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Dialysis Discussion => Dialysis: General Discussion => Topic started by: Ohio Buckeye on January 19, 2008, 10:58:33 AM
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Tuesday's (1/22) show will have guests that have had kidney transplants or are
waiiting for a transplant. A man named CoJo who had a transplant, will be on also.
Just wanted to pass along tis info. Could be an interesting show.
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Carol posted an article about this man a day or so ago.
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Thanks for the heads up OB, i will set my TiVo for sure ;) :2thumbsup;
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Damn, I missed this post and the show...TBS was showing both Bridget Jones movies today.
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Damn, I missed this post and the show...TBS was showing both Bridget Jones movies today.
Um, Katie....the show is this coming Tuesday. ;)
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Earth to KT0930...that new kidney obviously has your head in the clouds!! :rofl;
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Cojo is on the E Channel I think. He does correspondent stuff like the Red Carpet events. He's had three transplants, I believe. That's if we're talking about the same person. My DVR is set... Can't say TIVO anymore. sniff I loved my TIVO :'(
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Thanks for the heads up, I'll set the DVR.
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:oops; I saw "Today (1/22)" I realized late last night that 1/22 is Tuesday. Hopefully I'll be home in time...I have clinic that morning.
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Thanks for the heads up OB, i will set my TiVo for sure ;) :2thumbsup;
What, you are doing Tibo?? wtf?? good luck with that. :)
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I will be watching that.
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Did any of yu watch Dr. Phil? and what did you think about it?
I thought it was really intresting. Glad Phil and Robin are organ donors now.
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its not on here (vancouver island) for another two hours, but i do plan to watch it, even though i've heard that cojo guy is on and he is one of the most annoying people
in this galaxy... :thx;
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I just watched the show with Les,
Cojo is annoying, teehee, but he did
give some excellant advice to another
guest, a young girl who had gotten
two transplants. She seemed to have
the attitude that if this second one failed,
no biggie= she would just look to get a
third from her sis, who felt she did not take
as good care of herself as she should!
I thought it was a pretty good show, even tho
we are not Dr Phil fans here.
Anne
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yeah, i know what you mean. he's so damn opinionated and know-it-all. like everybody that doesn't see things and live the way he does has something wrong with them. ::)
its good that there is some exposure to the kidney issue though, but i seriously doubt that anything useful for any of us will come from it.
(man, i'm gettin this cynicism stuff down, hey?!) :yahoo;
love
LL
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I like Dr. Phil, he is very down to earth and tells you like it is. He is pretty harsh at times but sometimes he has to be, some people he has on the show are just plain ignorant and stubborn. I know so many people that could use a good dose of Dr. Phil :boxing;
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i think he's a dickhead, but that's just my take. they have losers on the show because sane people don't need help and it doesn't sell.
i like jerry springer more. he's honest and non-judgemental and his show really tells us what humanity is all about.
>:D
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I was a little disappointed in Dr. Phil's show (and I usually like Dr. Phil). The lady on there who had had two transplants and now wasn't taking care of herself (especially the meds part), I'm afraid, may shed a bad light on organ recipients. Her attitude was, "If this one fails, someone else will give me a third transplant." I hope the general public doesn't think that all recipients are this ungrateful and unappreciative and unconcerned. Also, even though Dr. Phil did say he and Robin are now organ donors, I wish he had talked more about organ donation and the great need for more donors. Having CoJo on there with his taking-care-of-myself and changed-my-lifestyle attitude was good, but I wish Dr. Phil had also included a "real" (common, ordinary) recipient who is doing the same. I think there are many more recipients out there who are doing all they can to hang on to their transplant than there are ones like this chick. I wish Dr. Phil had accentuated the positive, compliant recipients rather than this lady -- she kind of made us look bad.
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I watched a couple of minutes of it - just enough to see CoJo go off on his rant at the little ditz who didn't seem to care about taking care of her kidney. I didn't think I could stomach much of her "I'm entitled to as many as I need" attitude, so I shut it off.
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Any thing that helps put donation in the news is good news. I liked the show and I thought Dr. Phil did a good job at the end with the donation thing. I believe he will have more in the future with the woman that he talked to on the phone who is waiting for a transplant. He said they would follow her progress. We seem to complain when no one talks about donation and then complain when there is something, but not quite what we think is the right amount.
The show is on at 9am and 10 minutes into the show, the station broke in and spent the next 50 minutes talking about the tiny bit of moisture that was freezing on the overpasses. Yes, in the south, everything stops when the temps dip below 32degrees! So, I called the station to see if they were going to replay the show. They said no, but she could connect me with some Director of something. So I left a voice mail explaining how important shows like this were to the renal community and all those waiting for transplants and would they please consider airing it at another time. I got a call a couple of hours later telling me it would be on at 5 on the Fox station, so I got to watch in today afterall.
And AlohaBeth bought me Cojo's book tonight! I am looking forward to reading it.
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well, i was as disappointed as i expected to be. nice for cojo, to have tons of money and friends with the same, but i don't think the show did a good job of representing the average kidney patient at all. the impression was that a transplant is a cure and everything is fine and rosy after you get one.
we can't expect much more from television, i guess... :thumbdown;
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OK LL-- you have shown us your sweet side, now we expect it to come out a little more often! We know your the cynic---that is your role here and we love you for it!! Cojo did explain that the meds are what keeps him living and how he changed his life because he valued this kidney so much. He said dialysis was hell and couldn't believe that girl would forget to take her anti-rejections meds. He said things with a smile, but you could tell how he felt about the subject. Now, my husband, on the other hand said the guy gave him the willies and couldn't watch him!! As I said earlier, we complain when nothing is done; we complain when something is done, but not the way we want it done. Any job done is better than no job done. Now I am going to listen to another song of yours to remind me of the gentle soul inside your cynical exterior :2thumbsup; Love ya!
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What would anyone expect if it had to do with "Dr. Phil" :rofl;
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I'm not too surprised, disappointed, but not surprised. So who could portray us well, and realistically? There's been talk of trying to get on Oprah and have a voice there. Could she do a better job?
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I missed it. Clinic ran late, then we had errands to run, darnit! I'll see if it's posted on the web anywhere.
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I think Cojo did a good job talking about the importance of the disease and meds and all that, and i wanted to literally slap the shit out of that lady so she wake up and realize that what she has is sooo valuable and tell her how blessed she is for having it :( And i dont know if anyone seen George Lopez (a rerun) but it was about George giving his dad a kidney, everytime the subject came up, there was a joke to follow, now how are people going to take it seriously if these shows keep throwing in "donating a kidney" as a joke? I dunno just my :twocents; :popcorn;
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Nina, that's the problem, they show donating a kidney is nothing, zip, it's in, all better!!!
Doesn't quite work that way.......
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The transcript is here: http://www.drphil.com/shows/show/1015
You need to click on each show segment and then clicdk on the "slide" button at the top of each segment to see the whole thing.
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goofynina, i could be wrong but didn't george lopez have a kidney donated to him by his wife? i don't think the show was to poke fun at donation but to give awareness to donation.
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Your right Oswald, he did get a kidney from his wife. I have seen him interviewed a couple of times post transplant. Any time donation is in the news, for whatever reason, it help a little.
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He sure did Oswald, but what i am saying is because they put it in a sitcom and joke about it, some people may not take it as serious as it actually is. If they wanted to give awareness to kidney donation i think they can find ways to do it without making it a punchline, just my :twocents;
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He sure did Oswald, but what i am saying is because they put it in a sitcom and joke about it, some people may not take it as serious as it actually is. If they wanted to give awareness to kidney donation i think they can find ways to do it without making it a punchline, just my :twocents;
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Nina, I could not agree more. I would have
hoped that of all people, George Lopez
(who I really happen to like) would have
handled this a little differently!
Anne
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Nina, that's the problem, they show donating a kidney is nothing, zip, it's in, all better!!!
Doesn't quite work that way.......
Worked that way for me the first time, and after waiting on a list the second time it was "zip, its in all better" for me. So yeah, it CAN work that way.. but I get what your saying.
As for the George Lopez episode, that's his show, COMEDY, and he brought it up for awareness, it don't matter if there were punchlines, as he stated for his reason for doing it, was for awareness... and I for one, think he did an excellent job even bringing it up.
As for my view on the show, I thought it was great... any awareness is good awareness.. the lady was stupid, and I hope her transplant team saw her and will note her attitude and so forth. As for th everything is fine after the transplant, that's how it's been for me both times so far (knock on wood) until the rejection.. so they did a great job of telling it to me, and I just think they should of added more about rejection being the outcome further down the road, and note it can have a bad experience afterward... but all in all, GREAT show, because again, we cannot be picky about awareness.. that's just pitiful. :thumbup;
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Worked that way for me the first time, and after waiting on a list the second time it was "zip, its in all better" for me. So yeah, it CAN work that way.. but I get what your saying.
No, that's not how it worked. You're not cured of ESRD, you have to take anti-rejection meds for the rest of the life of the transplant, you have to be extra-vigilant about infections, cleaning raw foods, cooking ground beef and chicken, and not getting around sick people. Yes, you feel better, but you're not done with dealing with it. With my first transplant, because I was so young when I got it, I didn't realize what I had and I thought it was "you're all better" too. It really wasn't until the second one failed that I realized what an amazingly precious gift I had been given. If we, as patients, think "zip, it's all in, we're better", how are we going to educate the general public about the importance of organ donation, and even keeping themselves from developing ESRD if they have pre-disposing factors for it?
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Worked that way for me the first time, and after waiting on a list the second time it was "zip, its in all better" for me. So yeah, it CAN work that way.. but I get what your saying.
No, that's not how it worked. You're not cured of ESRD, you have to take anti-rejection meds for the rest of the life of the transplant, you have to be extra-vigilant about infections, cleaning raw foods, cooking ground beef and chicken, and not getting around sick people. Yes, you feel better, but you're not done with dealing with it. With my first transplant, because I was so young when I got it, I didn't realize what I had and I thought it was "you're all better" too. It really wasn't until the second one failed that I realized what an amazingly precious gift I had been given. If we, as patients, think "zip, it's all in, we're better", how are we going to educate the general public about the importance of organ donation, and even keeping themselves from developing ESRD if they have pre-disposing factors for it?
It is zip, it's all in, I'm better, for ME. Yes I take anti-rejections meds, so what? Thats just part of my everyday life, I'm still better, I KNOW it isn't a CURE, however,for me it's my chance to live a normal life for a certain amount of years, and I will take full advantage of it and see it as yes, I'm better... and yes, I KNOW IT'S NOT A CURE.. I don't need someone to tell me that, as I AM THE PATIENT. I don't need to stay away from sick people, I don't need to do anything you said... as I am not just recently out of a transplant, I am 1 year post, and I can be around anyone I want, however I am not stupid and it's common sense not to hang around someone who has the flu or whatever, but I am saying I don't limit myself one bit from going and doing whatever I want in public... and cooking your chicken/beef until done is just common sense and has nothing to do with ESRD.
Basically what I'm saying, is for ME I like to view my time with a transplant as "normal" living as possible and not focus my life on how I have ESRD. Yes, I have it, and always will, but for awhile, I am normal, and I am living normally with taking a few pills everyday. I like to look at MY life, positively and when I am on dialysis again, then I can be pouty and depressed and looking at the world negatively.. but right now... I have been given a chance to live normal. :twocents; 8)
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angela and kt, i think you are both right, no need to argue. :cuddle; now kiss and make out. :-* uh, i mean kiss and make up. >:D :rofl; i'm sorry, i'm a psyco sicko. kt, you are right, you should stay away from people with colds and such for awhile. the further out you go with the transplant the more lax you can be and live a more normal life. angela's right also. her kidney is more adjusted to her body now that it's been over a year. chances are she's on less immuno meds then you are. so to her, and to me too, it is like being normal. we both know that having a transplant is not a cure but a treatment. just my :twocents;
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I know that after a year or more you don't have to be AS careful as I am now, but even at the 15-18 year mark with my first transplant I had to be more careful than a "healthy" person would have been around sick people and with all the other things I mentioned. I agree that having a transplant allows you to feel like you are normal for the time it lasts, and it's a wonderful feeling, but somewhere, in the back of your mind, you still need to keep the transplant in your realm of thoughts and actions. I'm not being pouty or negative, just realistic. Sorry, didn't mean to upset anyone.
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Much as I hate to be accused of being an optimist, I am inclined to agree that with a transplant the patient is much closer to being entitled to regard himself as 'healthy' than as 'sick.' Taking two bunches of pills a day, having blood tests every three months, and visiting the nephrologist once every nine months -- which is my regimen now more than two years post-transplant -- is such a tiny interference with normal living that it hardly counts. I am not especially careful about avoiding people with colds or the flu, nor do I take any more care about washing vegetables than I did before immunosuppression, yet during the two years after the transplant I have been less bothered by colds and flu than I was before the transplant!
Now of course there is the threat of the graft failing or of complications arising from the anti-rejection medications, yet it is important to note that a major reason for kidney failure, especially with a living donor's kidney, is the death of the patient causing the transplanted kidney to fail, not the other way around.
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:cuddle; :beer1;