thursday not sure yet.. No computer access while I am there. More surgery on the foot. Wish me luck. Most people travel to warm places during late winter to all inclusive resorts, me, I go to all inclusive hospitals. ;D... Boxman
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I hope all goes well boxman. I guess one good thing... you're saving on your utility bill...? ::)
Come back as soon as you can! :cuddle;
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Wishing you the best outcome. Be well.
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boxman, I'll be thinking and praying for you. Take Care. :cuddle;
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wishing you all the very best :grouphug;
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Good Luck Boxman. :grouphug;
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I'm soerry you are going through so much Boxman.
I'm wishing you well.
I pray for a speedy recovery for you and success with these stents
and the fourth blockage to be dealt with yet.
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It is almost midnight and I have to be up by 6am can't sleep I guess I am a little anxious....Boxman
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No Worries Box, you have a lot of people wishing you well and praying for your safe return to good health - including me. Be well :cuddle;
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It is almost midnight and I have to be up by 6am can't sleep I guess I am a little anxious....Boxman
I'm with ya I got to be up at 5am and I can't sleep either. I took some sleeping pills so I hope to get tired and go back to bed soon, it's just after midnight.
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Hope you do well and get home fast!
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Boxman, just to let you know I've been thinking of you! I know you won't get this til you get home again, but hang in there, we're thinking of you!
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Hope all is well with you boxman. :grouphug;
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Boxman should have had his surgery yesterday (Mon.), and I'm wondering how he's doing. I hope it went well and he's not in a lot of pain. I can't wait until he gets home and tells us he's okay.
Thinking about you, Box, and remembering you in prayer. We miss you around here!
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I left a voicemail for him just now. Hopefully he will feel up to returning my call.
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:cuddle; Boxman, Just wanted to let you know that your in my thoughts. Your my triva buddy. Let us know how you are.
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Boxman, sending good wishes and hoping things went well. Hopefully, Sluff will post soon and give us an update. :grouphug;
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I just talked with Boxman and he is home. He had to try the hyperbolic chamber again which he wasn't very excited about but he got through it. He has a bit more pain because he obviously has more blood flow to the foot. So he has a positive attitude and he is working on being able to walk to the lake to go fishing.
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My Dearest Box,
Need your help!!! But first, hope you are going pretty good with the recent foot problem. You see, I think Nanay is getting the same problem with her feet. Please let me know, what kind of doctor treated you, how did they came to know about the vein blockage? Your information will be of tremendous help to us. Hope you're up and geared for fishing. Your always in my prayers.
love,
cris
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hope to see you soon Boxman- I hope all is healing well and your doing okay :)
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:welcomesign; home Box. Hope things are going good for you and the stents worked.
Love, Mimi
EDITED: Fixed welcome sign icon error - Sluff/Admin
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Hi Boxman, I know the pain is a good sign, but I hope it eases up for you soon and you can walk to that lake :). Sending prayers and good wishes :grouphug;
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Hey, Box! Heard you were home. Hope you're starting to get better. Let us hear from you soon (after you catch a whole mess of fish).
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:waving; Hey Box. I am glad you are home! :cuddle;
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My surgery on Monday was a success if you can call losing another toe a party. I also had stints put in my right leg to open up the arteries and increase the blood flow to the foot last Thursday and the first toe removed on the 26th of Feb. The Doctors said that all looks promising but still want me to try the Hyperbolic chamber again. Because that will really help the healing process. As you all know I tried the coffin style chamber and freaked out to the point that I will not go back in that style chamber. They also have an 8 man chamber at a differant hospital which I was asked to try today. My experience turned sour towards the end of the treatment. I started to hyper ventilate and got very anxious with a very strong urge to get out of there, which of course you couldn't. I spoke with the Doctor along with a few friends and they no doubt are telling me I gotta suck it up and go back in or the chance of losing the foot increases. It is 8pm Tuesday nite and I have additional sedation pills in hand prescribed by the Doc for tomorrow, and another appointment for 8am tommorrow morning to go back in. I haven't quite made my mind up to try again and probably won't till morning But, I can't let this beat me even though it has come close lately. Stay tuned...Mark
PS there is a possibility that I will be admitted for 2 weeks to reduce all the travel back and forth, between dialysis and chamber treatments. Will know that today
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Good Luck Buddy. :grouphug;
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My Dearest Box,
Need your help!!! But first, hope you are going pretty good with the recent foot problem. You see, I think Nanay is getting the same problem with her feet. Please let me know, what kind of doctor treated you, how did they came to know about the vein blockage? Your information will be of tremendous help to us. Hope you're up and geared for fishing. Your always in my prayers.
love,
cris
Chris they did what they call angiplasty where they insert dye then watch it travel through your leg veins and show up any narrow arteries. Then insert stints to open them back up. You are a wake during it but I did stay overnite and went home the next day...Box
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Hi Boxman, glad you are home. Have you decided about the hyperbolic chamber? Just wanted you to know I'm thinking of you. Good Luck and take care. :cuddle;
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Hey Boxman, Good to hear from you. You certainly have a lot to deal with right now. The hyperbolic chamber would be hard to deal with--take anything they can give you to help with the anxiety. I'll be thinking of you :cuddle;
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I guess we wont know til later today if you were able to do the hyperbaric chamber or not,
but my best wishes are with you.
:bestwishes; :bestwishes; :bestwishes; :bestwishes;
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I get pretty claustrophobic so I think I can imagine i would be anxious about the chamber. Take all the drugs they offer!! :lol;
Glad to hear from you Boxman, I missed you on trivia! Hope things improve soon. :cuddle;
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I know that closed in feeling...I freaked in an MRI machine once. I now have a lovely bottle of Valium to help me through future scans.
Hang tough Boxman and know that we are all here pulling for you.
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Hey boxman, sorry just catching up on this thread now.
Hopes things get better soon.
Amanda
xxoo
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Sorry, I just caught up on this thread! You're in my thoughts and prayers boxman! :cuddle;
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Sorry to hear of this tough road you face, wishing you the best.
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Box, thanks so much for the information. I really admire your courage and zest. You are really someone special with or without toes. :cuddle; You bet, you are always in my prayers. Is your doctor foot a vascular surgeon or somehing else?
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Sending my best thoughts and wishes Boxman. :bestwishes; :bestwishes; :bestwishes;
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Ya know Box..maybe now I can keep up with ya.... :bow;
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Ya know Box..maybe now I can keep up with ya.... :bow;
No way, Sluff -- remember, we all saw that picture of BOX in the bed wearing a boa! :rofl; You'd have to show us more than you've been showing us if you want to top that!! :rofl; :rofl; :rofl;
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Box, I'm sorry I missed the last couple of days of this...I spaced, I guess.
Anyway, I hope it went well today and that your drugs helped with the chamber, if you decided to do it. Take care and keep updating us! :cuddle;
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Hey Boxman my friend! Good to see you the other day and say hello. It sounds like you are coming along in the treatment plans.
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Box I am glad to hear from you am I am sad you for your pain :( Please take care and keep your spirits up !!
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Has anybody heard from Boxman in the last day or two? Just wondering how he's doing and if he had to stay!
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Hi all, by know you all must be sick of hearing about my medical problems, but here is an update anyway. My stay at St Luke's lasted 11 days. During that time I would receive Hyperbolic oxygen treatment everyday along with my dialysis on M-W-F.
The oxygen treatment was proven to be working at about 98% which is pretty good. We where shooting for not having to deprive the wound area where the two toes where removed, which would of opened it up all over again. So the good news is it is healing sufficiently and it did not have to be done. Which allowed
me to come home tonight. I will have to go as an out patient for the next two weeks to St Luke's to continue the oxygen treatment.
It is good to be home...Thank you all for you thoughts, prayers, cards, magazines, movies, food, phone calls and best wishes. And a very special thanks to Jeff for all the rides and help, Love you, man
Hi all IHD fellows, the above was an e-mail I sent out to family and friends it is good to be back home. now I have to catch up on things...Box
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I'm glad you're at home! enjoy your bed!
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Hey Box just tried calling your cell until I seen you were on line. :yahoo; Good to see you back.
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good to have you home,you've been missed,hope things start to look up :thumbup;
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:grouphug; Keep healing box, glad you are home!
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We, your IHD family, will never get sick of hearing about your medical problems, we just wish you didn't have them. Take care and heal soon :grouphug;
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We, your IHD family, will never get sick of hearing about your medical problems, we just wish you didn't have them. Take care and heal soon :grouphug;
I'm with Rose -- and we missed you. Rest. Get better.
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Missed ya Box, glad you are back and doing well :thumbup;
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:cuddle; Boxman, you rest and get your strength back. We'll be here waiting.
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Welcome back and take it slow.
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Thank you all, you know that the simple pleasures are the best. It felt so relaxing to wake up this morning in my home, and make my coffee. It never tasted better...Boxman
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I agree, the simple pleasures are the best!
Home from the hospital is FANTASTIC! :thumbup;
annabanana
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Glad it went well boxman and your home. Take Care :big hug:
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We don't get sick of hearing of other's medical problems, we care and we KNOW what you go through. I am so happy for you that you're home now! I agree, simple pleasures ARE the best, aren't they?
:big hug: :big hug: :big hug:
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Glad to hear only a few more weeks of treatment then off to the fishing pond. :thumbup;
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Glad to hear from you .... take care!
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Welcome home! I was always glad to arrive home out of the hospital. Clean sheets, my own things, and time to finally sleep. Hospitals are noisy places aren't they?
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I'm glad to hear you are home. Take care.
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Glad you are home at last.
Take care and God bless!
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Welcome home! I was always glad to arrive home out of the hospital. Clean sheets, my own things, and time to finally sleep. Hospitals are noisy places aren't they?
that is the truth Kit, I had a older gentleman in the room across the hall and he wasn't suppose to get out of bed. But every nite at like 2 or 3 or 4am he would get out and set his bed alarm off. It drove me crazy. One nite the nurse comes out in the hall and I could hear her say "he's walking around pooping every where". at least that nite I had a big laugh...Boxman
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I swear Kaiser has cart races up and down the hallways every night. I would get up and close the door, then someone would bounce into the room slamming to door open, do their thing,t hen forget to close the door. Up I would get again. After awhile I was going to get that big stick out and hit the next person that blew through the door. :Kit n Stik;
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Box glad your back :cuddle;
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Nurses came be every 2 hrs. Other patients cough, scream, and etc., :puke;
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OMG I hate being in the hospital! It's like the night nurses get mad that they have to be up so they think everyone else should be too! I can never get any sleep in there. And the bed, that is the most uncomfortable! Noisy and uncomfortable. I agree, hospitals are no place to be!
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Well here is an update on my foot. I have had (21) hyperbaric treatments so far and will have (5) more. Next Thursday will be my last. The treatments have helped but at the rate it is going I would need about 3-4 more months of this type of treatment. So, they are going to try a wound vac starting next thursday. They will debride the wound then attach the vac. I will wear it 24 hours a day for about a month. They hope that will be a faster way of healing the wound. Me too. See below for a breif explanation of the wound vac...Mark
The therapy is both a technique and a device. It works to close a wound by gently and continuously suctioning fluid from it and applying a fresh dressing into it. Not only does this decrease the risk of infection, it stimulates the growth of new skin cells. "The beauty of VAC therapy is that it’s portable and it works," said Lyle Vasher, DPM. "I’ve been able to put tissue over bone with this. That’s unbelievable." Vasher is one of four podiatrists with Englewood Community Hospital’s Wound Management Program, whose staff includes two MDs specializing in peripheral vascular disease. Each month, the staff treats an average of 55 patients, many of whom have open wounds resistant to treatment. They’re not alone.
Nationwide, non-healing wounds present an enormous, ongoing challenge to medical professionals. In fact, each year in the U.S., more than 2.8 million people are treated for wounds that won’t completely heal. Often, these wounds are the result of trauma, vascular disease, diabetes and other circulatory conditions. Treatment can be costly, involving lengthy hospital stays, specialized home care and expensive supplies. "In the past, conventional treatments to control drainage and fight infection required (changing the wound dressing) once or twice daily, every day," said Ann Bartucci, RN, and Clinical Manager for the Wound Management Program at Englewood Community Hospital. "That can be time-consuming and uncomfortable."
For some patients, that scenario is starting to change. Although the VAC system was developed several years ago, its use was confined primarily to major medical and plastic surgery centers until recently. Now that the VAC system has been cleared by the FDA for clinical use, studies suggest that it can lower the cost of treating wounds while improving a patient’s quality of life. Rather than constantly changing moist dressings, such as saline wet-to-moist gauze dressings or antibiotic dressings, the VAC system uses negative pressure, or suction, to enhance healing. "It is a whole different approach," explained Dr. Vasher. "There’s a dressing and a tube connected to the dressing that provides gentle, even suction by way of a battery-powered pump."
Depending on the individual, patients may either wear the pump in a portable mini-pack or use a larger, stationary unit. The obvious advantage of the portable system is that it provides continual wound therapy without interfering with a patient’s daily activities. "We generally see our wound care patients once a week to (clean) the wound, make sure it’s healing correctly, and reapply the dressing to the wound to continue the treatment process," said Dr. Vasher. Although VAC therapy patients still come in for weekly treatment, there are fewer uncomfortable dressing changes during the week. "Usually, we’ll have a home health care nurse see the patient twice a week, for a total of three dressing changes per week," said Bartucci, noting that all of the Wound Care Program’s physicians and home health nurses have been specially VAC-trained by the manufacturer. Further, insurance typically covers the costs associated with the VAC system, including supplies and equipment lease. The patient’s part? Remembering to recharge the battery at night. "Also, they have to make the commitment to have (the VAC) with them at all times, which means wearing the pump in a fanny pack or over their shoulder," said Bartucci. "For some, it’s a hassle. But for most patients, it’s not a problem, sort of like remembering your purse."
Bartucci adds that while VAC therapy is not a miracle cure, it has yielded excellent results thus far. "Of the new wound care therapies, this is the best that we’ve had," she said. I have never had the problem of forgetting my purse ;D ....Boxman
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The wound vac was used on Victor's leg when he had his amputation debrided. He describes the wound vac as twelve weeks of hell. I know it got the wound healing faster and it looked much better, but it hurt to have the dressing changed. Take plenty of pain meds when they change your wound vac. But then you are probably Superman to all of this by now! :yahoo;
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Box,
Marvin's had a wound vac twice -- once about a year and a half ago (vein taken out of his thigh to create and strengthen a vein in his arm that made a "magic fistula" -- the thigh got infected, and he had a time with it). He kept that wound vac for about two months. Then, he had another wound vac in Jan. for about a month (abdominal wound -- hematoma had to be removed).
The wound vacs are not bad at all. I got pretty good at changing the "sponge" that fits in the wound. The home health nurse only came two-three times a week, and I changed it every day when she didn't come. Some days, she came, and I still changed it. It's like carrying around a purse with you, and it's not cumbersome at all. Also, the wound vac greatly reduces the healing time. We really like the wound vac over "packing" an open wound.
Let me know if I can help with any questions.
--petey
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well between kitkatz and petey the jury is still out for me on this thing. Petey sounds like you have a lot of experience with this vac. I will appreiciate the input. Thanks...Boxman
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I have experience with the wound vac. Personally I think it is a lifesaver! Making something that would have taken months to heal completely over in about a month. I had a skin infection which required surgery. I had an open wound that was about 6 inches across and 3 inches deep. The dressing was changed every couple of days at first and when the nurse measured the wound it was just amazing at the progress of healing. I admit that it is a little inconvenient to carry it every place that you go and sometimes I found it embarrassing. It sounded like a little pig grunting and the machine would have little episodes when things were very quite. I had a lot of draining from this wound and without the vac it would have been worse because of changing bandages frequently. All in all I highly recommend use of the wound vac.
Earlinda
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Box -- Marvin said the changes for the wound vac are uncomfortable when the sponge is pulled out of the wound. He said his healing time was decreased by about half by using the wound vac, and that seemed to make it worth it. But, you have to remember that Marvin's wound vacs were in places on the body that have a little more tissue and "fat" (the thigh and then the stomach), so I image it would be different -- and more painful -- in other places. Marvin said, if given the chance, he would pick a wound vac over "packing" an open wound any day! With the wound vac, the -- and this is going to start to get gross here, so stop reading if you're weak-of-stomach --- gunk from the wound is continuously pulled out through the sponge into the little wound vac box. When you use the "packing," that gunk stays right there in the wound until you change it again, which can't be a good thing. The only bad part of the wound vac is the changing of the sponge because it does take some "good" tissue out with it when you change it. Earlinda is right -- it does sound like a little pig grunting; we named Marvin's wound vac "Piglet."
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Oh boy, I have to give it a name. OK any suggestions I need a name for the Vac. Please help...Boxman
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Marvin and I give "nicknames" to everything. How about..."Porky" (as in Porky the Pig) or if you want your wound vac to be a female how about "Petunia" (as in Petunia the Pig)?
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Piggy Vac?
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well they hooked me up to the vac today. It is kind of a pain it is the size of a brick and weighs about the same. I have to remember to grab it when I get up off the chair and sling it over my shoulder. I almost forgot it a few times. Also it is set on intermittent so it is quiet for a period then it starts oinking or as my friend said, "farting" it has startled me a couple times. Dining in a quiet resturant should be fun. " Oh waiter check please, (fart- fart- fart as the thing starts up), food was good, thanks ;D...Boxman
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Boxman now you can fart worry free, blame it on your purse
I did not know we could send you cards, food and things
don't you have a cat?
anyway, I know if you looked at trivia, you are next
we should have a new thread Stump Boxman
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this thing is such a hassle, It keeps me up at night, I keep tangling up in the hose, when it starts up it sometimes startles you, i get up and forget it so then it hits the floor. Man this thing literally sucks...Boxman
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Yeah, but hang in there. It's going to do you some real good.
Must be difficult, though, when all you want is to get a good nights sleep.
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Hang in there BoxMan :grouphug;
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Benadryl, lots of benadryl! :cuddle;
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I know how it sounds -snort silence snort. We lived with it for twelve weeks. You can so it. Just call it a name every now and then.
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A remarkably effective treatment for healing of stubborn wounds, especially in diabetics, was developed and extensively used in the Soviet Union and the Eastern block countries, where it is still available today. Today there is a whole industry of transporting diabetics from the West to the East to the special clinics where this treatment is used. However, since it employs bacteriophage therapy, it is controversial, and not allowed in any Western country.
I know from personal experience how irritating it can be to have to wear a device for continuous treatment of an infection, especially when it is noisy. I once had a line in my arm connected to a pump to give me a continuous feed of antibiotics, and since the entire device could be hidden under my clothes, I didn't tell anyone at work about it. One day I was at a seminar with about a dozen students and the line developed a kink, which caused the warning alarm of the pump -- a loud, continuous beeping sound -- to go off. No one knew where the noise was coming from, and I tried to pretend it was coming from my computer because the battery was wearing down. Eventually one of the students got up, looked out the window, and then closed the window, thinking that the beeping was the sound of a truck's back-up alarm.
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Boxman, I just stumbled on this thread and read the whole thing waiting for the news to get better. I was completely bummed that two toes went missing and the coffin chamber didn't sound like a picnic either, although the silk pyjamas and the restaurant scenario were good for a laugh. So sorry you've been having to deal with all this and glad you're not in hospital any longer. All-inclusive yes but there are some things I wish would just go ahead and exclude us.
Thoughts of speedy healing
Gail
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well they hooked me up to the vac today. It is kind of a pain it is the size of a brick and weighs about the same. I have to remember to grab it when I get up off the chair and sling it over my shoulder. I almost forgot it a few times. Also it is set on intermittent so it is quiet for a period then it starts oinking or as my friend said, "farting" it has startled me a couple times. Dining in a quiet resturant should be fun. " Oh waiter check please, (fart- fart- fart as the thing starts up), food was good, thanks ;D...Boxman
We called Rolando's "Miss Piggy". We went everywhere with it. While you're home, it seems loud but we found that the background noise at movies, restaurants, the local comedy club and most anywhere else drown it out.
It was immensely effective in healing a heel wound for Rolando. As far as pain, do you have feeling in your feet?
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i have very little feeling in my foot. So the pain is minimal. I just came back from dinner with my Dad. Sat in a booth with my jacket over the machine. I think I was the only one that heard it, but it still drove me nuts. You are right about at home, it seems like it is super loud. I hope it is a benefit because it is a lot to put up with...Boxman
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Piggy Vac?
:rofl; :clap; (and it only took me three visits to this thread to figure it out... duh!)
And, after the little piggie heals your wound you can celebrate. A feast, perhaps?
Yes, a feast! ...perhaps a nice roast pork served on a bed of sauerkraut... yum!!!
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Box,
i hope a little hug will do comfort :cuddle; :cuddle; :cuddle; and more hugs :grouphug; :grouphug; :grouphug; keep on, you are not alone, you are always in my prayers.
love,
cris
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Thanks cris, well I had the home care nurse come by today to change my dressing of the wound vac. Her name is Olga and I think I am in love. First of all , I told her how much I hated the noise the vac makes and she says "let me show you a little trick" (I was hoping for something differant >:D but this was pretty good) in the back of the machine is (6) little exhaust holes. We put a piece of tape over them and low and behold the thing is almost silent. :bandance; The small things do it for me...Boxman
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That's good! Shame she didn't have any other "little tricks" up her sleeve >:D. Wishing you good healing :grouphug;
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boxman, glad the home nurse could help some. I have discovered that most of them have a few tricks they know, it's getting them to share. :cuddle;
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see what love can do..... it can silence your vac. keep on loving Box and you'll find your wound heals in no time. :2thumbsup;
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Hey, Box! How's the healing with the wound vac (Piggy) going? We need an update! Also, is there anything you need to tell us about Olga, the home health nurse? Any news there?