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Dialysis Discussion => Dialysis: General Discussion => Topic started by: Paul on May 09, 2018, 12:06:51 PM
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At the moment I am dialysing at the main hospital rather that the clinic, because of problems mentioned on a different thread. This clinic is beside their three renal wards, for inpatients who are having serious problems with their kidneys that need hospitalisation. While I was waiting for transport home a pizza delivery guy arrived with a large pizza, garlic bread, and a big bottle of drink. I thought it was for one of the staff, but a patient arrived dragging a drip stand that was feeding some drug into their arm, and collected the pizza, bread, and drink, then disappeared back into the ward.
I know (from bitter experience) that food ain't good there, but a large pizza meal with a big drink when you are in hospital? Seriously?
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I know (from bitter experience) that food ain't good there, but a large pizza meal with a big drink when you are in hospital? Seriously?
Uh yes, it could be a patient who needed a high calorie, high phosphate, high fat diet? Or a cured patient?
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Back in fall 2016 I was hospitalized for 2 weeks for a major heart attack.The problem I had was one group of doctors wanted me on a renal diet and another group wanted me on a cardIac diet. The food service handled this problem by not feeding me. Lunch and dinner were turkey sandwiches from the nurses. By the end of the third day I was willing to kill for a decent meal. I called ,Grubhub and ordered 4 pizzas. There was quite a commotion so I compromised with the nurses and was given a hospital meal. The nurses enjoyed the pizza and I was fed for the. Rest of my stay.
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Back in fall 2016 I was hospitalized for 2 weeks for a major heart attack.The problem I had was one group of doctors wanted me on a renal diet and another group wanted me on a cardIac diet.
My renal dietician said "white bread only, no whole wheat".
My cardiologist said "whole wheat only, no white bread".'
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Back in fall 2016 I was hospitalized for 2 weeks for a major heart attack.The problem I had was one group of doctors wanted me on a renal diet and another group wanted me on a cardIac diet.
My renal dietician said "white bread only, no whole wheat".
My cardiologist said "whole wheat only, no white bread".'
I hear this constantly. I just laugh and buy the 40 Carb whole wheat. Diabetics shouldn't eat White anything, even rice. But still have to remember that 'Moderation' thing.
I finally ordered a refil on my binders. Those years on PD I would once in a while have a slightly higher lab and Dr would write for binders. Pharmacy would send me two large bottle. I would add them to the stash I had accumulated. By the time I finally ended up on Hemo I had a box full. It has taken me a year and a half but I am down to under half a bottle. Who'd of thought?
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could be a patient who needed....high phosphate, high fat diet?
Renal ward, so unlikely.
Or a cured patient?
He was still on a drip. Plus the NHS cannot afford top keep "cured" patients in hospital beds. If he had been cured, he would have been sent home.
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My renal dietician said "white bread only, no whole wheat".
My cardiologist said "whole wheat only, no white bread".'
Oh yeah, I have been aware for some time that a renal diet is about as unhealthy as it possibly can be. If my kidneys don't kill me, my diet definitely will.
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could be a patient who needed....high phosphate, high fat diet?
Renal ward, so unlikely.
Or a cured patient?
He was still on a drip. Plus the NHS cannot afford top keep "cured" patients in hospital beds. If he had been cured, he would have been sent home.
Of course I should have included the :sarcasm;
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Back in fall 2016 I was hospitalized for 2 weeks for a major heart attack.The problem I had was one group of doctors wanted me on a renal diet and another group wanted me on a cardIac diet.
My renal dietician said "white bread only, no whole wheat".
My cardiologist said "whole wheat only, no white bread".'
My insurance company had one of their nurses call because of my frequent medical expenses. She was giving me recommendations on a healthy diet. She was quite shocked when I told her I wasn't supposed to eat whole wheat bread. And have to watch what veggies & fruit I eat!
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Of course I should have included the :sarcasm;
Oh yes, never assume I am going to be bright enough to "get it" unless you hang it right in front of my face and hit me over the head with a hammer to get my attention.
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Maybe the guy who ordered pizza wanted it good to
his the last drop.
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OK, my theory is that his family was visiting and ordered the pizza for themselves, then HE decided to get it just to shake the place up! :rofl; Maybe.
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VA Hospital that I go to has had a number of local eateries make deliveries.
I've used them.
And I know where the coffee grounds are hiden on all the floors so I can always get some and make a fresh pot.
Many times I will take a new can of coffee along when it is a planned admission.
I've also brought cookies for the floor Nurses. They all Love me.
Coming onto the floor I've been know to announce "Honey, I'm Home!"
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I never did it while in-center, but did contemplate a couple times ordering delivery. I asked a tech if it was allowed. She said it was, depending on the nurse!
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I was in hospital once for pneumonia. After three days of the renal cardiac diet, I was losing my grip on my sanity. I was jonesing bad for caffeine and something with some semblance of crunch. I had my husband smuggle in a small bag of Doritos and a Diet Coke and we ate them quietly literally under the cover of darkness so the nurses would assume I was asleep.
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LOL
Do you know just had it is to smoke a cigarette in the Hospital now?
Once upon a time we smokers used to Rule the World, smoking in the Dr's Office and in our Hospital beds!
Now we are lucky if we are not caught smoking in the bathroom with the fan on.
I always take extra packs of cigerettes with me. Going outside for a smoke one time the Nurse took my pack out of my pocket and said she would give them back once I came back inside, that the Security would cite me if they caught me smoking on the grounds. I told her I would make myself invisible and waved my hand in front of my face like the one wrestler does.
I went outside, walked around the parking lot and opened the second pack I keep in another pocket.
I must have remained invisible as no one even looked at me.
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Do you know just had it is to smoke a cigarette in the Hospital now?
There are two hospitals I get sent to. One is a fair distance away, but has a renal unit, I get sent there if it is anything to do with my kidneys or anything that could affect my kidney treatment. The other is nearer (used to walk there when I was fitter) so I get sent there for everything else. Unfortunately the near one is one of the worst hospitals in England.
The kidney one has a strict "No smoking anywhere on their land, inside or out" rule, the other one has a much more liberal rule:
I was at the near one a couple of years back. Three beds down from me was a junkie. He was on a drip most of the time, and in the evening would regularly walk out of hospital pushing his drip stand and head into the worst area of town to buy drugs. One day he came back with crack cocaine, asked a nurse for a spoon, then drew the curtains round his bed and used the spoon to "chase the dragon". Nurses just let him!
The maddest part was that he was on methadone, a substitute for heroin given to addicts to help them give up. This is paid for by the government and only given to you if you can convince your doctor that you are really giving up drugs (it is basically synthetic heroin that helps with the craving but is easier to ween yourself off in stages). The nurses dolled this out to him as prescribed, and still let him go out in the evening to buy drugs.
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Ahhh, I am on Methadone. Twice a day.
I've never tried Heroin, but I've done everything else you can do, short of sticking a needle in me.
I've been 'Clean' since Sept 81.
Far too many broken joints, bones, torn muscles, constant pain. 30+ years of anti-inflamatories have killed my kidneys. I rufused to take opiates, they don't do anything for the pain, make me stupid, and constipate. Alcohol could work better but I won't drink it.
Pain Dr tells me Methadone was originally developed as a pain med. I was surprised how well it works for me.
But I still smoke cigarettes. Just not the green ones any more.
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But tbose are the smokes that really help ease pain Charlie. I understand our government's thinking though. Cannot have people growing their own pain medication instead of buying the overpriced stuff from the pharma lobbyists.
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It is against the law here to smoke on hospital grounds. Here, patients, staff, and visitors alike make the long trek down the hospital drive to cross the road and get off hospital property. The windows in the dialysis unit can see this area clearly. It seems sinful to watch someone in a gown pushing an IV pole across the street to a clearing next to the river for a smoke.
As for pizza deliveries, when I was in the children's hospital in Halifax, this was a common occurrence for me. I haven't done it in the dialysis unit, but I've been tempted, especially when the nurses order theirs and sit at the desk and eat it, letting us all watch, since all the chairs face the desk
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Riki, that is downright cruel!!! :Kit n Stik;
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Back in fall 2016 I was hospitalized for 2 weeks for a major heart attack.The problem I had was one group of doctors wanted me on a renal diet and another group wanted me on a cardIac diet.
My renal dietician said "white bread only, no whole wheat".
My cardiologist said "whole wheat only, no white bread".'
... How about compromising ? ... Getting a bread-making-machine & bake your own bread & use 50% white flour plus 50% whole wheat flour ? 8)
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We had quite a few Filipino nurses at our unit and the food that they would have in their break area always smelled amazing. It did not help that my shift was 3-7 PM and I was STARVING by about 5:00 PM.
As for pizza deliveries, when I was in the children's hospital in Halifax, this was a common occurrence for me. I haven't done it in the dialysis unit, but I've been tempted, especially when the nurses order theirs and sit at the desk and eat it, letting us all watch, since all the chairs face the desk
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Bought one of those take and bake pizza's last night. I haven't tried one in at least 15 years. It is in the oven right now. I added massive amounts of cheese.
I'll take at least FOUR binders and only eat half, save the other half for another day.
No soda though.
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Riki, that is downright cruel!!! :Kit n Stik;
I think it is, yes. My father thinks I'm being overly sensitive. The reason they eat their lunch at the desk is because on the evening shift, there are 3 nurses and one DSW working, and they want to eat together. if they used their break room to eat, they'd have to go one at a time, in order for there to be enough of them on the floor in case of an emergency. My dad thinks that my wanting them to use the break room for their pizza or fast food, whatever they happen to have, and breaking their time up is taking away from their enjoyment, but my thought is, it's their place of employment, not a social club.
I told one of the nurses once that if she ever came in with Wendy's again, she'd better have an extra order of fries for me. She thought I was joking. I was not.
My mother also tells me that my father is one who doesn't seem to mind eating food in front of other people. She tells me that when they were first married and they would come home on weekends to my father's family home, they would pick up a pizza on the way. He would insist on eating it when they got to the house, in front of his younger siblings, without offering them any.