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Title: Hi, like Gauge 15 needles?
Post by: Schweinfurt on May 15, 2015, 06:34:49 AM

Hello, friends. I am 69, been on dialysis (hemo) for ten months. I use a graft, in my arm. I am in Manila, the Philippines.

Have had my share of cramps, low blood pressure episodes, and three collapses. BUT, the thing I hate is the needles. They (Fresenius) use gauge 15 needles.

I hate dialysis because of the needles. I tried Lidocaine, and that freezing liquid. Nah, don't help much.

Somebody out there has some practical advice?

I am taking steps to get a transplant mainly because I cannot stand the needles.

Thank you.

Title: Re: Hi, like Gauge 15 needles?
Post by: Simon Dog on May 15, 2015, 08:31:26 AM

Have you tried EMLA cream (a mixture of Lidocaine and Prilocaine)?   You need to put it on an hour before puncturing, and it helps to cover it with a plastic wrap to keep it in place.

Title: Re: Hi, like Gauge 15 needles?
Post by: Michael Murphy on May 15, 2015, 10:10:36 AM

Into use 15 gauge needles, the only reason they don't bother me is that in the U.S. Fresinius also uses 12 gague needles they make the 15's seem small.

Title: Re: Hi, like Gauge 15 needles?
Post by: Schweinfurt on May 15, 2015, 05:13:13 PM

Thanks for your replies, guys.

Yes, I did try EMLA. Unfortunately, well, it didn't work for me. Good for the guys for whom it works. Also, it's kind of expensive over here.

Gauge 12 needles? Good God.

Ok, just gotta bear it.

Title: Re: Hi, like Gauge 15 needles?
Post by: Bayushi on May 19, 2015, 05:44:44 PM

Quote from: Michael Murphy on May 15, 2015, 10:10:36 AM

Into use 15 gauge needles, the only reason they don't bother me is that in the U.S. Fresinius also uses 12 gague needles they make the 15's seem small.

The Fresenius that I attend every Monday-Wednesday-Friday tops out at 15 gauge.

I hadn't known that there were 12 gauge in use!

As much as the lidocaine hurts going in, it's a far cry better than having those subway tunnels being slid into your arm!

Is there any online documentation about these 12-gauge needles? Thanks!

Title: Re: Hi, like Gauge 15 needles?
Post by: Michael Murphy on May 19, 2015, 08:14:32 PM

 Yea they are the white needles the poor guy also has a 5 hour treatment. I shudder every time I see him.

Title: Re: Hi, like Gauge 15 needles?
Post by: Darthvadar on May 26, 2015, 11:29:34 AM

Hi...

 :welcomesign; to IHD...

My late mum used EMLA cream when on Haemo, and found it really effective!...

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