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Dialysis Discussion => Dialysis: General Discussion => Topic started by: cchalk11 on August 14, 2015, 06:16:10 AM

Title: Transition to bigger needles
Post by: cchalk11 on August 14, 2015, 06:16:10 AM

My center has moved me to a 16 gauge needle from a 17 gauge needle. My question is, has anyone felt a difference of comfort with a bigger needle in your access?

Title: Re: Transition to bigger needles
Post by: obsidianom on August 14, 2015, 07:16:23 AM

There is such a small difference between the 16 and 17 guage  needles that you may not even notice it feeling different.

Title: Re: Transition to bigger needles
Post by: Simon Dog on August 14, 2015, 09:34:34 AM

A 16 gauge needle is 12% bigger in diameter (.058->.065), but has 25% more surface area for blood flow.  The next step is a 15 (.065->.072), and 11% increase in diameter and 22% increase in surface area.

Title: Re: Transition to bigger needles
Post by: Schweinfurt on August 28, 2015, 02:08:21 AM

My FRESENIUS Center uses Gauge 15 needles.

They always hurt. I have tried Lidocaine and that freezing spray. Neither works.

A big reasons why I'm getting a transplant is so I can stop having these 15 Gauge punctures in my arm six times a week (three dialysis sessions X 2 punctures per session.)

I hate the needles: much also depends on the skill of the particular nurse you get on any particular day. A good nurse is decided- no tentative poking around, she has studied the area well and knows where she's going to stick the needle in - and she/he is fast.

I have never cried out, but it hurts. Certainly others have cried out, cried tears, screamed in fact.

I will be so relieved after my transplant in October.

Title: Re: Transition to bigger needles
Post by: Simon Dog on August 28, 2015, 06:08:24 AM

One more thing you can try - EMLA cream.   Apply 1 hour in advance, cover with saran wrap so it stays in place.

Good luck on the transplant.