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Dialysis Discussion => Dialysis: General Discussion => Topic started by: uttanutta on September 18, 2018, 07:46:29 PM
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Does anybody else have trouble with certain food upsetting you?I made hubby five seed healthy crackers and had some,straight away felt yuk and :puke;it up.Im finding alot of whole grain food doing this is that normal?Never used to have this problem
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My wife’s throat will close up when she eats things like wheat bread or whole grain bread without other food. It causes her to gag or almost choke and sometimes want to spit. It doesn’t happen with white bread which has more gluten.
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When someone’s throat is closed up. It’s called anaphylactic allergic reactions. They need to call 911.
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Does anybody else have trouble with certain food upsetting you?I made hubby five seed healthy crackers and had some,straight away felt yuk and :puke;it up.Im finding alot of whole grain food doing this is that normal?Never used to have this problem
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I am allergic to garlic, in fact I cannot even stand to be near anyone who has eaten garlic and it has been like that through all my life.
That allergy has made going to restaurants difficult all my life, especially since these days everything is being cooked with garlic, as it is being used as a cheap preservative in most foods.
Being allergic to garlic, I have been waiting - for many years - for an explanation why garlic is so much promoted these days, especially by the food industry ... and ever doctors. Supposedly it is "good for your health", but in Europe it has hardly been known say 20-30 years ago and I wonder why all of a sudden it has become so important? If you ever read the labels of food offered in restaurants/market halls etc, you might notice, that garlic is everywhere and I don't understand....
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Do not the Italians use an amount of garlic with most tomato based dishes?
I'm pretty sure I bought garlic cloves in the markets in Germany.
OH, you meant 'Civilized' Europe. My bad.
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I have been waiting - for many years - for an explanation why garlic is so much promoted these days, especially by the food industry ... and ever doctors. Supposedly it is "good for your health".......
The reason it is promoted as being good for your health is because it IS good for your health. If you really "have been waiting - for many years - for an explanation", then I guess you live in a bubble that no medical journal can penetrate. While I sympathise with you over your allergy, complaining that a health food like garlic is promoted as a health food when you are allergic to it, is like someone with a penicillin allergy complaining that sick people get treated with penicillin.
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OH, you meant 'Civilized' Europe.
Are you saying that Britain is the civilised part of Europe? If so.....well done, you are correct! :)
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Does anybody else have trouble with certain food upsetting you?I made hubby five seed healthy crackers and had some,straight away felt yuk and :puke;it up.Im finding alot of whole grain food doing this is that normal?Never used to have this problem
Getting back to the original question: I was told to avoid food with added seeds and also whole grain products. They are high in either potassium or phosphorus (forget which). It has been suggested that your body knows if your stomach is full of something bad for you and will attempt to get rid of it as fast as possible. Could it be that this is what is happening?
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Do not the Italians use an amount of garlic with most tomato based dishes?
I'm pretty sure I bought garlic cloves in the markets in Germany.
OH, you meant 'Civilized' Europe. My bad.
Hello Charlie,
One of my best school friends from "the old days" is an indigenous Italian from Napoli and she introduced me not only to the language but she also taught me some Italian cooking and she never ever used any garlic. Mind you, she is an aristocrat, well brought up and would never ever compromise anyone with the smell of garlic.
The same goes for indigenous Germans I have met and I have never ever noticed anyone cooking there with garlic either...
Furthermore, I once heard from an Iranian gentleman, that in Iran garlic is only ever used in their food during their annual holiday which they usually enjoy on the beach. Apparently Iranian people are very conscientious about not to offend anyone with the smell of garlic ...
About my garlic allergy : If I am in a train or in a bus or anywhere else and anyone near me has been eating some food with garlic, I instantly have to find a way out and leave because the smell of garlic makes me instantly very, very sick ...
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I have been waiting - for many years - for an explanation why garlic is so much promoted these days, especially by the food industry ... and ever doctors. Supposedly it is "good for your health".......
The reason it is promoted as being good for your health is because it IS good for your health. If you really "have been waiting - for many years - for an explanation", then I guess you live in a bubble that no medical journal can penetrate. While I sympathise with you over your allergy, complaining that a health food like garlic is promoted as a health food when you are allergic to it, is like someone with a penicillin allergy complaining that sick people get treated with penicillin.
Hello Paul, I beg to differ... Have you ever wondered about the fact why garlic is promoted as being "good for your health" right now and not 10, 20 or 30 years ago or any time before that? Could there be a possibility that the cheap food offered in the shops/restaurants etc. is not of a good quality any longer and therefore, with the addition of garlic it may become more bearable to eat and perhaps a little bit more healthy?
By the way, the Queen and her family are known to avoid eating garlic at all times and they are known to always eat fresh food of the best quality... Just mentioning ... and ... could it be that they know something the general public doesn't ?
What do you think?
Best wishes from Kristina. :grouphug;
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Hi Kristina! It is all too often true that this food or that food is suddenly in the news because it has just been discovered that it is some sort of cure all! On the flip side, for years we've been told that some other food is dangerous only to be told the exact opposite decades later. A lot of such "advice" should be taken with a grain of salt.
However, we are what we eat, and fresh foods of all sorts are filled with all kinds of beneficial qualities. This is why we eat, and this is why we should eat a large variety of foods. "Food" includes herbs and spices. Many of our medicines have their origins in the natural world.
With respect to garlic, it IS known to have anti-bacterial qualities, particularly raw garlic (as nasty as that might sound). A few years ago, my husband had the beginnings of an abscess under a crown. He was NOT going to the dentist! ::) So, he took to the internet and found some information that suggested he put a clove of raw garlic on that tooth and then chew it for as long as he could stand it, at least 10 seconds if at all possible. You should have seen his face! :rofl; Anyway, believe it or not (and I was EXTREMELY skeptical), the next day the abscess had disappeared. (I've just spoken to him on the phone to confirm this.)
Personally, I would not have done this; I would have gone straight to the dentist, but this was his choice and that's what he did. It worked for him, which suggests to me that it is true that garlic does have an anti-bacterial quality.
I have read that the Queen will not eat, or have served, garlic, and I certainly understand why. She and her family have public duties and need to avoid causing offense with garlic breath.
But you are right that the quality of food in shops/restaurants can be very dodgy, and that's why they tend to be either too salty, too garlicky, too highly seasoned or too overloaded with sauce/dressing/gravy. It is always best to cook at home with ingredients that you know to be fresh. When we go out for a meal, we go to specific places where we know everything is cooked fresh.
(Tonight I'm making a chicken dish that calls for a marinade that I will be making with SIX cloves of fresh garlic!!! You'll be able to smell it from London!)
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About my garlic allergy : If I am in a train or in a bus or anywhere else and anyone near me has been eating some food with garlic, I instantly have to find a way out and leave because the smell of garlic makes me instantly very, very sick ...
I will bear this in mind!! :cuddle;
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Hi Kristina here is a link to get you quickly up to speed about garlic
https://academic.oup.com/jn/article/131/3/951S/4687053
Apparently it even increases brain power.........
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I used to have a cast iron stomach. I could eat just about anything without problems (but I never ate crappy food).
But that changed once I had to start taking phos binders. What is weird is that even though I don't need them anymore, my digestive system is still rather prissy. I used to love a good hot curry, but not so much now, which is very disappointing.
I can still eat garlic, though! LOL!
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Hello Paul, I beg to differ... Have you ever wondered about the fact why garlic is promoted as being "good for your health" right now and not 10, 20 or 30 years ago or any time before that?
Well it has been well over twenty years, but I'll accept that it has not always been said. In the same way that chemotherapy has not always been advertised as a cure for cancer, so that is probably a fake too. Oh and dialysis, that has only been commonly used to treat kidney problems for a few decades, that must be a fake too. And kidney transplants - a lot younger an idea than garlic being healthy, so they certainly must not really work.
All medicine used today is relatively new. By your logic we should either go back to using witchcraft or go back to the theory that all disease is God's punishment on sinners, so we should let them suffer and die.
And then remember many years back smoking used to be considered good for you. So did cocaine and heroin. As the theory that they are all bad for you is relatively new, perhaps we should go back to binging on these things.
Could there be a possibility that the cheap food offered in the shops/restaurants etc. is not of a good quality any longer and therefore, with the addition of garlic it may become more bearable......
No..... You have been sneakily listening to fake news haven't you? That is the only place you will find nonsense like that!
By the way, the Queen and her family are known to avoid eating garlic at all times and they are known to always eat fresh food of the best quality... Just mentioning ... and ... could it be that they know something the general public doesn't ?
OK, forget fake news, you have been reading David Ike's books again! As MooseMom said, it is to avoid causing offence due to "garlic breath" or "garlic sweat". The royal family get the best food and medical treatment money can buy, but they do not have magic information about health matters no one else knows. They are just very rich people, they are not a "super race" with an agenda and secret information.
What do you think?
I think you should try getting your medical information from proper medical journals, and stop reading mad conspiracy theory websites. We are NOT all ruled by alien lizards in human skins, the moon landing was NOT faked, the government are NOT listening to our brainwaves through our TVs, and despite your allergy, garlic is good for human beings (and many other animals).
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Getting back to the original question: I was told to avoid food with added seeds and also whole grain products. They are high in either potassium or phosphorus (forget which).
Yeah, that's phosphorus. Whole grains are Naughty because they're high in phosphorus. That's why renal patients are relegated to white bread. Ugh.
My mom was on dialysis for about 5 years, and I don't remember her having digestive trouble with any particular food, but her sense of taste seemed to change quite a lot. However, she was in her late 70s/early 80s, so perhaps that was due to age more than dialysis. Uttanutta, do you think that dialysis treatments plus all of the meds he no doubt has to take might have resulted in changes in his sense of taste/smell?
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Hello Paul, I beg to differ... Have you ever wondered about the fact why garlic is promoted as being "good for your health" right now and not 10, 20 or 30 years ago or any time before that?
Well it has been well over twenty years, but I'll accept that it has not always been said. In the same way that chemotherapy has not always been advertised as a cure for cancer, so that is probably a fake too. Oh and dialysis, that has only been commonly used to treat kidney problems for a few decades, that must be a fake too. And kidney transplants - a lot younger an idea than garlic being healthy, so they certainly must not really work.
All medicine used today is relatively new. By your logic we should either go back to using witchcraft or go back to the theory that all disease is God's punishment on sinners, so we should let them suffer and die.
And then remember many years back smoking used to be considered good for you. So did cocaine and heroin. As the theory that they are all bad for you is relatively new, perhaps we should go back to binging on these things.
Could there be a possibility that the cheap food offered in the shops/restaurants etc. is not of a good quality any longer and therefore, with the addition of garlic it may become more bearable......
No..... You have been sneakily listening to fake news haven't you? That is the only place you will find nonsense like that!
By the way, the Queen and her family are known to avoid eating garlic at all times and they are known to always eat fresh food of the best quality... Just mentioning ... and ... could it be that they know something the general public doesn't ?
OK, forget fake news, you have been reading David Ike's books again! As MooseMom said, it is to avoid causing offence due to "garlic breath" or "garlic sweat". The royal family get the best food and medical treatment money can buy, but they do not have magic information about health matters no one else knows. They are just very rich people, they are not a "super race" with an agenda and secret information.
What do you think?
I think you should try getting your medical information from proper medical journals, and stop reading mad conspiracy theory websites. We are NOT all ruled by alien lizards in human skins, the moon landing was NOT faked, the government are NOT listening to our brainwaves through our TVs, and despite your allergy, garlic is good for human beings (and many other animals).
Hello Paul,
no doubt you mean well, but I am not sure, what you are trying to convey...
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I am not sure, what you are trying to convey...
Seriously?
What I am trying to convey is that you are talking rubbish. Garlic has been seen as a "health food" at least since the 1980s, possibly longer. Most modern medical treatment has either been developed or updated since then, so if the garlic theory is too new then all medical science is too new, and you should avoid hospitals and GPs (except the really old out of date ones).
What I would guess has happened is that you were whining about your garlic allergy one day and a friend tried to cheer you up by saying something like "Never mind, much of what they say about garlic is probably untrue." And you have desperately grasped onto that as a fact, not realising it was a white lie to make you feel better.
You have then gone on to combine this "fact" with every other bit of fake news and conspiracy theory you have heard. You believe the food industry use garlic to cover up their poor quality food (not true, rubbish food sells well without garlic, they just have to sell it and people will buy it - if you don't believe me pop into Greggs and order "one of everything", you will find that nothing sets off your allergy, but you will still probably need a stomach pump after that). And you believe that the royal family have "special" knowledge that allows them to avoid garlic. This is based on one of the top five mad conspiracy theories/fake news items worldwide.
I have mentioned before that your refusal to read/watch news is putting you at risk of believing fake news when it is quoted to you by a friend or relative, but "what I am trying to convey" in these posts is that you have really outdone yourself here, you have taken two popular pieces of fake news, added one that appears to be an original creation, and combined the three of them in a web of fantasy simply because you appear to want an excuse for your allergy (you don't need one, allergies happen to many people, you don't have to explain it away).
That's "what I am trying to convey".
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I found that after I began dialysis, my taste for foods containing cumin was greatly reduced. There are others, but cumin seems to be the one that really sticks out, perhaps because it is found in most all Tex-Mex and Mexican dishes and seems to be near universal across cultures.
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well that has turned into an interesting debate on garlic!I have always thought garlic very good for you and ill stick with that.The main point of my first question was wholefoods like seeds and wholemeal dosnt sit well with me.Which i am finding very hard as im trying to support hubby who is trying to lose weight so that he can become a live donar for me,so trying to keep to healthy diet which i find hard on kidney diet.
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No Kristina, Paul is just trying to convey to you that is of supreme intelligence, otherwise known as claptrap. He is just teaching you how rude one person can be to another. He is doing very well, dont you think??
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well that has turned into an interesting debate on garlic!I have always thought garlic very good for you and ill stick with that.The main point of my first question was wholefoods like seeds and wholemeal dosnt sit well with me.Which i am finding very hard as im trying to support hubby who is trying to lose weight so that he can become a live donar for me,so trying to keep to healthy diet which i find hard on kidney diet.
I am so sorry, uttanutta! I misread your original post and thought that it was your husband who was on dialysis and was not liking the wholefoods/wholemeal crackers! My apologies.
Dialysis patients are supposed to stay away from wholemeal/whole grain foods because they are too high in phosphorus. How much weight does your hubby need to lose?
It is very nice of you to support your husband in his quest to lose weight, but a "healthy" diet for him will be very unhealthy (and even dangerous) for you. A lot of fruits and vegetables are not good choices for renal patients as they are awfully high in potassium. Again, your husband would benefit from eating an apple instead of an apple pie, but that apple could harm you (although you could peel it and eat only a slice or two).
Have you seen a renal dietician who can give you dietary advice?
As I asked before, do you think that maybe your sense of taste/smell might have changed over the years and through dialysis?
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Does anybody else have trouble with certain food upsetting you?I made hubby five seed healthy crackers and had some,straight away felt yuk and :puke;it up.Im finding alot of whole grain food doing this is that normal?Never used to have this problem
My husband's taste changed since starting dialysis. He can't stomach anything first thing in the morning so waits to eat. I found that using different seasonings helps him but sometimes he will gag and have to leave the breakfast table. He use to eat whole wheat bread but has since had to switch to white (lower phos).
As for garlic....my husband's adoptive parents are Sicilian. He says people would be very surprised at what real Italian food tastes like (not great if you aren't use to it). No garlic. Same goes for authentic Mexican food. I thought back "in the old days" people swore that if they wore garlic around their necks it would ward off the evil spirits that were causing them to feel ill. Don't know if that's true or not but I think it would definitely clear out a crowd to hang garlic about your neck. I wouldn't suggest it. But I love, love, love eating it!
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So, PT, I suppose your husband's experience adds to the evidence that people may taste food differently if they are on dialysis. That makes perfect sense to me.
I confess that I had always thought that Italian food was always infused with garlic, so thanks for telling us about real Sicilian food. That's really interesting especially since living in Chicagoland, you can't seem to find Italian food that does not include garlic as a key ingredient.
Chicagoland also has a large Mexican/Latino population, so we get a lot of really fabulous, authentic Mexican food that originates in all different areas of Mexico. And you're right...no garlic.
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Just as a side note, one of the offices I worked in for "the bank" had a customer who just adored me and no one else could help him. Wonderful except for his horrible habit of eating tons of garlic all day. He always wanted me to sit next to him in the lobby while I listened to his problems, and several times it got so bad I thought I was going to faint due to his prolicivility to eat several heads of garlic a day, PHEW!!!! Finally I transferred out to another office and I did miss that old man, but sure not his garlic.
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No Kristina, Paul is just trying to convey to you that is of supreme intelligence, otherwise known as claptrap. He is just teaching you how rude one person can be to another. He is doing very well, dont you think??
Hello Jean and many thanks for your wonderful comment, it is very much appreciated! I agree with all you have said and I thank you very much for pointing it out ...
... Some people just seem to forget that being on dialysis is all about living on borrowed time and the fact that life has become much too short to waste precious time ...
... many thanks again and I send you all my best wishes from Kristina. :grouphug;
... and many thanks to everyone who has mentioned their experiences with garlic and/or their experiences with people near them who have eaten garlic.
... Many times I was forced to urgently get out off the tube, train and/or bus because I was unlucky enough to be sitting or standing near people who had eaten garlic with no consideration to people like myself who are allergic to garlic and can't help it but become terribly sick because of the smell of it.
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Just something I have noticed is that better restaurants, not pricey or whatever just those with better food, tend to be able to balance spices, be it garlic or others. The ones that are not so good tend to be the ones who have a problem with too much of one thing or another. I know some people enjoy it, but while I like spicy, I do not like volcanic hot. You see lots of the wing joints that mistake hot for flavor.
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Absolutely. I agree with you. GA
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No Kristina, Paul is just trying to convey to you that is of supreme intelligence, otherwise known as claptrap.
I take it from this comment that you agree with Kristina and believe that all the doctors and medical journals are lying to you about garlic? Yes, it is unpleasant when someone smells of garlic, even more so if, like Kristina, you are allergic to the stuff. However that smelly person, all other things being equal, will live longer than you. Pretending the doctors and medical experts are liars will not save you, and nor will calling anyone who disagrees with your fantasy world, "rude".
It matters not one bit to me that you consider me rude, and that you and Kristina believe that the medical profession is lying to you, it is your life to do with what you like. However I object to you posting medical inaccuracies where others may read them, and damage their own health by following your misinformation. Kristina has a slight excuse in that she was probably told this by someone trying to console her over allergy (as I mentioned in a previous post), plus, as we have seen in other posts, Kristina does tend to believe fake news when told to her by a friend. But what excuse do you have? You are not allergic, you just don't like the smell. And to save yourself from the smell you are happy to post that all the details on the subject in medical journals and what doctors and dieticians tell you, is "claptrap". Please stop posting deliberate inaccuracies for your own benefit, it is not fair on those people who may believe you and suffer as a result.
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Paul have you been drinking?? I posted no deliberate inaccuracies any where.No, the claptrap is YOU!!!! I love garlic but because of my husbands sensitivities, I only use it when I am making Italian food. You twist any words any one says and then try to bring them to your snotty level. No one on this post or any other is as rude as you are. You need to go back and read posts again, you are hallucinating. Now THAT is rude!!!
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Paul have you been drinking?? I posted no deliberate inaccuracies any where.No, the claptrap is YOU!!!! I love garlic but because of my husbands sensitivities, I only use it when I am making Italian food. You twist any words any one says and then try to bring them to your snotty level. No one on this post or any other is as rude as you are. You need to go back and read posts again, you are hallucinating. Now THAT is rude!!!
I posted about the benefits of garlic, and stated that Kristina was wrong to post inaccurately that all the medical facts about garlic are probably incorrect. Your response to my post was to say that my post was "otherwise known as claptrap". How you can claim that saying a post that states "what the doctors, dieticians, and medical researchers say is true" is "claptrap" is not posting deliberate inaccuracies is beyond me.
If you cannot remember posting that, it is reply number twenty on the first page of this thread.
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No Kristina, Paul is just trying to convey to you that is of supreme intelligence, otherwise known as claptrap.
I take it from this comment that you agree with Kristina and believe that all the doctors and medical journals are lying to you about garlic? Yes, it is unpleasant when someone smells of garlic, even more so if, like Kristina, you are allergic to the stuff. However that smelly person, all other things being equal, will live longer than you. Pretending the doctors and medical experts are liars will not save you, and nor will calling anyone who disagrees with your fantasy world, "rude".
It matters not one bit to me that you consider me rude, and that you and Kristina believe that the medical profession is lying to you, it is your life to do with what you like. However I object to you posting medical inaccuracies where others may read them, and damage their own health by following your misinformation. Kristina has a slight excuse in that she was probably told this by someone trying to console her over allergy (as I mentioned in a previous post), plus, as we have seen in other posts, Kristina does tend to believe fake news when told to her by a friend. But what excuse do you have? You are not allergic, you just don't like the smell. And to save yourself from the smell you are happy to post that all the details on the subject in medical journals and what doctors and dieticians tell you, is "claptrap". Please stop posting deliberate inaccuracies for your own benefit, it is not fair on those people who may believe you and suffer as a result.
Hello Paul,
Just to remind you that Jean does not state anything inaccurate ... and it would not go a miss, if you please could use a better language, because, as it is right now, it comes over as being a bit offensive and you also seem to misconstrue what people say ...
We are all permitted to our individual opinion about everything and we must also not forget that on dialysis we are, medically speaking - whether we admit it to ourselves or not, we are on life-support and it is not very polite to be attacked on this site, which for many people in ESRF has become like a second home and I am sure that everything can be conveyed in a civilized manner. And by the way : I am the one who is wondering why garlic is - all of a sudden - very much promoted, not only by medics, but also very loudly by the food industry and that just makes me wonder a bit ...
I give you an example, why I am wondering: Because of my allergy to garlic, I always have to make sure that whenever I am in a restaurant, there is no garlic whatsoever in my food.
Last time when we were in Oxford, we went to a restaurant of a famous chef, who even instructs the government etc. on healthy food for the nation etc. and my husband and I were very surprised, that every food offered by this chef in his restaurant was cooked with garlic and when we asked about this and asked whether we could have some food cooked without any garlic, we were told that their food is always cooked elsewhere in the beginning of each week with lots of garlic and only reheated on the premises during the week for customers and - as they informed us - garlic "works" as a preservative for the offered food which is only reheated on the premises till the end of the week and in the beginning of the following week the food is cooked again in one huge kitchen elsewhere with lots of garlic, offered to customers during the oncoming week... and the cooked food with garlic as a preservative is being delivered to all of his restaurants ... They informed us that they never cook on the premises fresh food and therefore they can't offer us any food without garlic. Talk about fresh and healthy food being offered on the premises !!! And this chef teaches the nation in television shows etc. how to eat healthy !!! Not surprisingly, he had to close down six of his restaurants already... and we, for example could never ever eat in any of his restaurants because of the garlic and furthermore, it appears that the food he offers in his restaurants is not necessarily fresh either ...
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Never mind the garlic, any restaurant that willingly tells you they only reheat the food which is cooked elsewhere and then delivered should be avoided.
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I always knew that restaurants did things differently than they admit to, but this one is more than a little bit out of line. Wow, my husband is so allergic to raw onions that I am glad they have a strong smell to them. One bite and he is a goner, his throat closes up and he cant breathe. All of this is enough to keep us out of restaurants isn't it. I understand you not wanting to reveal the name of the restaurant, so I hope there are none too close to my house. Thanks Kristina.
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Last time when we were in Oxford, we went to a restaurant of a famous chef........we were told that their food is always cooked elsewhere in the beginning of each week
There are some truly bad restaurants out there, and having a famous chef fronting the establishment is no guarantee. Gordon Ramsey, for example, uses prepared food from a wholesaler (Brakes).
The thing you say about the garlic is worse than you think, because although garlic has some antiseptic qualities, it will NOT preserve it for a whole week. By the end of that time I doubt the food will be very healthy!
Just to remind you that Jean does not state anything inaccurate
No, she states that the facts are"claptrap", which is the same as stating inaccuracies.
if you please could use a better language, because, as it is right now, it comes over as being a bit offensive
Jean (and to be honest you too) are spreading fake news. If that were something harmless like, for example "President Trump is really a robot controlled by aliens" it would not matter. However, what you are both spreading is bad medical advice. Worse, you are spreading it on a trusted board. If unchallenged, people will believe you, which may screw up their health. There is no level of language that is too offensive in that situation. Other people's health are at stake.
And if you want to be fair about it, re-read Jean's posts. She jumped on this thread simply to be rude to me. You will notice her first post was "Paul is just trying to convey to you that is of supreme intelligence, otherwise known as claptrap." Not a reply to anything I said to her, she just saw an opportunity to insult me, and took it.
You are probably not aware of this, but Jean and I seriously disagreed about American politics in the political thread. Unfortunately Jean could not leave it in the politics section and trolls the board looking for posts of mine she can use to "get revenge" with unsolicited replies like this one. Normally I would accept it, there are some really childish people on the Internet, but when her trolling involves posting lies about medical matters innocent people may suffer. It would not be right for me to just leave it be.
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Hello Paul,
Jean and I are not spreading any – as you state - “fake news” (whatever that may mean), but whatever we mention or have said over the years here on IHD, has always been to the best of our knowledge plus our experiences and it surely is very obvious to everyone here on IHD that Jean and I are not medical. I am not aware that Jean or I have ever said anything that could influence anyone to avoid visiting their doctor/nephrologist and ask their questions there to make absolutely sure ... and ... furthermore, people here on IHD are much more clever than you give them credit for ...
If you are stating that Jean and I are spreading “fake news”, you are definitely lying and that is very shocking and most certainly not how a gentleman would behave.
... Furthermore, I am not aware about your “serious disagreement” with Jean about American politics and I don't read about it anyway. As a European I don’t feel like knowing enough about American politics, because first of all, I am not American and secondly I am not living in America and therefore I don’t know the intricacies about American politics and as a result of that I don't think I could really contribute to a discussion about American politics and ... furthermore ... I have never studied politics ...
Best wishes from Kristina.
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Okay all, back to food. I belief having an 'incomplete' digestive system (i.e. No or less functioning organs (be it kidneys, or the liver or something)) is very likely to effect taste or sensitivities of the whole body.
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Jean and I are not spreading any – as you state - “fake news”
Posting that garlic is probably not a health benefit.
it surely is very obvious to everyone here on IHD that Jean and I are not medical.
There are plenty of people who automatically assume that if it is posted on a respectable site like this one, it must be true. You may argue that such people are idiots, but idiots deserve to live too.
When you post here you have a serious responsibility to remember that other people will read what you post, and whatever you say, some will believe you. If you post anything even remotely medical (such as the benefits of garlic, or lack thereof) you must be sure of your facts. Similarly, if you either support or refute someone else's claims you must be equally sure of their facts. To do otherwise is unbelievably irresponsible.
Furthermore, I am not aware about your “serious disagreement” with Jean about American politics...
Didn't think you were, that is why I pointed it out (if I thought you knew, there would have been no point in mentioning it).
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Okay all, back to food. I belief having an 'incomplete' digestive system (i.e. No or less functioning organs (be it kidneys, or the liver or something)) is very likely to effect taste or sensitivities of the whole body.
Many thanks Cassandra for your kind suggestion to go back to food, it is very much appreciated.
My patience has been challenged a bit by Paul's misconstruction of what either Jean of I have been mentioning in a clear way that cannot be misconstrued, except by Paul, who seems to be determined to misconstrue ad infinitum everything we are saying and I am so grateful for your kind suggestion to go back to the original food discussion. It is very much appreciated and I thank you very much for it.
Best wishes and many thanks again from Kristina. :grouphug;
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It IS possible everyone could be right about Italian Food. Italian food actually is divided into Northern Italian and Southern Italain. The northern variety is more akin to French cooking, using a lot of butter and cream sauces that often contain more garlic than the southern Italain variety that is what many people think of when they consider Italian cuisine. The southern cooking is more the red sauce and contains less garlic than the northern cuisine.
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Has anyone found that they just "taste" food differently because of dialysis/meds? Are there specific foods that now you avoid because they don't taste as good anymore?
In a slightly different vein, I used to drink diet Dr. Pepper years ago, but when I was told I couldn't drink that any more because of phosphorus concerns, I tried other kinds of non-cola soft drinks and didn't like them. I also liked orange juice but had to give that up, too. I drank instead the occasional glass of pineapple juice.
The result of all this is that I can no longer bear ANY carbonated drinks or ANY cold drink that has even the merest hint of sugar. I haven't had a soft drink in over a decade. I drink either water or iced tea that I brew myself. I do have a teaspoon of sugar in coffee or in certain kinds of black tea, but that's it. I don't like pineapple juice anymore, either.
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I'm just the opposite MooseMom. I can't swallow any soda with no sugar, but I'm not diabetic thank goodness. I missed one ailment. As I said earlier, I used to love Mexican and Tex-Mex food, but since being on dialysis, not so much. One thing I have found that I drink as much as I am allowed is the one called Simply Fruit Punch. It is made with cherry and pineapple juices, no orange juice, which is hard to find something without orange juice or grapefruit juice, and it tastes wonderful, to me at least.
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I'm just the opposite MooseMom. I can't swallow any soda with no sugar, but I'm not diabetic thank goodness. I missed one ailment. As I said earlier, I used to love Mexican and Tex-Mex food, but since being on dialysis, not so much. One thing I have found that I drink as much as I am allowed is the one called Simply Fruit Punch. It is made with cherry and pineapple juices, no orange juice, which is hard to find something without orange juice or grapefruit juice, and it tastes wonderful, to me at least.
Oooh, that's really interesting!
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Simply Fruit Punch, huh? I will try that. Since becoming a 4th stage kidney disease person, many of my tastes have changed. I used to love Pepsi and Coke. Now, no matter how hard I try, I can not abide carbonated drinks. It'a iced tea or nothing ( well, water of course) However that Simply Fruit sounds worth a try. Thanks GA.
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funny you guys mentioned carbonated drinks i can not stand those any more so i do think your taste changes sometimes.Back to my first question about food i have since been to docs who informed me my potassium was to high hence feeling very sick.I was supporting hubby to well in his healthy eating quest to lose weight i was eating to much good food.not white crap :oops;Hard lesson learned i will stay away from nuts and seeds apart from nuts on this message board :rofl;
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Well, see, uttanutta, I consider it one of the blessings that I now have an excuse not to eat all that whole grain bread. Barbecue is meant to be eaten on white bread... its in the Bible somewhere I think.
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Barbecue is meant to be eaten on white bread... its in the Bible somewhere I think.
The BBQ Bible, most certainly! :2thumbsup;
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Well, see, uttanutta, I consider it one of the blessings that I now have an excuse not to eat all that whole grain bread. Barbecue is meant to be eaten on white bread... its in the Bible somewhere I think.
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