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Title: I think I'm about to lose it
Post by: Adam_W on December 13, 2007, 08:21:57 AM
 :rant; Ok, for the last six months or so, I've been feeling pretty good with daily dialysis. But, I have in no way returned to being "normal". What's driving me f'ing crazy is how my family thinks I'm super man and can do all these normal things just because I have a little white machine called NxStage. I made the mistake of mentioning I'd like to take a college class, and now some of my family expects me to go to full time college and get one of those super degrees. As much as I'd like to do some thing like that, I CANT! I would never be able to handle that much. I do dialysis every day, and I JUST COULDN'T HANDLE IT ALL. Taking a one semester class is one thing Being a full time student going for four years and taking like five classes a semester is something a lot of NORMAL people cant handle LET ALONE MOST DIALYSIS PATIENTS. There are some dialysis patients who CAN handle all that, but I'M NOT ONE OF THEM. I admire them, but not all of us can do that. I'm just sick of people thinking I'm normal because I'm not on in-centre anymore. I'm trying not to have a pity party and say "Oh woe is me!", I'm just saying that I'm not "normal" because I will ALWAYS have ESRD, no matter what treatment I do. To make things worse, I was just started on a new med to help headaches I'm having because of nerve pain in my head, and it makes me feel weak, drowsy, and dizzy all at the same time. My aunt was over to pick up my mom to go Christmas shopping, and the dog was constantly barking the whole time she was here. My mom yelled at the dog a few times to get her to be quiet, but when I yelled at the dog, my mother got mad at me. I told her that I feel like crap and the dog's constant barking is making me feel worse. She said that basically I should "stop complaining and deal with it" She said that sometimes she feels bad too, because her back hurts. She broke a couple vertebrae in here back from a seizure several years ago, and sometimes the pain is really bad. I'm in no way saying she's a wuss or anything because I understand (to a point) how much her back really hurts. I just think it's wrong to bunch my kidney disease in with back pain. They are two VERY DIFFERENT THINGS. I know my family cares about me and loves me, but I think they still think they understand more than they really do or can. My grandmother is the only one who can truly understand because she is also on dialysis. There are a lot of things I'd like to do like going to college, doing missionary work (something I was working on doing before I got sick), and working full time in the dialysis field. Sometime in the future I may be able to do some of these things, but I CAN'T DO THEM NOW! My dad was mad at me because I'm buying a new rifle. It cost $140 and he's mad because I'm "spending so much money" The way I look at it, with ESRD, I don't know how much longer I may have, and I should do things I enjoy. If shooting and enjoying that $140 rifle takes my mind off of dialysis and my disease, than it's WORTH EVERY F'N PENNY.Well, I think I'm done for now. Thanks for all of your support. In a big way, you people are a big part of what has kept me sane all this time. Thank you, Epoman for this site, and rest in peace  :angel;   

Adam
Title: Re: I think I'm about to lose it
Post by: okarol on December 13, 2007, 08:34:18 AM
Dear Adam,
I am sorry about the stress you're feeling. You're right. People see you as a functioning, capable person and the expectation is that you will just carry on like everyone else. No one knows your limits like you do. I think taking a class is a HUGE deal, and I admire you for tackling it. Your parents worry, I imagine, about your future and how you will take care of yourself. I think that it's hard for them not to want to push you, in your own best interests of course. I hope you will take on the things you want to do, and don't stress out. Being "normal" is so overrated anyway! You're doing a great job caring for your illness, hang in there my friend!
 :cuddle;
Title: Re: I think I'm about to lose it
Post by: boxman55 on December 13, 2007, 08:50:46 AM
Hang in there Adam, I'm with you on the rifle. If you enjoy something and it distracts you from ESRD for awhile GO FOR IT. as long as the outlay doesn't put you in a bind paying other bills. We still have to be somewhat responsible...Boxman
Title: Re: I think I'm about to lose it
Post by: Phurball on December 13, 2007, 09:40:45 AM
Hi Hon,  I am so sorry you are having such a hard time.  Considering the "mother" in question is my only child I can not comment one way or the other.  The one thing I can do tho, is to tell you that I love you , always have, always will, no matter what.

I do understand your frustrations tho.  Since your Grandpa passed, I feel very much alone.  Now that I am on dialysis I have NO choice but to drive myself to my treatments and most importantly be strong enough to drive myself home. To an empty condo.   However...... I suspect that if you and I polled the good folks here we soon would discover that noone has the so called perfect life.   

Adam, you cant let others lead you down the road of your life,  basically its a walk we all make on our own.  You need to look inside of yourself and see just what it is you really want for your future.  Even tho I am 40 years your senior, I still refuse to give up my hopes and dreams.  You are right about time running out tho, it ran out for your Grandpa way to soon.  And because of that I refuse to just sit by and let this dang esrd rule my life and just wait for my time to run out.     ESRD = Everyone Should Run toward their Destiny !!  NOW !!  Even when we are so sick we cant seem to lift our heads off the pillow, at least we can still dream.   Heck even on my worst days I can close my eyes and be basking on a beautiful beach in the Bahama's.  ( of course there MUST be a goodlooking cabana boy with an icy umbrella drink in hand ) LOL. 

I love you my dear Grandson
Always and Forever

Nana

Title: Re: I think I'm about to lose it
Post by: Sunny on December 13, 2007, 12:02:59 PM
Wow grandma, he's lucky to have you. I wish I had one of you.
Title: Re: I think I'm about to lose it
Post by: Sluff on December 13, 2007, 12:30:42 PM
 Adam just being able to come here and explain your frustrations is a huge step. You are right on all counts, others don't feel your limitations as you do so it's not real to them. In other words" do not judge me unless you have walked a mile in my moccasins." rings true. As for the rifle, we all should be allowed to live a little until we can't.

Keep on keeping on friend.
Title: Re: I think I'm about to lose it
Post by: Deanne on December 13, 2007, 01:03:49 PM
You sound very stressed out! Your family probably thinks they're only trying to encourage you to live as normal a life as possible. There just isn't a way for them to understand what it's like to be a young guy who *can't* do everytyhing other young guys can do. Rant away and then enjoy your life as much as you can (be careful with that rifle!!!!). Is it possible that the medication you're taking for your headache is also making you more sensitive / irritable about things? Not asking to criticize, but since you mentioned that the dog barking was so annoying -- do you think you were more annoyed about the barking than before you started taking the new medication?

It's great that you're taking a class. What's the subject?
Title: Re: I think I'm about to lose it
Post by: Adam_W on December 13, 2007, 02:01:44 PM
Thanks for everyones support/concern. I'm not actually taking a class yet, but I'm looking at taking a basic one semester class for dialysis tech training (I don't think I would trust a centre's on the job training quality), or a class for basic bio-medical training. As for Deanne's comment about the medicine, I did consider that, but if anyone was around my dog when she really gets going, I think anyone would want to shoot themselves after a few minutes of it. We're trying to find effective (and safe and humane) ways to control her when she "spazzes out". I feel a lot better now, and I'm no longer mad at anyone. I do realize everyone is trying their best to help me out, but doing things like college and work have to be on my time. NxStage has helped immensely, but like I said, I still have ESRD. My nurse is talking to my doctor (easier for her to get a hold of him than me), and he will help me and my general care doc work out dosing. My GP did make sure it was ok for me to take it since I'm on dialysis, but I just may not be able to handle this particular dose.  As for the rifle, buying it won't effect any of my bills, so I see nothing wrong with buying it. Shooting is right up there with model building as far as helping me to NOT think about ESRD and dialysis, because when I'm aiming a rifle or a pistol down-range at a target, I have to concentrate so much to make sure I hit that target in the right spot, I can't think about anything else. I even tried using a picture of a dialysis machine as a target, and it worked a little bit, but shooting at a regular target, is even more effective at taking the dialysis thoughts away. Again, thanks for the support. I really needed it.

Adam
Title: Re: I think I'm about to lose it
Post by: kellyt on December 13, 2007, 02:08:36 PM
 :cuddle;
Title: Re: I think I'm about to lose it
Post by: Deanne on December 13, 2007, 02:19:20 PM
Thanks for not taking my question about possible medication effects wrong. I just remember what prednisone did to my mental state and I know other meds can do the same, so I had to ask. I'm glad you're not feeling mad anymore. Ranting is a good thing!

I have a dog who spazzes out / goes into hysterics, too. It isn't like "normal" barking -- it's more like he really is freaking out. Sound familiar? If you find an answer, please share! I crate this dog when most people comes over, but then he barks non-stop in his crate until they leave. Still better than having him barking and trying to bite someone's foot! I think what would help if I had the *right* visitors is to get his attention and as soon as he shuts up for even a second, give him a treat. I know he'll just start barking again, but then get his (or in your case, her) attention again, wait a tiny bit longer and then give the treat, gradually extending the quiet time before the treat. I haven't done much with this myself but only because I don't entertain / rarely have visitors and most people who come over are contractors there to fix something.
Title: Re: I think I'm about to lose it
Post by: Adam_W on December 13, 2007, 03:55:02 PM
Oh man! Hilda sometimes seems like the dog from hell. In fact she just pushed her way out the front door as my mom was getting a pizza from the delivery man. She actually chased the pizza man to his car before my mom got a hold of her. She didn't bite him and he wasn't mad, but she is getting difficult to control when people come to the door. We have a toy cap pistol that we use, and the noise usually makes her settle down, but not always. We don't know what to do.

Adam
Title: Re: I think I'm about to lose it
Post by: Sluff on December 13, 2007, 04:32:27 PM
I have to put mine in the kennel when we expect people over.
Title: Re: I think I'm about to lose it
Post by: Deanne on December 13, 2007, 04:34:43 PM
For starters, hand over that pizza, I'm hungry!!!!!  :rofl; :rofl; :rofl;

Do you have the kind of door you can put a child gate in? That worked to keep my dachshund from escaping. Don't let those short legs fool you, doxies can run FAST and they go deaf when they hear their name called. They're also slippery little eels. The child gate saved me from many escapes. My other dog gets sent into his crate when I expect a delivery.
Title: Re: I think I'm about to lose it
Post by: Adam_W on December 13, 2007, 04:58:10 PM
Hilda would just fly right over the gate. I'm not too surprised she acts this way, she's part German Shepard and part coyote. Normally she's the biggest wuss, but when she feels like she needs to "protect" us, that's when she gets going-just like a coyote.

Adam
Title: Re: I think I'm about to lose it
Post by: kitkatz on December 13, 2007, 08:59:30 PM
Great rant.  I feel atlot of what you said in my life, too.
Title: Re: I think I'm about to lose it
Post by: jbeany on December 14, 2007, 06:53:10 PM
I hear ya, Adam - and I want your nana - will she adopt another grandkid?  My gram is 90, and has been sick lately, so I've been running myself ragged trying to take care of her.  I'm getting really frustrated with trying to set up support people to help her cope with living at home.  Every time I find a way to get her in-home care to do chores or take care of her, she insists that she doesn't need to pay for any help because "my granddaughter can do all that for me."   Auuuuugh - NO, I can't! - what part of "I can't be here every day to help" aren't you getting?  I don't have the money to simply buy her what she needs, and she refuses to admit she needs anything.  She knows I'm on dialysis, and that I have to be home to do it, but she doesn't seem to get that I don't suddenly have endless amounts of energy to take care of her, just because the home dialysis makes me feel better than the in-center did.  I ran so much the first week she was sick that I ended up sick and puking all weekend.  That dehydrated me to the point that my access clotted, and I spent the next week dealing with that instead helping her - and she still doesn't seem to understand. . .  :banghead;
Title: Re: I think I'm about to lose it
Post by: paris on December 14, 2007, 07:21:17 PM
Jbeany, I am sorry you are having to do so much.  I think we all need our personal IHD island because we are the only ones who "get it"!  We can all live happily ever after together and no one will say "but you look so good" or "are you better yet?".   :2thumbsup;   Are there any other relatives to help with your Grandmother? 

Adam, I hope you are doing better.  You are fortunate to have such a sweet Nana.  There is nothing like the love of a Nana (I am a Nana, too!).    Come here and rant all you want. And then go shoot your gun!  I would like to shoot something some days!  If we don't find ways to keep our minds busy and happy, we will all go mad with worry, fear and pain. Take care of yourself.
Title: Re: I think I'm about to lose it
Post by: Lori1851 on December 15, 2007, 03:46:08 AM
Adam,
Just wanted to send you a hug on here (((((((()))))). I cannot say what dialysis is like since I am not on it. I can say I know how it makes my son feel which is usually sh___y!!!! I find myself on the other side of the fence. I don't push Dustin . I feel he knows what he can and cannot do. Trust me his dream is to work on cars like he use to, He took 2 years at Vocational school and passed 2 certification test that no student had done like in years. Enjoy your good days and like I tell Dustin your just alil slow on getting started in life as far as work and other things BUT your time will come when you will be able to enjoy,
Lori ;)  :snowman
Title: Re: I think I'm about to lose it
Post by: stauffenberg on December 15, 2007, 08:02:27 AM
At my dialysis center they were very proud that one of their patients was going through medical school, which is one of the most high-intensity, demanding, and stressful academic courses in the university, mainly because they pack into just three years of study what in Europe they take six (in Germany) or even seven (in France) years to teach.  However, I could never believe how that student managed it, since I had to quit my job while on dialysis and was not able to work at any time before getting my transplant.

The encouraging news is that if you do get a transplant, you may not feel quite 100% as strong as you did before developing renal failure, but you will certainly be strong enough, healthy enough, and bright enough to handle any normal course of work or study.  I went back to my old job just two weeks after my transplant and never felt unable to handle all the stress that goes with it.

Your headaches sound like neuropathic headaches, which can also be caused by the damage resulting from accumulated toxins not cleared by dialysis.  Getting a transplant soon may prevent that neurological disturbance from becoming permanent.

I have two miniature dachshunds at home, which were bred in the 1480s to hunt badgers in pairs.  One would dig it up and hold it by the backside while the other would bark like crazy to call the hunter to where they were so he could kill the badger.  Unfortunately, now that five hundred years later they have become mainly housepets, they still bark as though they were out hunting badgers.
Title: Re: I think I'm about to lose it
Post by: Adam_W on December 20, 2007, 08:09:51 PM
Well, the frustration continues. We've been making plans for our various family gatherings for Christmas, and we were talking about a planned party on Sunday. We were discussing how long we'd be there, which would be just about all day. Since I started dialysis, I haven't been able to handle long, all day parties with a lot of people in a small house and a lot of noise. Now, my parents are aware of this (or so I thought). So I said that I may not go because I wouldn't be able to handle the stress of it. My dad just looks at me and says "Why not, it'll be fun". I very briefly lost it and yelled "BECAUSE I'M ON DIALYSIS! I CAN'T HANDLE THINGS LIKE THAT". My mom then snapped at me and said something like I don't have the right to yell. I'm sick of people so close to me being so oblivious to my health problem. Oh gee, lets see now! I NEED A FREAKING MACHINE TO LIVE! How oblivious can one really be when they are so close to me? GRRRRR!!!! As for stauffenberg's comment about getting a transplant, please don't take this the wrong way because I know you're just trying to help, but I don't really want anyone pushing me to get a transplant right now. A few months ago, I thought I was ready for one, but there are just too many things that, pardon my French, scare the living shit out of me. Soon I'll be starting nocturnal hemodialysis 8 hrs, six nights a week, and that can conceivably give me clinical results that rival a successful transplant. I'm glad your transplant is working good, though and I hope it continues to, but it just isn't for me. As for the dachshunds, I would NEVER be able to have one of those dogs, the way they bark like that. 

Adam
Title: Re: I think I'm about to lose it
Post by: goofynina on December 20, 2007, 08:56:04 PM
You are not alone my friend, so many times we sit around the table and my family talks about going to Disneyland or Universal Studios or just anywhere in general and i am the only one thinking, i cant walk that far, i cant climb the steps, i cant this and i cant that, but no one remembers that about me until i say something that is, then i am left feeling like the bad one cuz i think i make them feel bad.  It is hard living like this, but to be honest, i would much rather stay home than to go anywhere anyways, i cannot handle crowds, screaming kids and all that anymore either.  Gimme a little peace and quiet and we'll get along just fine :P  :2thumbsup;
Title: Re: I think I'm about to lose it
Post by: George Jung on December 20, 2007, 09:55:46 PM
Yea it kinda sucks that we (dialysis patients) have to be more than the average person.  We are living just like everyone else with all of the everyday troubles of life and on top of that we have to live with the fact that a machine keeps us from dying.  No one can understand all of the time unless they have been there, even those closest to us, and we have to understand that.  We have to realize that there will be times when others "forget" but we also have to forgive them and just know that they can't always understand.

I was at a Christmas party on Monday night and there was this girl (a drunk girl who spent a good portion of the night on the stripper pole with a whip in one hand) who kept telling me to "lighten up".  I could have gotton aggravated with her but I know she meant well.  Little did she know that I was enjoying myself, I  had a beer, I just wasn't drunk.  I stayed for the entire party, until 2:30am, watched everyone drink and dance and live care free.  As much as I would like people to understand at times, I know they can't, so I try to be more.  I try to be the one to understand.

I know it sucks but rather than getting yourself frustrated try to be more understanding.  There are times when I snap too and after I regain composure I often think of how I could have handled the situation differently.  Can you drive yourself to the party so you have an "out" when you need to leave?
Title: Re: I think I'm about to lose it
Post by: stauffenberg on December 21, 2007, 09:37:25 AM
You wouldn't happen to have that girl's telephone number, would you?
Title: Re: I think I'm about to lose it
Post by: xtrememoosetrax on December 21, 2007, 10:06:59 AM
You wouldn't happen to have that girl's telephone number, would you?
:rofl; :rofl; :rofl;
Title: Re: I think I'm about to lose it
Post by: lola on December 21, 2007, 10:13:38 AM
Goofy you didn't tell us you went to georges party :bandance; :bandance;
Title: Re: I think I'm about to lose it
Post by: goofynina on December 21, 2007, 10:28:07 AM
Goofy you didn't tell us you went to georges party :bandance; :bandance;

*hiccup* OOPS, BUSTED  ::) *cracks whip* whooop-pah  ;D
Title: Re: I think I'm about to lose it
Post by: st789 on December 21, 2007, 10:42:25 AM
Same here.  Sometimes,  I feel like I can't communicate with people outside of this site.  Since I live in los angeles, people here are rude and always looking for an edge.   Is like they are all so important and don't bother them.
Title: Re: I think I'm about to lose it
Post by: paddbear0000 on December 21, 2007, 12:14:41 PM
Thanks for everyones support/concern. I'm not actually taking a class yet, but I'm looking at taking a basic one semester class for dialysis tech training (I don't think I would trust a centre's on the job training quality), or a class for basic bio-medical training. As for Deanne's comment about the medicine, I did consider that, but if anyone was around my dog when she really gets going, I think anyone would want to shoot themselves after a few minutes of it. We're trying to find effective (and safe and humane) ways to control her when she "spazzes out". I feel a lot better now, and I'm no longer mad at anyone. I do realize everyone is trying their best to help me out, but doing things like college and work have to be on my time. NxStage has helped immensely, but like I said, I still have ESRD. My nurse is talking to my doctor (easier for her to get a hold of him than me), and he will help me and my general care doc work out dosing. My GP did make sure it was ok for me to take it since I'm on dialysis, but I just may not be able to handle this particular dose.  As for the rifle, buying it won't effect any of my bills, so I see nothing wrong with buying it. Shooting is right up there with model building as far as helping me to NOT think about ESRD and dialysis, because when I'm aiming a rifle or a pistol down-range at a target, I have to concentrate so much to make sure I hit that target in the right spot, I can't think about anything else. I even tried using a picture of a dialysis machine as a target, and it worked a little bit, but shooting at a regular target, is even more effective at taking the dialysis thoughts away. Again, thanks for the support. I really needed it.

Adam

Have you tried a muzzle? You can get fabric ones that are gentle to the dog. And they work. I've used them myself for barking dogs. Warning, if you have 2 dogs, they may tag team and pull them off of each other! My dogs did that. It's hilarious to watch.

Anyway, Adam, your rant was spectacular! You should send a copy of that to your relatives, so maybe they'll finally get a hint. Maybe "accidentally" send it out to your Group e-mail list!  >:D
Title: Re: I think I'm about to lose it
Post by: George Jung on December 21, 2007, 04:50:29 PM
 :rofl; ............................555 Su Lovin
Title: Re: I think I'm about to lose it
Post by: xtrememoosetrax on December 22, 2007, 10:19:11 AM
Goofy you didn't tell us you went to georges party :bandance; :bandance;
*hiccup* OOPS, BUSTED  ::) *cracks whip* whooop-pah  ;D
:rofl; :rofl; :rofl;
Title: Re: I think I'm about to lose it
Post by: meadowlandsnj on December 22, 2007, 01:36:23 PM

I was at a Christmas party on Monday night and there was this girl (a drunk girl who spent a good portion of the night on the stripper pole with a whip in one hand) who kept telling me to "lighten up".  I could have gotton aggravated with her but I know she meant well.  Little did she know that I was enjoying myself, I  had a beer, I just wasn't drunk.  I stayed for the entire party, until 2:30am, watched everyone drink and dance and live care free.  As much as I would like people to understand at times, I know they can't, so I try to be more.  I try to be the one to understand.



I went to my cousins engagement party two weeks ago and got a little drunk!!  I had like 5 Smirnoff Blackberry Vodkas in Cranberry Juice.  I didn;t drink anything earlier in the day so I really didn;t gain that much Monday morning but I went to dialysis with a huge hangover.  I needed that--I really did.  It was worth the hangover.  I had a great time and hung out with my family and just let loose for the first time since 1991 which was the last time I had gotten drunk.

Donna
Title: Re: I think I'm about to lose it
Post by: Adam_W on December 22, 2007, 06:04:47 PM
Grrrrrrrrrr!!!! Does this ever end!!!! I'm currently not having a very good first Christmas season as a "dialyzor". Not really anything new, just frustrations of  people not "getting it". We went to spend the evening with friends yesterday, and toward the end I was getting tired so I laid my head down on the arm of the couch, and my dad looked at me and said "hey, if I can't sleep, neither can you". He meant it in a joking way (I think), but I came within an ace of yelling at him "WELL YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO BE HOOKED TO A F--KING MACHINE TODAY NOW DID YOU!" Today I've been kind of bummed about the continuing delays in getting NxStage nocturnal dialysis, and I've just been frustrated at the comments like "Well, nocturnal dialysis isn't that important, is it" I also hate feeling so upset during a time when I'm supposed to be happy. My family still thinks there's something "wrong with me" because I choose to go to church tomorrow instead of spending the day at a party in a small cramped house filled with loud talk and shrieking laughter and me getting funny looks and laughed at because I don't stuff my f--king face with food. Christmas used to be a time for me to be happy, enjoy time with family and friends, and celebrate the birth of my Saviour. Now it seems to just be becoming a time of depression for me. Like I said in my initial post, just because I'm on NxStage, doesn't mean that little machine has eliminated my kidney failure, It's just made it a little easier to deal with. By the way, I'm taking my original thread back away from discussions of drunk women-another thing that disgusts me.

Adam
Title: Re: I think I'm about to lose it
Post by: kitkatz on December 22, 2007, 07:25:36 PM
Wow! Great rants Adam.  I went to a relative's house with my family and fell asleep on the couch for an hour. No one really said a thing about it. I guess I am lucky that way.
Title: Re: I think I'm about to lose it
Post by: okarol on December 22, 2007, 08:20:31 PM
 :cuddle; Adam  :cuddle;
Title: Re: I think I'm about to lose it
Post by: paris on December 22, 2007, 08:29:23 PM
Adam, keep on ranting. I think you are voicing how most of us feel. I know I have become very non-social and I am tired of explaining why.  We are here for you and we care :grouphug;
Title: Re: I think I'm about to lose it
Post by: angela515 on December 22, 2007, 09:02:18 PM
Sorry your going through a hard time Adam. It sounds like nobody in your immediate social circle understands your medical problems well, or your limitations you have for yourself. Have you tried setting them all down and talking to them, without yelling, and explaining in simple terms that dialysis is not a cure, and you still have every problem you had in center and yada yada and you can't do this this and this, and specify things so maybe they do understand a little better? I do understand completely that if someone is not on dialysis, they aren't always going to understand why you can't do this and this because it seems like such an easy thing to do for them, and YOU need to be understanding of that as they aren't the one's going through dialysis, they really can't comprehend what you are going through. Yelling seems to only stress you out more, in my opinion, and maybe you should try just walking away from the situation and taking a deep breath and calming down and come back and try to talk it out sometimes. I noticed in every post you used the 'I'm on dialysis and that is why I can't do it' reason everytime. Obviously if they don't understand the whole deal about dialysis and how you feel because of it, that isn't going to even be a helpful reason to make them understand.... like I said, I don't know if you have already sat them down and explained it like they are 4 yrs old, but if you haven't you should and if you have, maybe print out your rants or your exact feelings on how you feel everyday because of dialysis and just lay them everywhere and pass them out when there being ignorant. They have to one day take the hints and at least be compassionate.

 :grouphug;
Title: Re: I think I'm about to lose it
Post by: Adam_W on December 23, 2007, 06:57:32 AM
Thanks for the advise, Angela. With some people, I haven't been able to sit down and explain to them, but those seem to be the ones who understand the most. It's the ones that know more about my medical condition that seem to be the most oblivious. Fortunately, the only "yelling" I've done is on here. There have been times I've wanted to yell and cuss out loud because of my frustrations, but I restrain myself from actually doing it. I feel fine now as far as this whole issue goes, but I expect to have at least a couple instances of frustration in the next few weeks (mainly at Christmas parties). I'll do my best to explain my situation so people can understand it, and I know that these frustrating events aren't the end of the world, but they sure do suck when I'm dealing with them. I'm really glad Epoman gave us such an awesome site with awesome people to come and discuss (and rant about) this stuff.

Adam
Title: Re: I think I'm about to lose it
Post by: lola on December 23, 2007, 07:19:56 AM
Adam some people in my family act the same way at times I think at times it's denial, lets pretend it's not that bad kinda thing and it drives me crazy. :cuddle;
Title: Re: I think I'm about to lose it
Post by: KT0930 on December 23, 2007, 10:03:54 AM
Adam, although I haven't had anyone try to push me to do more than I feel I should (thank goodness!!), I do get very tired of hearing "but you look so healthy". But I'm not healthy, I need someone to give me a kidney!

I'm sorry you're having the problems you are. Go out and shoot your rifle. I've only shot one or two guns in my life, but I know what a great stress reliever it can be!

Also, a little off-topic, but Goofynina, if you really wanted to do those trips with your family, you can rent electric scooters at the parks daily. I rented one from a local company when I went to Orlando for a week in September, and it saved our vacation. I could actually spend the whole day in the parks with my family and not make us leave after two hours because I was exhausted. In Orlando it was only around $30-$40 a day.
Title: Re: I think I'm about to lose it
Post by: paris on December 23, 2007, 08:00:58 PM
MY TURN!!    Yep, I lost it tonight! Must be the holiday season.   So, today I had a party for the grandkids. It was the only time this week that all 7 could be together---divorced parents share them on Christmas Day and no on is on the same schedule.   I make brunch for everyone; sausage pinwheels, egg/ham/cheese casserole, monkey bread, pigs in blanket, fresh fruit, and lots of holiday sides (cheese, dips, etc.)  The cousins exchanged gifts, we played charades, make ornaments. We had a really good time. 7 kids under 10 can be very lively but they have such fun together.  I was tired before everyone got there, but by 7pm I was totally exhausted.  I know my family loves me, but they just can't accept the fact that I can't do it all anymore.  I want to--just can't.  My oldest daughter and 2 little ones decided to spend the night. By 9:30, they were all still up, I needed to straighten the kitchen, wrap some presents, make lists of what needs to be done tomorrow, do a load of laundry.    My daughter was frustrated that her kids weren't falling asleep and felt I wasn't supporting her frustration, so she decided to just go home.  One thing lead to another and she's upset, I am upset, AlohaBeth is in tears.  I finally lost it and said I just need people to acknowledge what is happening and stop pretending everything is fine.  So, now I am crying---my daughters are crying saying it is  too hard to talk about me not always being here. But, I need to talk about it! I need people to jump in and help. I need all of them to ask how I am, how my appointments are, what my levels are---I need people to talk about it.  My husband won't talk about it at all. The nights I can't sleep, he thinks it is because my legs hurt.  No one hears me throwing up. No one notices that even though I cook for an army, I don't want to eat any of it.  I am not strong enough to do this. I am the one they lean on-----I need to lean right now.  Sorry guys!   I know this is the only place I could go with all of this.  Tomorrow will be better.  I am not a cryer, door slammer, dish thrower; but I may become all of these!   Holidays are hard, aren't they?  Too much going on, too much to do.   Oh yeah---we all made up, apologized, said how much we love each other.  Now it is late and I can't shut my mind off.  Ambien may be my best friend tonight.  Thanks for listening and for being there.   :cuddle;
Title: Re: I think I'm about to lose it
Post by: charee on December 23, 2007, 08:05:04 PM
hang in there :cuddle;
Title: Re: I think I'm about to lose it
Post by: lola on December 23, 2007, 08:05:37 PM
 :cuddle; :cuddle; :cuddle;
Title: Re: I think I'm about to lose it
Post by: Adam_W on December 23, 2007, 08:44:00 PM
 :cuddle; Hang in there, paris. I didn't even mention all the times I've been told by my family that they "don't want to hear a thing about dialysis or kidney disease because it's hard to deal with". I sometimes feel like bursting out, "Well, it's so hard for YOU to deal with it? Try actually doing it" (I never have actually "burst out" like that, though). I haven't even been doing this a year, and there are just times when I need to talk about it. My mom said the other day that sometimes it really makes her upset when she comes into my bedroom and there I am hooked to this noisy machine. I can understand that because I do know it was hard for my family to deal with, especially with the suddenness of all this. I mean, one morning I'm getting up and getting ready for church, and I'm in the hospital before the day is out. That would be hard on anyone-patient or caregiver. But sometimes I just need to talk to someone about it. I stayed with Phurball the night before Thanksgiving, and we stayed up until 12:30 at night talking about dialysis since now we are both on it. Like we've all said at one point, no one can understand fully unless it is happening to them. I'm just glad to have a place like this where people will put up with my rants when I need to let one out. So, paris, rant all you need, because we can more than relate.  :grouphug;

Adam
Title: Re: I think I'm about to lose it
Post by: fluffy on December 25, 2007, 12:00:17 AM
Man, i know exactly how you feel, especially the not knowing how much longer you'll be around part. most people are always gonna be insensitive to things cause its impossible to understand unless youve been there. just keep hangin in there, thats what i do.
Title: Re: I think I'm about to lose it
Post by: Psim on December 26, 2007, 10:49:31 AM
I am the one they lean on-----I need to lean right now.  Sorry guys!   I know this is the only place I could go with all of this.

Don't be sorry, Paris. IHD has big shoulders and a strong back -- lean all you need to.  :cuddle; Hope things are going better today, and the meltdown has all good after-effects -- washing out stress, opening communication.
Title: Re: I think I'm about to lose it
Post by: goofynina on December 26, 2007, 11:11:46 AM
I am the one they lean on-----I need to lean right now.  Sorry guys!   I know this is the only place I could go with all of this.

Don't be sorry, Paris. IHD has big shoulders and a strong back -- lean all you need to.  :cuddle; Hope things are going better today, and the meltdown has all good after-effects -- washing out stress, opening communication.

So very true  :bow;  and that goes for EVERYONE!!!  :grouphug;  nicely said Psim ;)  :waving;
Title: Re: I think I'm about to lose it
Post by: del on December 26, 2007, 12:05:02 PM
I'm not on dialysis but my husband is.  My family don't understand that I can't visit like we used too ( They have never visited me much) .  I can't leave him to do nocturnal by himself. I just wouldn't do it.  They know nothing about dialysis and don't seem to want to.  My family lives about a 4 or 5 hour drive away and just don't understand that this is a little too far to drive and visit for one night!!!  A couple of my sister's are pissed with me I think since mom died last week. I went to see her 2 weeks ago first when she went in the hospital.  She got really sick after that and I didn't get back to see her.  Hey it is winter here and it is such a long drive.  I did drive (me and hubby) 5 hrs each way to go to her funeral. 2 of my sister's barely spoke to me.  Nobody asked me for any say in what I wanted at the funeral everyone else was asked.  After the service and a little get together at the church hall the rest of the family all went to my sister's house to open cards.  Nobody told me about it so we came on home. I found out about it the next night. I think it is all because I just couldn't go see mom anymore before she died. I would never let on to them how I feel.  Hubby says f#$% them but not always like that when its your family.   Just wanted to rant too.  It is not always the dialysis patient that has to deal with this shit but the care giver too.

 :cuddle; to all who are being treated or feeling like this.
Title: Re: I think I'm about to lose it
Post by: livecam on December 26, 2007, 01:06:21 PM
You should try not to feel so bad about all of this Del.  You are doing the right thing putting your husband and his health requirements first and if some family members don't understand or don't want to that is their choice.  These kinds of things are mighty disappointing but remember there are plenty of good people around for every family member that isn't.  You take great care of your husband and shouldn't worry about what some members of your family might say or do.
Title: Re: I think I'm about to lose it
Post by: okarol on December 26, 2007, 01:43:22 PM
I am sorry del, it's tough enough to have to grieve the loss of your mom and then to feel the lack of any compassion from your sister's is really tough. I know you were torn about going to see your mom and I really don't think it was an option. Everyone mourns differently. Perhaps that's all your family can do now. You're right, no one really understands what a caregiver goes through. Sending you love and hugs  :cuddle;
Title: Re: I think I'm about to lose it
Post by: Adam_W on December 29, 2007, 08:19:49 AM
Well, despite all the frustrations, I made it through my first Christmas on dialysis. It did go out with a bang, though. The day after Christmas, I had my clinic visit, and my blood sugar crashed when I was there (second time that has happened when I was at the clinic), and after talking to my doctor, I was diagnosed with hypoglycemia, which I know puts me at a high risk for diabetes. So, I was already stressed about that. Then I started my dialysis treatment, and I started getting alarms that I couldn't clear, so I had to terminate my treatment and prime a new cartridge so I could restart. That got me so frustrated that it didn't take much to set me off. I don't know who "threw the first punch", but I ended up getting in a very big and very loud argument with my mom. It was mainly about her level of understanding of what I go through every day. We both needed to yell, and we both needed to be yelled at, and we both felt a lot better after we cooled down. Everything has been good since then, and I hope it stays that way for a while.

Adam
Title: Re: I think I'm about to lose it
Post by: Romona on December 29, 2007, 09:34:44 AM
Glad you both feel better. Sorry you are going through such a tough time.  :grouphug;
Title: Re: I think I'm about to lose it
Post by: del on December 29, 2007, 10:16:06 AM
Helps sometimes to vent your frustrations and get everything out in the open!!