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Title: deodorant
Post by: goldenyears on April 29, 2012, 06:49:44 AM
 ??? I see the warning on deodorant to ask the Dr. if you have kidney disease. I looked it up and see it's the aluminum content can build up in the blood. Every one I see says this. Does any one still use a antiperspirant/deodorant?????
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Title: Re: deodorant
Post by: bleija on April 29, 2012, 08:09:51 AM
interesting, i never even thought abotu not being able to use deodorant... hmm i have been on dialysis for 3 years and have always used deoderant... never had any issues as far as i know... although i notice that my arm pits get really itchy, especially when i was on hemo.....hmm this is interesting... imma have to ask my nurse abou it
Title: Re: deodorant
Post by: Hazmat35 on April 29, 2012, 08:26:10 AM
still do!  Haven't stopped using it since I was diagnosed with CKD and or after I started "D". 

I have never heard evidence that it can be harmful.  I think it may be "Harmful" if you don't use deodorant.  Some of your fellow Dialysis patients, may be OFFENDED by your oder.  JUST KIDDING. :yahoo; 

But seriously, I have not seen any studies where the alumnim is an issue. 
Title: Re: deodorant
Post by: MomoMcSleepy on April 29, 2012, 09:20:42 AM
Ask your doctor.  Mine told me that later it might be a problem, but that was a while ago...I switched from Secret to Suave to be on the safe side, but now I stink....I tried Tom's of Maine, or baby powder, but it is only ok in the winter, otherwise I feel disgusting.  It might depend on your own blood work and sensitivities.  The studies that were done a whole back were on dialysis patients who had some sort of diasylate (spelling?) that either had aluminum in it, or somehow kept aluminium in the patients' bodies so that it built up to poisonous levels.  I think they use an aluminum binder now, or a different fluid that doesn't make aluminum build up, but just ask your doctor.  Higher aluminium supposed to be carcinogenic, too,which is why some people use powders or organic deodorant.
Title: Re: deodorant
Post by: deniferfer on April 29, 2012, 11:36:58 AM
I asked my dietitian cuz my sister had noticed the warning and she said its fine to use and it that its not even enough to make a difference. But due to laws and what not they have to cover their butts!!
Title: Re: deodorant
Post by: Katonsdad on April 29, 2012, 11:43:26 AM
Have not even thought about that being in the deodarant I use,
May be why I threw up a Diet Pepsi can the other day !!!
Title: Re: deodorant
Post by: MaryJoe on April 29, 2012, 12:20:58 PM
I seem to remember that there were some media stories about 15years ago saying the aluminum in antiperspirants might be raising women's risk of getting breast cancer.  Then there was a rash of stories quoting scientists saying the amount of aluminum was too small to be significant.  I've never noticed that warning, but I live in Florida, and no one who has to be around me each day is going to appreciate me not using deodorant!  :lol;

MJ
Title: Re: deodorant
Post by: Cordelia on April 29, 2012, 01:07:20 PM
Can kidney dialysis patients get botox shots? Ive read and heard these shots can help eliminate sweating for up to a year.

Just wondering if anyone has heard of any dialysis patients ever getting botox for a sweating problem?
Title: Re: deodorant
Post by: goldenyears on April 29, 2012, 02:02:13 PM
thanks so much for the answers from everyone. I am pre-dial. and I will continue to use mine until the dr. tells me different.  thanks so much--i really am glad to find this group :2thumbsup; :clap;
Title: Re: deodorant
Post by: amanda100wilson on April 29, 2012, 06:26:12 PM
It is not the deodorant that has aluminium in it,but the  anti- perspirant, so if you buy a product that is not an anti-perspirant-deodorant, then no aluminium absorption.

Title: Re: deodorant
Post by: AguynamedKim on April 29, 2012, 06:45:02 PM
It is not the deodorant that has aluminium in it,but the  anti- perspirant, so if you buy a product that is not an anti-perspirant-deodorant, then no aluminium absorption.

This is what I have found to be true.  The aluminum powder in ant-persperants is used to clog your sweat pores.
Title: Re: deodorant
Post by: Zach on April 29, 2012, 07:13:50 PM

It is not the deodorant that has aluminium in it,but the  anti- perspirant, so if you buy a product that is not an anti-perspirant-deodorant, then no aluminium absorption.


Thank you for setting the facts straight!

;)
Title: Re: deodorant
Post by: jeannea on April 29, 2012, 09:23:10 PM
It is almost impossible these days to buy deodorant without anti-perspirant. We tried to do it for my young niece. Finally found one at Bath & Body Works marketed for young girls. Even online we weren't having much luck. I don't think there's enough market share for them to make it.
Title: Re: deodorant
Post by: AguynamedKim on April 30, 2012, 01:13:50 AM
It is almost impossible these days to buy deodorant without anti-perspirant. We tried to do it for my young niece. Finally found one at Bath & Body Works marketed for young girls. Even online we weren't having much luck. I don't think there's enough market share for them to make it.

I did not realize the market for deoderant-only products for women was so limited - there are many choices for men.  Looking at the internet, I seemed to find that Tom's, while fitting the bill, does not seem to be a very good product.  The most favored one was Crystal - however, you have to get it wet, rub it on, then let it dry.  The time seemed to be the only drawback there.  It did seem to be quite long lasting for a single stick - one year.  http://www.thecrystal.com/index.cfm (http://www.thecrystal.com/index.cfm)
Title: Re: deodorant
Post by: MomoMcSleepy on May 01, 2012, 09:39:15 AM
Can kidney dialysis patients get botox shots? Ive read and heard these shots can help eliminate sweating for up to a year.

Just wondering if anyone has heard of any dialysis patients ever getting botox for a sweating problem?

I don't see why not.  I believers stays in the injection area, but then I really don't know.  I've thought about getting gotox , too.  I, not generally beatty, but get the "cold sweats" and ruin my shirts.  I want underarm shields, like in Mad Men (Joan refers to them in season one).  Can people still buy those?. I feel like I'm the only person with sweat stains.  My dad had them bad, too, yuck.  Must be genetic.  I also want botox on my forehead.  Maybe.  My aunt had it, we all have deep thought lines between our eyebrows from scowling all the time ....and maybe in my bladder so I don't leak anymore?  But my doc thought it wouldn't work.  I sound very unattractive today!
Title: Re: deodorant
Post by: bleija on May 01, 2012, 10:11:02 AM
on pd i ddnt feel like sweat was that bad, but one i went on hemo i would have the shirt on 5 mins and have big sweat circles... did not matter how much deodorant i put on
Title: Re: deodorant
Post by: Riverwhispering on May 01, 2012, 12:25:55 PM
I had asked my Neph Doc about that once and he said it is ok to use.  That's been a couple of years now and I'm doing fine.
Title: Re: deodorant
Post by: MooseMom on May 01, 2012, 01:37:29 PM
Most antiperspirants say on the label, "Ask your doctor if you have kidney disease", so I asked my neph and the pharmacist, and they were both pretty sanguine about it.  The pharmacist said that there is a kidney warning on just about everything.  It's as much butt-covering as anything, I think.  I've been using the same deodorant for years, and my numbers haven't reflected any horror because of it.
Title: Re: deodorant
Post by: Rain on May 05, 2012, 07:58:55 AM
I switch to a natural deoderant because the normal stick deoderants never worked for me.

Natural deodorants use essiental oils that work well for me.
Title: Re: deodorant
Post by: RightSide on May 13, 2012, 04:50:40 PM
I asked my dietitian cuz my sister had noticed the warning and she said its fine to use and it that its not even enough to make a difference. But due to laws and what not they have to cover their butts!!
I asked my neph, and he said it ordinarily wouldn't be a problem for me.

However, I would caution against applying the deodorant to cut or broken skin, which might enable the aluminum to find its way into your bloodstream.  For example, I wouldn't apply the deodorant to my rectal area, because I suffer from anal fissures which do bleed when I'm constipated.