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Title: Days without Dialysis
Post by: Bajanne on April 19, 2007, 05:27:32 PM
I have run into some trouble.  I am taking my French class to St. Martin tomorrow, so I asked to have dialysis today, Thursday. Because we can't get a flight back on Sunday (as we usually do) we have to come back on Monday night, so I will be missing my dialysis on Monday and will have to have it on Tuesday.  I had asked the supervisor if I could do that, and she said it would be okay.  However, she is on holiday and when i told the nurse who is in charge about it, she said she was told nothing.
Furthermore, she thinks that this will be too many days withough dialysis, and I should have spoken with the nephro.  He is not here right now, so today the internist who fills in for him was called in to talk to me.
I suppose they want to make sure that if anything happens to me, they are in the clear.
I was warned about what could happen from missing so much dialysis.
Have any of you on hemo spent this amount of time without dialysis?  What happened?
I will be very strict with myself for those days.
Any advice?
Title: Re: Days without Dialysis
Post by: kidney4traci on April 19, 2007, 08:08:27 PM
I have gone one less day than that (Friday to Tuesday) and I was really careful with fluids and was ok for the most part.  Did feel heavy and started to feel like it was hard to breathe.  It is not something to get in the habit of though, and each person is different.  Another reason I like the idea of going on home dialysis with nxstage.  Good luck and report back and let us know how you are!
Title: Re: Days without Dialysis
Post by: brenda on April 19, 2007, 08:35:00 PM
So that's five days with no dialysis? Holy crap! Be very careful and let us know how it goes. And have fun on your trip.
Title: Re: Days without Dialysis
Post by: George Jung on April 19, 2007, 08:37:57 PM
Can you not set up a session for Saturday or Monday where you will be traveling?  What are your weight gains in between regular sessions?
Title: Re: Days without Dialysis
Post by: Bajanne on April 19, 2007, 08:53:19 PM
So that's five days with no dialysis? Holy crap! Be very careful and let us know how it goes. And have fun on your trip.
It's 4 days without dialysis - Fri, Sat, Sun, Mon.  I plan to be very careful.

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Can you not set up a session for Saturday or Monday where you will be traveling?  What are your weight gains in between regular sessions?
I will be in a totally different country.  Actually, St.Martin is a part of France (in the Caribbean).  I would have had to do lots to set that up, and it is all in a rush right now.  Over weekends (Sat, Sun) I usually gain about 3 kilos.  I am going to try my best not to go much over that.

Title: Re: Days without Dialysis
Post by: RichardMEL on April 19, 2007, 09:10:21 PM
wow! Good luick! Will have my fingers crossed for you. I've always wanted to visit St. Maarten (ok, the Dutch side :)  ) - hope it is a lovely trip... whiching you a Bon Voyage :)

Title: Re: Days without Dialysis
Post by: kitkatz on April 19, 2007, 09:26:37 PM
I have done it. Be careful and you should be alright.
Title: Re: Days without Dialysis
Post by: goofynina on April 20, 2007, 06:15:58 PM
Did she go?  Man, and i didnt get to tell her Bon Voyage,  Please Lord, let her be allright, give her the strength to be very strict with her fluids and her diet and bring her safely home to us ;)    Thank you,   Amen  ::)
Title: Re: Days without Dialysis
Post by: Bajanne on April 22, 2007, 05:25:09 AM
Thanks everyone.   Well, this is Sunday.   I had dialysis on Thur, so this would have been my normal timeframe for dialysis, but I won`t be having it until Tuesday.   I am doing well and I hope it stays this way.
What I do know is that I will never do this again if it is left to me!
Title: Re: Days without Dialysis
Post by: Rerun on April 22, 2007, 05:54:16 AM
Don't GOOOOOOOO!!!  (Just Kidding)   :cuddle;  I know you have left already.  I wouldn't do it just because I don't like feeling crappy.  Although I do dialysis every other day and feel crappy ??   ???   Watch your Potassium intake as well as fluids.  I guess I'd worry that I could learn or teach with such high toxins.

Let us know!
Title: Re: Days without Dialysis
Post by: livecam on April 22, 2007, 09:59:23 AM
The trip is already in progress but for others who might be thinking about doing this...don't!  I tried it a few times, once with my neph's blessing.  Chances are you will survive but you won't enjoy it.  There is nothing more unpleasant than being in a nice place, feeling awful, having to worry about feeling even worse, and how soon you can be dialyzed.  Even though you are watching food and fluid intake time is working against you in a case like this.
Title: Re: Days without Dialysis
Post by: goofynina on April 22, 2007, 03:23:30 PM
Thanks everyone.   Well, this is Sunday.   I had dialysis on Thur, so this would have been my normal timeframe for dialysis, but I won`t be having it until Tuesday.   I am doing well and I hope it stays this way.
What I do know is that I will never do this again if it is left to me!

Glad you are doing good Bajanne, 2 more days to go, hope you are having a good time too  :2thumbsup;
Title: Re: Days without Dialysis
Post by: Chicken Little on April 22, 2007, 07:21:56 PM
I'm glad you are doing OK. 

I was off dialysis for 6 days when I tore my peritoneum and they had to put in a temp hemo port.  It took me 9-10 hemo treatments to get back down to my dry weight, because BP doesn't cooperate.  I hope you have a better time of it.  Have fun. 
Title: Re: Days without Dialysis
Post by: kitkatz on April 22, 2007, 08:16:58 PM
I went from Thursday night to Tuesday night. It is not recommended but it can be done.  Probably by Tuesday you are going to feel it. Worn out and a little fluid overload coming on.  Take it easy Tuesday.
Title: Re: Days without Dialysis
Post by: Bajanne on April 23, 2007, 10:39:01 PM
Well, I came back home last night.  I am really feeling very well.  I expected some shortness of breath, etc., as my body coped with extra fluid, but I feel no way different.  I checked my weight on the bathroom scale, and I am no more than I would be after a normal weekend.  Of course, my bathroom scale and the scale at the unit are not friends and don't see eye to eye!
I will be going for dialysis today and I will be sure to let you all know how it went.
Thanks for all your caring thoughts.  You really make me feel that you are family!  :grouphug;
Title: Re: Days without Dialysis
Post by: Amanda From OZ on April 23, 2007, 11:22:09 PM
So glad to hear you arrived home safely and feeling well. You must of taken good care of yourself. Well done!  :2thumbsup;

Amanda
xxoo

Title: Re: Days without Dialysis
Post by: Joe Paul on April 24, 2007, 12:12:06 AM
Welcome back. Good to hear you are doing ok.
Title: Re: Days without Dialysis
Post by: Duane on April 24, 2007, 05:09:46 AM
 :2thumbsup; :clap; :grouphug;

and you thought you couldn't handle it. :yahoo;
Title: Re: Days without Dialysis
Post by: Sluff on April 24, 2007, 05:13:12 AM
Good Luck Bajanne, I hope your run goes smoothly.
Title: Re: Days without Dialysis
Post by: George Jung on April 24, 2007, 08:26:16 AM
I had missed my Saturday treatment due to some car trouble (a run-in with the law), so that is Fri, Sat, Sun, Mon, and today treatment.  I wasn't too worried but more curious as to what my gain would be.  How about 2.5 kilos!  Pat myself on the back. :)
Title: Re: Days without Dialysis
Post by: goofynina on April 24, 2007, 11:18:12 AM
Oh Bajanne, that is great, i am so glad you are feeling well, i hope your dialysis session goes well also, let us know.  :2thumbsup;

George, you go boyeee, there is no way in hell that could ever be possible for me, lol, Good Job amigo  :clap;
Title: Re: Days without Dialysis
Post by: Joe Paul on April 24, 2007, 11:54:45 AM
I had missed my Saturday treatment due to some car trouble (a run-in with the law), so that is Fri, Sat, Sun, Mon, and today treatment.  I wasn't too worried but more curious as to what my gain would be.  How about 2.5 kilos!  Pat myself on the back. :)
Thats great George, 2.5 is my average gain as well. Sorry this is off topic - I now return you to the topic at hand  ;D
Title: Re: Days without Dialysis
Post by: kitkatz on April 24, 2007, 05:21:27 PM
Great job Bajanne and George!  I would have been overweight and drowning.
Title: Re: Days without Dialysis
Post by: Wattle on April 24, 2007, 05:24:57 PM


 :clap;  Bajanne and George maybe you could give me a lesson in self-control   :P  You both did sooo well. I'm with Kit, I would have been overweight and drowning as well!

Well done... give yourselves a big pat on the back.   :cuddle;
Title: Re: Days without Dialysis
Post by: Bajanne on April 24, 2007, 05:30:21 PM
Well, folks, the results are in!  I weighed in at 3.7kg more than my dry weight.  That was not bad at all, since I am usually about that, or even more, after weekends.  I felt really good about how I got through those days, but I don't plan to do it again.
My nephrologist (who was away when I had dialysis on Thursday) got his chance today to drag me over the coals.  He asked me what would have happened if I had a fluid overload on Sunday.
Anyway, thank God, I went through it and now I am over it.  My session was quite good today.  Only I was desperately hungry after as I had no real breakfast and ate nothing before dialysis.  I'm fine now.
Thanks for all your caring thoughts and concern.   :grouphug;
Title: Re: Days without Dialysis
Post by: anja on April 24, 2007, 10:12:56 PM
Good for you , Bajanne!    :clap;    You really watched your fluids or did a whole lotta sweating...  Hope you were able to enjoy yourself, sure the class did!      ;D      You are such a dedicated teacher and I am positive you make learning FUN!!!   ;)
Title: Re: Days without Dialysis
Post by: Bajanne on April 24, 2007, 11:39:47 PM
Thanks again to all!  The thing that I feared most was the possibility of cramping, but thank goodness, that didn't happen.  Just as I was being taken of the machine, one leg started to want to cramp, but as my lines were disconnected, I was able to stand a little and it quickly wore off.  I am so scared of cramping.  I rate it as the worst thing I have to deal with in dialysis.
Title: Re: Days without Dialysis
Post by: Duane on April 26, 2007, 12:17:10 PM
 :2thumbsup; :clap; :grouphug;







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Title: Re: Days without Dialysis
Post by: stauffenberg on April 26, 2007, 12:39:29 PM
Because dialysis has to be paid for privately in the Philippines, where almost no one has private health insurance and the people are very poor, most dialysis patients can only afford dialysis once a week!  As a result, they all look deathly ill all the time; most cannot walk by themselves and have to be loaded from their wheelchair into the hospital bed; and their skin turns a sickly, dark-green color.  But still, they do survive, though usually not for very long.  The nephrologists in the Philippines could not tell me how long they can survive that way, since all the patients run out of money to pay for treatment long before they reach the limit of their natural life expectancy under those circumstances. Incredibly, the price the nephrologists charge these people for each treatment they receive in the dialysis clinics which the doctors own includes a good profit margin as return for their investment.  As a result, the time of death of the patients is accelerated considerably by the need of the doctors, bound as they are by the Hippocratic Oath to sacrifice themselves for their health of their patients, to get rich.
Title: Re: Days without Dialysis
Post by: Bajanne on April 26, 2007, 11:38:57 PM
That was so sad to read.  And here was my nephrologist chiding me for missing my treatment, and it makes no difference to his salary whether I dialyse or not.  I need to be more thankful about the situation in which I find myself.  If I didn't have insurance, dialysis would be free for me here - that is the policy.  And there is no difference in the treatment of those with insurance and those without.