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Title: Well, well, reasons to be stupid (?)
Post by: cassandra on January 23, 2017, 11:33:00 AM
Cognitive function and advanced kidney disease: longitudinal trends and impact on decision-making
Osasuyi Iyasere  David Okai  Edwina Brown
Clin Kidney J (2017) sfw128. DOI: https://doi.org/10.1093/ckj/sfw128
Published: 07 January 2017  Article history

Background: Cognitive impairment commonly affects renal patients. But little is known about the influence of dialysis modality on cognitive trends or the influence of cognitive impairment on decision-making in renal patients. This study evaluated cognitive trends amongst chronic kidney disease (CKD), haemodialysis (HD) and peritoneal dialysis (PD) patients. The relationship between cognitive impairment and decision-making capacity (DMC) was also assessed.

Methods: Patients were recruited from three outpatient clinics. Cognitive function was assessed 4-monthly for up to 2 years, using the Montreal Cognitive Assessment (MoCA) tool. Cognitive trends were assessed using mixed model analysis. DMC was assessed using the Macarthur Competency Assessment tool (MacCAT-T). MacCAT-T scores were compared between patients with cognitive impairment (MoCA <26) and those without.

Results: In total, 102 (41 HD, 25 PD and 36 CKD) patients were recruited into the prospective study. After multivariate analysis, the total MoCA scores declined faster in dialysis compared with CKD patients [coefficient = −0.03, 95% confidence interval (95% CI) = −0.056 to − 0.004; P = 0.025]. The MoCA executive scores declined faster in the HD compared with PD patients (coefficient = −0.12, 95% CI = −0.233 to − 0.007; P = 0.037). DMC was assessed in 10 patients. Those with cognitive impairment had lower MacCAT-T compared with those without [median (interquartile range) 19 (17.9–19.6) versus 17.4 (16.3–18.4); P = 0.049].
Conclusions: Cognition declines faster in dialysis patients compared with CKD patients and in HD patients compared with PD patients. Cognitive impairment affects DMC in patients with advanced kidney disease.
chronic kidney disease, cognitive impairment, decision-making capacity, dialysis, executive function
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This observational study assessed cognitive trends in patients with advanced kidney disease. It showed that cognitive function declines faster in dialysis patients as compared with chronic kidney disease (CKD) patients, with executive function declining faster in haemodialysis (HD) compared with peritoneal dialysis (PD) patients. Cognitive impairment affects decision-making capacity (DMC) in patients with advanced kidney disease.

Introduction

Older people are the fastest growing cohort on dialysis. Although cognitive impairment is more common in patients with CKD than in the general population, it remains poorly recognized clinically. The REasons for Geographic and Racial Differences in Stroke (REGARDS) Study, reported an 11% increase in the risk of cognitive impairment for every 10 mL decrease in estimated glomerular filtration rate (eGFR) below 60 mL/min/1.73 m2 with a 20% prevalence in those with eGFR <20 mL/min/1.73 m2 [1]. In the HD population, the prevalence of cognitive impairment approached 70% in one cross-sectional study, but only 2.9% of the studied population had a prior clinical diagnosis [2]. Similar prevalence rates have been reported in patients on PD [3]. Executive function has been shown to be the predominant cognitive domain affected. It is often impaired before global cognitive dysfunction becomes apparent [4].

Although cerebrovascular disease is thought to underpin cognitive impairment in patients with advanced kidney disease, a complex interaction between vascular-, nephrogenic- and dialysis-related factors has been proposed as a pathogenetic basis [5]. The potential role for dialysis in cognitive impairment is supported by transient changes in cognition that occur during dialysis [6] and improvements in cognitive deficits after transplantation [7, 8]. Yet, direct comparisons between predialysis and dialysis patients are lacking. The influence of dialysis modality on cognitive function is also unclear. A large retrospective study of 121 623 patients found that those on PD had a lower 5-year cumulative risk of dementia compared with those on HD [9]. Small cross-sectional studies have, however, reported similar cognitive performances in HD and PD patients [10]. Prospective studies that evaluate variation in longitudinal cognitive trends between dialysis modalities are lacking.

Cognitive impairment is associated with adverse outcomes, not least of which includes an impaired capacity to make decisions. Terawaki et al., in a pilot study of 26 patients with CKD 5, evaluated capacity to consent to treatment and cognitive function using the Macarthur Competency Assessment Tool (MacCAT-T) and the MiniMental State Examination (MMSE), respectively. They reported poor performances in the domains of understanding, reasoning and appreciation. In addition to expression of choice, these are recognized as the four domains of DMC. These poor performances were attributed to attentional deficits found after the MMSE [11]. The specific influence of executive dysfunction, commonly affected in renal patients, on DMC has not been evaluated.

This observational study aimed to compare cognitive trends between dialysis and CKD patients and subsequently between HD and PD patients. The relationship between cognitive impairment and DMC was also evaluated.

Materials and methods

Patients were recruited from three outpatient clinics (one HD, one PD and one CKD) at Imperial College Healthcare NHS trust, between November 2013 and October 2015. Ethical approvals were obtained from the West of Scotland and London – Fulham Research Ethics Committees: reference 13/WS/0241 and 14/LO/2223. All participants gave written informed consent.

Patient selection and recruitment

The study cohort was obtained based on convenience sampling. It consisted of patients who were enrolled into a prospective cohort study assessing cognitive trends and a small group of patients who participated in a pilot study assessing DMC. For the prospective cohort study, eligible patients were over 55 years of age and free from hospital admission for at least 30 days. Eligible dialysis patients had a vintage of at least 3 months, while CKD patients had an eGFR ≤30 mL/min/1.73 m2. Patients with a life expectancy of <6 months, significant cognitive impairment as well as those unable to understand English, were excluded from the study. The selection criteria were the same for those participating in the decision-making pilot, except for a lower age threshold of over 40 years.

Study assessment

Study assessments were performed at routine clinic visits in the outpatient department, usually after patients' clinical assessment. For the HD patient, these clinic visits coincided with their mid-week dialysis sessions, prior to the start of dialysis. For those enrolled in the prospective cohort study, follow-up assessments were carried out at subsequent clinic visits, every 4 months for up to 2 years.

Demographic and clinical characteristics were collected at baseline, from medical records and during the assessment. Comorbidity burden was evaluated using the Stoke–Davies comorbidity score [12]. This is a validated score that assigns a value of 1 for the presence of each of the following: diabetes mellitus, ischaemic heart disease, peripheral vascular disease, left ventricular dysfunction, malignancy, systemic collagenous vascular disorders and other diagnoses that impact on survival.

‘Cognitive function’ was assessed using the Montreal Cognitive Assessment (MoCA). It assesses cognitive function in seven domains with scores ranging from 0 to 30. It has advantages over the widely used MMSE. This is because it assesses executive function, a domain that is commonly affected in patients with CKD. It has been shown to be sensitive to changes in cognition in patients on dialysis. A score <26 is suggestive of cognitive impairment, although a cut-off of 24 has been suggested for HD patients [13].

The Patient Health Questionnaire-9 (PHQ-9) was used to evaluate depressive symptoms. It is a 9-item questionnaire that evaluates symptoms of depression over the preceding 2 weeks. Scores range from 0 to 27, with higher scores indicative of more severe depression [14]. A score above 5, 10 and 15 are indicative of mild, moderate and severe depression, respectively.

MacCAT-T was used to evaluate capacity to consent to treatment as a surrogate for decision-making abilities. This semi-structured interview, which is considered to be the gold standard for assessing capacity to consent, was administered by a trained researcher. The interview was based on proposed treatment options discussed at the preceding clinic visit. The four recognized domains of mental capacity (understanding, appreciation, reasoning and expression of choice) were evaluated. The MacCAT-T is not designed to provide a no cut-off score that designates a lack of capacity. Rather, it assists with what is ultimately a clinical judgement.

Statistical analysis

All analyses were carried out using the SPSS programme (version 22). Continuous variables were expressed as mean and standard errors (SE) for parametric data, and as median and interquartile ranges (IQR) for non-parametric data. Categorical variables were expressed as percentages.

In the prospective cohort study, the baseline cognitive scores were compared between the HD, PD and CKD cohorts, using the Kruskal–Wallis and Fisher’s exact tests where appropriate. Generalized linear mixed model (GLMM) analysis was used to evaluate changes in cognitive scores over time. The outcome variables of interest were the MoCA score and the MoCA executive score, respectively. As the cognitive scores followed a skewed distribution, a gamma error structure was used. Multivariable models were used to compare cognitive trends first between the dialysis and CKD cohorts and subsequently between the HD and PD cohorts.

To evaluate influence of cognitive function on decision-making in patients with advanced kidney disease, the median MacCAT-T scores were compared between patients with cognitive impairment and those without, using the Mann–Whitney test. Patients were deemed to have cognitive impairment if the MoCA score was <26. Spearman’s correlation was used to evaluate the relationship between the cognitive domains assessed by MoCA and the four MacCAT-T domains.

Results

In total, 198 patients were eligible for the prospective cohort study at baseline. A total of 39 patients refused consent (19.6%), 16 moved out of area (8.1%), 9 patients were transplanted (4.5%), 11 patients died prior to enrolment (5.6%) and 1 patient was discharged from clinic (0.5%). In total, 20 patients could not be approached due to lack of regular clinic attendance; 102 patients were eventually recruited; 10 other patients participated in the pilot interviews, assessing cognitive function and the capacity to consent to treatment.

Of the 102 participants, 41 were on HD, 25 on PD and 36 were CKD patients. The median follow-up period was 12 months (interquartile range (IQR) 6–18 months).

Patient characteristics

Table 1 shows the baseline characteristics for the study cohort. The case mix was similar between study participants and non-participants, in terms of age, gender and ethnicity. The HD cohort had longer dialysis vintage compared with the PD (P < 0.001). There was also a trend towards a lower mean age in the HD cohort (P = 0.068). The study cohort was predominantly male (70%) and 72.5% of the study cohort had been educated for at least 12 years. There were no significant differences in gender, ethnicity or level of education between HD, CKD and PD participants. For the CKD group, the mean baseline eGFR was 17 ± 0.9 mL/min/1.73 m2. The eGFR did not change significantly during follow-up [estimated change in eGFR/year = −1.2 (−6.9 to 4.7); P = 0.45].

Table 1
Demographic details for study cohort
Demographic characteristics    HD (n = 41)    PD (n = 25)    CKD (n = 36)    P-valuea
Mean age in years (± SE)b    68.9 ± 1.3    72.8 ± 1.6    72.5 ± 1.5    0.068
Age range (years)c (%)                
 55–64    34.1    16.0    16.7    
 65–74    36.6    44.0    44.4    0.212
 75–84    29.3    28.0    27.8    
 >85    0.0    12.0    11.1    
Male genderc (%)    70.7    76.0    63.9    0.587
Ethnicityc (%)                
 White European    39    64    33.3    
 Afro-Caribbean    14.6    8    13.9    
 Asian    43.9    24    52.8    0.216
 Other    2.4    4    0.0    
Years of educationc (%)                
 0–6    5.6    0.0    5.0    
 6–12    33.3    0.0    30.0    0.219
 >12    61.1    100.0    65.5    
Months on dialysis [median (IQR)]d    35 (15.5–60)    8 (5–32)    0    <0.001
Cause of renal failure (%)c                
 Diabetic nephropathy    24.4    40.0    63.9    0.197
 Glomerulonephritis    26.8    20.0    5.6    
 ADPKD    7.3    4.0    2.8    
 RVD    2.4    12.0    5.6    
 Tubulointerstitial disease    7.3    8.0    2.8    
 Unknown    22.0    16.0    13.9    
 Other    6.8    0.0    5.4    
Comorbiditiesc (%)                
 Diabetes    46.3    44    66.7    0.120
 IHD    46.3    40    50    0.742
 PVD    17.1    32.0    22.2    0.371
 LV dysfunction    9.8    16.0    13.9    0.737
 Malignancy    7.3    8.0    2.8    0.612
 Collagen vascular disorder    19.5    4.0    8.3    0.121
Stoke comorbidity score [median (IQR)]d    2 (1–3)    1 (1–2)    2 (1–2)    0.402
ADPKD - Autosomal Dominant Polycystic Kidney Disease; RVD - Renovascular disease; IHD - Ischaemic Heart Disease; PVD - Peripheral Vascular Disease; LV - Left Ventricular
a
Compares HD, PD and CKD cohorts.
b
ANOVA.
c
Fisher’s exact test.
d
Kruskal–Wallis test.
The prevalence of diabetes and ischaemic heart disease in the cohort was 53% and 46%, respectively. Diabetic nephropathy was the most common cause of renal failure (57%). The comorbidity burden did not differ significantly between HD, PD and CKD participants.

Baseline study measures

Overall, 60.5% of the study cohort met the criterion for cognitive impairment (MoCA score <26), while 19.6% met the criteria for depression (PHQ-9 >9). Totally, 24% of those with cognitive impairment also met the criteria for depression. There were no significant differences in cognitive or depression scores at baseline, between the HD, PD and CKD cohorts (Table 2).

Table 2
Baseline outcome measures
Outcome measures    HD    PD    CKD    P-value
MoCA score    23 (20–27)    24 (23–27)    25 (23–27)    0.774
MoCA <26 (%)    63.6    64.3    53.8    0.831
MoCA subscales, median (IQR)
 Executive function    4 (3–4)    3 (3–4)    4 (2–4)    0.902
 Naming    3 (2–3)    3 (2–3)    3 (2–3)    0.838
 Memory    3 (1–3)    2 (1–3)    3 (2–3)    0.906
 Orientation    6    6    6    0.653
 Attention    5 (4–6)    6 (5–6)    6 (5–6)    0.397
 Language    3 (2–3)    3 (2–3)    3 (3–3)    0.102
Median PHQ-9 (IQR)    5.5 (3–9)    7 (3–10)    8 (2–10)    0.275
PHQ-9 ≥10 (%)    21.1    30.4    11.1    0.182
Effect of dialysis on cognitive trends

GLMM analysis was used to compare changes in the total MoCA score over time between dialysis and CKD patients. In univariate analysis, age, ethnicity and years of education were significantly associated with the MoCA scores, while comorbidities, dialysis vintage and laboratory parameters were not. After adjusting for these variables, the total MoCA scores declined faster in the dialysis cohort compared with CKD (coefficient = −0.03; P = 0.025; Table 3). Figure 1 shows the profile plot of estimated MoCA scores over time using the model in Table 3. There was no significant difference in the rate of change of the MoCA executive score between the dialysis and CKD cohorts (coefficient = −0.07; P = 0.10).

Fig. 1
Longitudinal change in total MoCA scores [dialysis (solid line) versus CKD (dashed line)].
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Longitudinal change in total MoCA scores [dialysis (solid line) versus CKD (dashed line)].
Fig. 2
Longitudinal trends in executive function [HD (solid line) versus PD (dashed line)].
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Longitudinal trends in executive function [HD (solid line) versus PD (dashed line)].
Table 3
GLMM- Dialysis vs CKD
Outcome variable—total MoCA score dialysis versus CKD (n = 102)
 
Predictors    Coefficient    95% CI (lower–upper)    P-value
Age    −0.005    −0.008 to − 0.001    0.013
Ethnicity            
 White European    0.168    −0.061 to 0.397    0.145
 Afro-Caribbean    0.014    −0.266 to 0.255    0.905
 Asian    0.168    −0.132 to 0.328    0.396
<12 years of education    −0.027    −0.102 to 0.048    0.496
Time    −0.020    −0.001 to 0.042    0.060
Dialysis versus CKD    −0.009    −0.080 to 0.063    0.808
Dialysis* time    −0.030    −0.056 to −0.004    0.025
CKD* time (reference)            –
CI, confidence interval.
Effect of dialysis modality on cognitive trends

To compare cognitive trends between HD and PD, the mixed model analysis was repeated in the dialysis cohort (n = 66; HD = 41, PD =25), adjusting for age, ethnicity, years of education and dialysis vintage. There was no significant difference in the rate of change in the total MoCA scores between PD and HD patients. The MoCA executive score did, however, decline more rapidly in the HD patients compared with PD patients (Table 4, Figure 2), after adjusting for the same variables.

Table 4
Generalized linear model—HD versus PD
Outcome variable—MoCA executive function HD versus PD (n = 76)
 
Predictors    Coefficient    95% CI (lower–upper)    P-value
Age    −0.014    −0.025 to − 0.004    0.010
Ethnicity            
 White European    −0.448    −0.153 to 1.048    0.138
 Afro-Caribbean    −0.401    −0.262 to 1.064    0.227
 Asian    −0.400    −0.194 to 0.994    0.179
<12 years of education    −0.056    −0.326 to 0.214    0.678
Months on dialysis    −0.002    −0.004 to −0.001    0.009
HD versus PD    0.112    −0.104 to 0.329    0.302
Time    0.013    −0.008 to 0.114    0.796
HD* time    −0.120    −0.233 to −0.007    0.037
PD* time (reference)    –        –
CI, confidence interval.
Cognitive function and DMC in renal disease

In total, 10 patients participated in a pilot study evaluating the relationship between cognitive function and DMC. This cohort consisted of five PD, three CKD and two HD patients. All patients were of male gender with a mean age of 54.3 years; seven patients had a degree of cognitive impairment (MoCA <26).

The patients with cognitive impairment had significantly lower total MacCAT-T scores compared with those with normal cognitive function [median (IQR) 19 (17.9–19.6) versus 17.4 (16.3–18.4); P = 0.049]. There was also a trend towards lower scores in the reasoning domain of the MacCAT-T test in those with cognitive impairment [6.0 (5.0–6.5) versus 7.5 (6.3–8.0); P = 0.071]. There were no differences in scores related to understanding [5.8 (5.5–6.0) versus 5.9 (5.6–6.0); P = 0.51], appreciation [4.0 (3.8–4.0) versus 4.0 (4.0–4.0)] or expression of choice [2.0 (1.5–2.0) versus 2.0 (1.3–2.0)] between patients with cognitive impairment and those with normal cognitive function. There was also no significant correlation between the four domains of the MacCAT-T [understanding (r = −0.13; P = 0.71), reasoning (r = 0.32; P = 0.37), appreciation (r = 0.36; P = 0.34), expression of choice (r = −0.19; P = 0.60)] and executive function.

Discussion

In this study, we hypothesized that dialysis would be associated with a decline in cognitive function compared with CKD patients. The results suggest that global cognitive function declines over time for patients on dialysis compared with CKD patients. We had also anticipated that cognitive function would be better preserved in patients on PD compared with those on HD. Global cognitive trends did not differ between the HD and PD cohorts. However, executive function was better preserved over time in the PD group compared with those on the HD.

It is well recognized that the risk of cognitive impairment increases as renal function declines [15, 16]. In addition, several studies have shown that cognitive performance is poorer in dialysis patients compared with that in matched healthy controls [2]. Dialysis potentially exerts an independent effect on cognitive function in patients with advanced CKD. This is supported by the improvement in cognitive function in dialysis patients following transplantation [8]. Dialysis is thought to affect cognitive function by a variety of mechanisms. However, supportive evidence for these mechanisms is limited. Observational studies have so far failed to show an association between cognitive function and small solute clearance [17] or dialysis frequency [18]. Data on the influence of intradialytic hypotension (IDH) on cognition are conflicting. Kurella et al. found no significant relationship between IDH and cognitive impairment in HD patients enrolled in the Frequent Haemodialysis Network (FHN) trial [4]. More recently, IDH has been directly linked with ischaemic brain injury and potentially, cognitive impairment in HD patients [19].

The faster decline in executive function in HD patients compared with that in PD reported in this study is noteworthy, despite the lack of significant differences in global cognitive trends. It is consistent with studies reporting a lower cumulative incidence of dementia (predominantly vascular in origin) in PD compared with HD patients [9]. Kurella Tamura et al. reported a 19% prevalence of isolated executive dysfunction (executive dysfunction despite normal global cognitive function) in a cross-sectional study of 383 HD patients [4]. It is therefore plausible that a decline in executive function predates global cognitive decline. HD has been shown to exert injurious ischaemic effects on the brain. These features are far less common in PD patients and may explain the differences reported in this study.

Patients who met the criteria for cognitive impairment (MoCA score < 26) had lower capacity assessment scores. In Terawaki et al.’s study of 26 predialysis patients [11], attentional deficits in MMSE correlated significantly with poor understanding and reasoning evaluated by MacCAT-T. While cognitive function was linked with MacCAT-T scores in broad terms, there were no associations between specific cognitive domains and the four domains assessed by MacCAT-T. The mean scores were lower in Terawaki et al.’s study compared with those in this pilot study (understanding—3.72 ± 1.11 versus 5.76 ± 0.08, appreciation—2.88 ± 0.88 versus 3.88 ± 0.11, reasoning—4.30 ± 2.11 versus 6.44± 0.41). The exclusion of patients with significant cognitive impairment may have contributed to these differences. In addition, the sample was too small to detect significant associations. The results may have been confounded by patient characteristics as the participants were all male and predominantly on PD.

There are other noteworthy limitations. The study was single centre and observational in nature. As such, causality cannot be established and the findings are unlikely to be generalizable. The sample size was not determined by a power calculation. Due to convenience sampling, one cannot exclude the possibility of selection bias. In addition, the effect estimates from the mixed model analysis were small. Longer follow-up would be required to detect clinically important differences in the cognitive trends.

Nevertheless, the findings suggest that dialysis and possibly dialysis modality exert an influence on cognitive function. Future research should aim to identify dialysis techniques that minimize the effect on cognitive function. For example, a recent randomized clinical trial in HD patients has shown that dialysate cooling may reduce the burden of white matter disease [20]. As white matter disease has been recently linked with cognitive impairment [19], dialysate cooling may be beneficial for cognitive function in HD patients. There is also a role for regular screening in dialysis patients, to identify and investigate otherwise unrecognized cognitive impairment. There are implications for treatment compliance and with severe impairment, daily functioning. The potential impact of cognitive impairment on DMC is also relevant to clinical practice. Dialysis education could be adapted to ensure understanding in affected patients and family members. There is also a role for advance care planning in patients with significant cognitive impairment.

In summary, this study suggests that cognitive function declines faster in dialysis patients compared with similar patients with advanced CKD not on dialysis and more so in HD patients compared with those on PD. Cognitive impairment has an impact on DMC in patients with advanced kidney disease. Larger studies are needed to corroborate these findings. Meanwhile, cognitive screening should be incorporated into routine clinical practice in patients with advanced kidney disease.

Acknowledgements

The authors would like to thank the following contributors: Andrew Frankel, Imperial College Renal and Transplant Centre, Hammersmith Hospital, UK; Jeremy Levy, Imperial College Renal and Transplant Centre, Hammersmith Hospital, UK; Emma Tonkins, Imperial College Renal and Transplant Centre, Hammersmith Hospital, UK.

Conflict of interest statement

The results presented in this article have not been published previously in whole or part, except in abstract format. E.B. has received speaker honoraria and research funding from Baxter Healthcare. All other authors have declared no conflict of interest.

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Title: Re: Well, well, reasons to be stupid (?)
Post by: cassandra on January 23, 2017, 11:43:27 AM


   :waiting;         Too much information  ;D
Title: Re: Well, well, reasons to be stupid (?)
Post by: willowtreewren on January 23, 2017, 12:07:18 PM
I skimmed through it....

Interested because Carl and I were just talking about the year just prior to his transplant. He commented that he wasn't doing too well cognitively at that time.  >:(

And he was even on daily dialysis with NxStage. This disease is just horrible. And invisible.

Aleta
Title: Re: Well, well, reasons to be stupid (?)
Post by: PrimeTimer on January 23, 2017, 02:30:22 PM
I wonder how much that stress plays a role in this. I'm not on dialysis but any time I am stressed out I find it a little harder to think clearly. I imagine being on dialysis (hemo or pd) causes people stress and whether a little or a lot, I also imagine it can affect their thinking. I also think illness just in itself affects our thinking.
Title: Re: Well, well, reasons to be stupid (?)
Post by: MooseMom on January 23, 2017, 02:52:22 PM
I agree with you, Prime Timer, and find it interesting that this study did not consider the effect that stress can have on cognitive function.

So, if I have this right, cognitively speaking you are screwed if you are on dialysis and even more screwed if you are on HD instead of PD.
Title: Re: Well, well, reasons to be stupid (?)
Post by: PrimeTimer on January 23, 2017, 07:26:08 PM
I agree with you, Prime Timer, and find it interesting that this study did not consider the effect that stress can have on cognitive function.

So, if I have this right, cognitively speaking you are screwed if you are on dialysis and even more screwed if you are on HD instead of PD.

And for people on dialysis there is not only mental fatigue and stress but the body is being stressed and traumatized (needles, sitting long hours in treatment chairs, blood pump speeds, etc). I would think needles cause a fair amount of injury to skin and tissue, especially from frequent use and therefore, causing inflammation or cells or enzymes that produce inflammation to leak into the bloodstream. I can definitely see how this could affect a person over the long term. How could it not...I hate what my husband has to endure but thankful he chooses to hang in there for us.
Title: Re: Well, well, reasons to be stupid (?)
Post by: Jean on January 23, 2017, 10:39:23 PM
             







                                     WHAT??????
Title: Re: Well, well, reasons to be stupid (?)
Post by: Charlie B53 on January 24, 2017, 05:35:50 AM

So, if I have this right, cognitively speaking you are screwed if you are on dialysis and even more screwed if you are on HD instead of PD.

I think MooseMom pretty well summed it up.     It's just a matter of time, for all of us.  Other than our Caretakers.
Title: Re: Well, well, reasons to be stupid (?)
Post by: solid98 on January 24, 2017, 08:07:04 AM
Can't decide if I want to read all that or not. :rofl;
Title: Re: Well, well, reasons to be stupid (?)
Post by: LorinnPKD on January 24, 2017, 09:16:50 AM
 :)

Here's the summary:

In summary, this study suggests that cognitive function declines faster in dialysis patients compared with similar patients with advanced CKD not on dialysis and more so in HD patients compared with those on PD. Cognitive impairment has an impact on DMC in patients with advanced kidney disease. Larger studies are needed to corroborate these findings. Meanwhile, cognitive screening should be incorporated into routine clinical practice in patients with advanced kidney disease.

Thank you for posting this, cassandra!  I asked my doctor, dietician, and social worker about this late last year and there really isn't a lot of information on it, so I'm glad there's starting to be some study in this direction. 

Title: Re: Well, well, reasons to be stupid (?)
Post by: MooseMom on January 24, 2017, 09:59:42 AM

And for people on dialysis there is not only mental fatigue and stress but the body is being stressed and traumatized (needles, sitting long hours in treatment chairs, blood pump speeds, etc). I would think needles cause a fair amount of injury to skin and tissue, especially from frequent use and therefore, causing inflammation or cells or enzymes that produce inflammation to leak into the bloodstream. I can definitely see how this could affect a person over the long term. How could it not...I hate what my husband has to endure but thankful he chooses to hang in there for us.

Exactly.  You're absolutely spot on!  And your husband is lucky to have you!
Title: Re: Well, well, reasons to be stupid (?)
Post by: cattlekid on January 24, 2017, 11:06:41 AM
Having spent 9 months on in-center dialysis and 18 months on home hemodialysis (short daily) and experiencing the difference in cognitive function between that time and post-transplant, I don't know how I managed to get to work every day while I was on dialysis.  Everything was just so much *clearer* post-transplant and my short-term memory improved 1000% percent.
Title: Re: Well, well, reasons to be stupid (?)
Post by: smartcookie on January 24, 2017, 11:08:16 AM
From what I can see in my practice, the cognitive decline is mostly seen in adults 70+ and mostly in patients who do not complete their full treatments or miss treatments.  That being said, not working or going to school can be detrimental cognitively if the person is not proactive in reading and keeping up cognitive skills.  I have patients that are in their 80's and sharp as a tack due to reading every day, watching the news, doing word puzzles, etc.  Mental health also plays a huge role.  Patients who are depressed or anxious are going to decline cognitively due to stress, just as Primetimer and Moose Mom stated.  In my mind, the patients who take care of themselves physically, mentally and emotionally are going to do better overall. 
Title: Re: Well, well, reasons to be stupid (?)
Post by: MooseMom on January 24, 2017, 12:17:14 PM
Smartcookie, in your practice, what treatments are discussed with those patients whose mental and emotional health have been negatively impacted by dialysis?

I am speculating that your older patients who are still "sharp as a tack" because they read or do word puzzles also probably do not suffer from depression.  Would that be right?

Dialysis does not occur in a vacuum.  Maybe the older patients who experience cognitive decline also have a sick spouse or maybe no spouse or support group at all and are therefore more prone to emotional difficulties.

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Post by: smartcookie on January 24, 2017, 12:47:39 PM
I assess the patients using the Kidney Disease Quality of Life Survey. https://kdqol-complete.org/  The scores report includes way to increase scores and help the patient overcome difficulties of the physical and mental burdens of kidney disease as well as the effects, burdens and symptoms of kidney disease.  I use those plus I select patients that I council weekly.  These weekly discussions include things like depression screenings, grief counseling, treatment education, cognitive behavioral therapy, medication therapy and such.  I try to use things like active listening, normalizing of feelings, venting emotions, teaching healthy coping mechanisms, etc.  If it is beyond my scope of practice, I will send someone out for major depressive disorder or schizophrenia.  I mainly deal with situational depression and anxiety.  Some of my patients who are sharp as a tack have some situational depression or are on an antidepressant that helps even out their moods.  You are absolutely right that dialysis does not happen in a vacuum.  Every dialysis patient is going to experience some sort of emotional difficulty at some point in their dialysis "career."  I try to be there for the patients as best I can.
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Post by: MooseMom on January 24, 2017, 02:12:24 PM
Thanks for your interesting reply, smartcookie.

I was fortunate enough to receive a pre-emptive cadaveric transplant.  During my pre-dialysis years, I struggled mightily with depression, anxiety and fear.  The more educated about dialysis I became, the more fearful I became, and to be honest, I don't think I ever discovered a truly effective coping mechanism, and I tried everything from hypnotherapy to biofeedback.  The one thing I didn't try was medication because I was already on so many pills to combat the effects of advanced CKD that I was fearful of adding yet one more powerful drug to the cocktail I already had rattling around in me. 

My mother ended up on dialysis for the 5 last years of her life.  My aunt whispered to me one time that my mother was depressed, and I replied, "Of course she is.  She's on dialysis."

I am curious.  Regarding your "sharp as a tack" patients who struggle with situational depression or anxiety, do you find that most of them respond best to meds or to cognitive behavioral therapy?  I know that each patient is different and that mine is probably not a fair question, but in very general terms and in your own experience, which seems to help the most patients?
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Post by: smartcookie on January 26, 2017, 06:59:39 AM
The doctors I work with are very quick to add a medication first.  Something like Zoloft or Lexapro that battle both anxiety and depression.  Those medications seem to help a lot.  I do have patients that, like you, do not want to add another pill.  I generally try some form of cognitive behavioral therapy and mindfulness therapy combined.  Some coping mechanisms that have worked well are breathing exercises, leaving sticky notes or notecards around the house remind the patient that they are okay and that anxious thoughts do pass, working on changing automatic thoughts when patients think of negative or distressing thoughts, etc. My best results are when the patient takes medication and does some sort of therapy with it.  My counseling is mostly symptom targeted, like helping combat sleeplessness, encouraging better fluid control, anxiety surrounding the dialysis process; that sort of thing.  I do some grief counseling, also.  I find that patients who are dealing with the death of a spouse or child and are not grieving appropriately have less than stellar dialysis outcomes. 

Believe it or not, I have patients that tell me that they were so fearful of dialysis and then tell me that when they started they felt so much better that the fear melted away.  I myself would be petrified of undergoing dialysis.  I really look up to my patients and am humbled by them.  To help patients that are fearful of dialysis, I will use mindfulness therapy.  I teach them to try and clear their minds and when a thought comes into their mind to notice it, acknowledge it, but then let it float away.  This reduces stress and helps them let go of anxious thoughts.  I also will sit with patients when they are stuck the first time and talk them through it if they have needle phobias.  I feel like I can relate to my patients with anxiety because I have anxiety myself and am on medication and have been through therapy.  I try to connect with my patients on that level and let them know that I understand what it feels to be anxious, even if I cannot relate to being on dialysis. 
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Post by: MooseMom on January 26, 2017, 08:27:37 AM
Your patients are lucky to have you, smartcookie!
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Post by: smartcookie on January 26, 2017, 10:38:03 AM
Thank you!  That means a lot!
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Post by: KarenInWA on January 26, 2017, 12:22:22 PM
I was 37 when I went on dialysis, and was lucky to only be on it for 7 months before receiving a live-donor kidney. I was depressed for years before that happened - I struggled with the nasty kidney diet, and was angry at being sick with something that had no real explanation. Once I started dialysis, I adopted an attitude of "I'm not  going to let this win!" and did really well on it. I worked FT, still went to concerts and shows, did 3 3-day weekend trips (one to Vegas where I met MooseMom!) and generally felt pretty good, all things considered. My transplant was sadly damaged by a kidney biopsy after only having it for a few months (that happened 5 years ago this upcoming April) but even with low kidney function, I am living life pretty normally. I am back on the list, but I am not in a hurry to get a new kidney. I am lucky in that despite one transplant and 2 units of blood, I still have 0% antibodies. Now if I could just get rid of this darn crud that's been hanging around for weeks....

KarenInWA
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Post by: Michael Murphy on January 26, 2017, 05:29:31 PM
This explains my last 4 years on Hemo, but what explains the first 62 years of my life. 
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Post by: Charlie B53 on February 24, 2017, 05:58:16 AM
This explains my last 4 years on Hemo, but what explains the first 62 years of my life.

LOL     Ditto!

Wife tries to convince me the main reason we do stupid things is because we are 'Guys'.

I believe she may be right, to a certain extent.