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Title: The Diet and snacking?
Post by: gothiclovemonkey on January 08, 2012, 06:13:34 AM
This is bad, I have been on dialysis for a while now, and i dont know the answers... I have sort of talked to the dietician about all of this, but i want to know what you all do.

I want to lose some more weight, and still try to follow the dialysis diet... what are some quick and easy snacks? I mean, no effort snacks! Just like open a bag and eat LOL

Title: Re: The Diet and snacking?
Post by: Riverwhispering on January 08, 2012, 09:45:56 AM
Open a bag of Unseasoned pork rinds....  and..... bag one oz of rinds per ziplock bag.

Then you can just open one ziplock bag and pig out and be snacking on crunchy stuff.

1oz 28g of Unseasoned (lower salt) pork rinds and you have:

152 calories

35.6mg of Potassium

23.8mg of Phosphorous
Title: Re: The Diet and snacking?
Post by: gothiclovemonkey on January 08, 2012, 10:12:21 AM
MMMMMMMMMMMMMM that sounds delish!!! Thank u!
Title: Re: The Diet and snacking?
Post by: monrein on January 08, 2012, 12:34:41 PM
Aren't pork rinds high in fat though?  I think they're usually deep fried. 

Title: Re: The Diet and snacking?
Post by: Riverwhispering on January 08, 2012, 02:00:00 PM
that's why i said to make 1 oz bags so you can eat the whole bag and only get 152 calories and it's a nice snack.
 
Title: Re: The Diet and snacking?
Post by: glitter on January 08, 2012, 02:01:25 PM

Junk Food that's Good for You
By: Jeff Volek, Ph.D., R.D.


Read more: http://www.menshealth.com/mhlists/healthy_snacks/Pork_Rinds.php#ixzz1iuHwyuo8


Pork Rinds

Why you think they're bad: These puffy snacks are literally cut from pigskin. Then they're deep-fried.

Why they're not: A 1-ounce serving contains zero carbohydrates, 17 grams (g) of protein, and 9 g fat. That's nine times the protein and less fat than you'll find in a serving of carb-packed potato chips. Even better, 43 percent of a pork rind's fat is unsaturated, and most of that is oleic acid—the same healthy fat found in olive oil. Another 13 percent of its fat content is stearic acid, a type of saturated fat that's considered harmless, because it doesn't raise cholesterol levels.

Eat this: J&J Critters Microwave Pork Rinds ($6.50 for a 10-ounce container; www.microwaveporkrinds.com). Because the rinds are cooked and puffed in a microwave instead of deep-fried, each serving contains only 4 g fat—meaning they're lower in calories and less greasy than regular pork rinds.



Title: Re: The Diet and snacking?
Post by: Annig83 on January 08, 2012, 02:19:24 PM
I love this snack!  You can put it in baggies like suggested for the pork rinds, the suggested serving is 1 cup. 200 calories, 3 grams of protein, 175g of sodium, 80g of potassium and 65g phosphorus.

I know you said you wanted something you can just open and go with, once it's cooked it stays fresh pretty long and can be stored in containers.  Hope this helps!
Munchester Mix

2 cups Rice Crispies
2 Cups puffed wheat cereal
2 Cups Shredded Wheat Cereal
1 Cup unsalted Pretzels
1 Cup Unsalted Popcorn
1/2 Cup of melted butter or margarine
1/2 tsp. garlic powder
1/2 tsp. of onion powder
1/2 tsp. chili powder
1/4 tsp tabasco sauce
1 tsp. Worcestershire sauce

Heat oven to 275
Combine cereals, popcorn, and pretzels
melt butter and pour over mix, add sauces and add spices.
Pour onto cookie sheet and bake 45 minutes.
Title: Re: The Diet and snacking?
Post by: gothiclovemonkey on January 08, 2012, 03:03:10 PM
all of this sounds so good, thank u!!!!
I bought some little baggies and containers, to make stuff i do enjoy. Like my pickled eggplant yum! (dont let the name fool u, its not salty AT ALL) its just vinegar and garlic.
im checking into the pork rinds, those were good when i had them when i was a kid.
I just like easy snacks because when i am driving from dialysis i need some kind of pick me up, and more often im finding myself hitting drive thru, which is never a good idea.
that mix sounds awesome~! my dad makes something similar but not renal friendly at all lol
Title: Re: The Diet and snacking?
Post by: ToddB0130 on January 08, 2012, 05:59:04 PM
I tend to eat snack bag size portions of lots of things.  Fruit, vegetables, crunchy things .......... the portions are smaller and you can use the smaller sizes to count calories as well.   I tend to like a snack like 12 frozen grapes or a small portion of dry cereal.

Nothing 'bad' about you wanting to get this started !!!  Incorporate some exercise too.  Good Luck.

And if you think the renal diet is bad .... try being diabetic too ......... what's okay for renal ISN'T okay for diabetic and vice versa ...........bottom line,  always throw away the food and eat the container !   HA.
Title: Re: The Diet and snacking?
Post by: iketchum on January 08, 2012, 06:04:20 PM
Yup, my wife buys a pizza and I get the box.
 :puke;
Title: Re: The Diet and snacking?
Post by: gothiclovemonkey on January 08, 2012, 11:27:42 PM
 :rofl; well the pizza joints here are greasy enough, the box might actually be pretty damn tasty!

I was talking about this idea tonight with my family, and my brother didnt quite grasp why i would be doing this after so long of being on D... so my son pipes up and says, "Why mommy?" I said because i cant nibble those toes forever! lol 

Its a bit annoying when no body in ur family will supporrt ur diet, or fluid restrictions!!!

Oh i am most thankful im not diabetic, i would starve!!
Title: Re: The Diet and snacking?
Post by: Whamo on January 09, 2012, 06:35:35 AM
My go-to snack is 40-30-30 nutrition bars.  I look for the ones with low potassium and phosphorus under 20%.  I try to pop a binder pill along with them.   Some of them are quite tasty, and the nutritional spread is ideal. 
Title: Re: The Diet and snacking?
Post by: Lillupie on January 09, 2012, 07:13:51 AM


And if you think the renal diet is bad .... try being diabetic too ......... what's okay for renal ISN'T okay for diabetic and vice versa ...........bottom line,  always throw away the food and eat the container !   HA.


OMG you are sooo funny.  :rofl; :rofl;
 That is true. i feel sorry for those who are diabetic.
Title: Re: The Diet and snacking?
Post by: Rain on January 09, 2012, 09:44:56 AM
Try eating fruit for snacks  and crackers with with cream cheese. I also like making some hard boiled eggs as snack.

If your trying to loss weight stay away from the high fructose corn syrup and carbs as snacks, they don't fill you up and you eat a lot more. Or if you eat carbs eat some protein with it, it will keep you fuller and you won't ahve the insulin highs and lows which make you feel hungry.
Title: Re: The Diet and snacking?
Post by: gothiclovemonkey on January 09, 2012, 01:37:12 PM
isnt cream cheese a no-no? i love me some cream cheese!
I went shopping today, found out we can have eggplant, so i made my yummy eggplant stuff, and i got some veggies, fruits, and pork rinds! im set for at least a few weeks i hop.
my big issue right now, idk why, but every few months i get really odd about food. nothing tastes good, nothing satisfys at all. i want things i know i cant eat. its very annoying!!!!
Title: Re: The Diet and snacking?
Post by: Lillupie on January 09, 2012, 01:53:20 PM
isnt cream cheese a no-no? i love me some cream cheese!
I went shopping today, found out we can have eggplant, so i made my yummy eggplant stuff, and i got some veggies, fruits, and pork rinds! im set for at least a few weeks i hop.
my big issue right now, idk why, but every few months i get really odd about food. nothing tastes good, nothing satisfys at all. i want things i know i cant eat. its very annoying!!!!
I was told that cream cheese and sour cream and cottage cheese is ok on the renal diet. They are full of fat and low on protein, and the protein is what is high in phos for calcium foods.

Lisa
Title: Re: The Diet and snacking?
Post by: jshabanian on January 09, 2012, 01:57:03 PM
I too was told that cream cheese is okay on the renal/dialysis diet.  I love cream cheese too.  I like to eat strips of fresh red pepper (yummy with cream cheese).

I also eat apples sliced thinly and crackers with cream cheese.  Pears are really good this time of year.

I am with you in wanting the things I should not have!!  I crave little cuties (the tangerines) now.  I could eat a dozen at a time!! 

Title: Re: The Diet and snacking?
Post by: Riverwhispering on January 09, 2012, 03:09:04 PM
These are about 1/3 the Phosphorus of most of the cheeses you can buy

Cream Cheese 1oz  Potassium 38.6mg, Phosphorus 29.7mg, Calories 96

Brie Cheese 1oz Potassium 42.6mg, Phosphorus 52.6mg, Calories 94

Sour Cream 1oz Potassium 39.5mg, Phosphorus 32.2mg, Calories 54

Cottage Cheese, Creamed 1oz Potassium 29.1mg, Phosphorus 44.5mg Calories 27

 
Title: Re: The Diet and snacking?
Post by: gothiclovemonkey on January 09, 2012, 07:31:15 PM
omg apples and crm chz sounds flipping awesome!
Title: Re: The Diet and snacking?
Post by: Joe on January 10, 2012, 06:56:59 AM
Yes it does. I'm also finding a piece of fresh fruit is a good, satisfying, snack. Pears are in season and tasting pretty darn good.
Title: Re: The Diet and snacking?
Post by: Riverwhispering on January 10, 2012, 08:04:28 AM
I love brie stuffed in celery, you don't need a lot and it fills you up.    I've seen Brie at the store in a round package wrapped in 1oz triangles.   I love it cause you don't have to guess or weigh.   I think it's Presidents brand Brie
Title: Re: The Diet and snacking?
Post by: Lillupie on January 10, 2012, 12:50:33 PM
wow thank you. I never thought of Brie cheese.
Title: Re: The Diet and snacking?
Post by: gothiclovemonkey on January 10, 2012, 06:45:24 PM
this may seem like a dumb question, but brie? is it comparible to any other cheese as far as flavor goes?
Title: Re: The Diet and snacking?
Post by: MooseMom on January 10, 2012, 09:53:37 PM
Brie is fab.  I know this is snobbery, but if I'm going to eat cheese at all, it's going to be the best I can afford.  It has to be phosphorus worthy (aka "sponge worthy" for any Seinfeld fans out there; I hated that show, but my husband is always prefacing a conversation with, "There was a Seinfeld episode where...").  Brie is generally a milder cheese, and it can be very creamy if you get a triple cream brie.  It is lower in phos than harder, smellier cheeses, but it IS cheese, so you DO need to exercise some portion control.

Oh, brie spread on a lovely French baguette...one of life's real pleasures!
Title: Re: The Diet and snacking?
Post by: gothiclovemonkey on January 11, 2012, 07:41:33 AM
i will def check this brie stuff out!!!
im not a huge dairy fan, thank goodness, but cream cheese is amazing, i think this brie might be up my alley!
my biggest hurdle will always be getting enough protein, and less potassium, as i absolutely love potatoes lol 
got my labs back and im just barely on the good side of protein. i try to eat as much as i can... Would deviled eggs be "good"?
Title: Re: The Diet and snacking?
Post by: Rain on January 11, 2012, 08:29:17 AM
Yes I eat Deviled eggs all the time.

Add a bit of mayo the yoke , with some spices perfect.   
Title: Re: The Diet and snacking?
Post by: jshabanian on January 11, 2012, 11:26:14 AM
@Gothiclovemonkey, please share the pickled eggplant recipe.  I just love eggplant and bought some eggplant yesterday in the hopes that you would share your recipe with us!
Title: Re: The Diet and snacking?
Post by: Riverwhispering on January 11, 2012, 12:31:10 PM
you can't go wrong with eggs
Title: Re: The Diet and snacking?
Post by: Riverwhispering on January 11, 2012, 12:37:09 PM
I use Grapeseed Vegenaise instead of Mayo.  I really like the taste

Ingredients: (vegan, gluten free, dairy free) Expeller-Pressed Grapeseed Oil, Filtered Water, Brown Rice Syrup, Apple Cider Vinegar, Non-GMO Soy Protein, Sea Salt, Mustard Flour, Lemon Juice Concentrate. Contains: Soy

Grapeseed oil is one of the few natural foods known to raise HDL, AKA the "good" cholesterol. Try this healthy mayo alternative with the great taste of Original Vegenaise® and the benefit of this amazing oil!
Title: Re: The Diet and snacking?
Post by: gothiclovemonkey on January 11, 2012, 07:02:52 PM
@Gothiclovemonkey, please share the pickled eggplant recipe.  I just love eggplant and bought some eggplant yesterday in the hopes that you would share your recipe with us!

i unfortunately dont have any set recipe, i do mine to taste, but ill give the basics, and u can experiment :)
I peeal the eggplant, all the skin off, then slice it up, i pore quite a bit of olive oil over it, enough to soak into the eggplant, (eggplant it like a sponge, so it takes alot) lots and lots of garlic, i like minced and granulated, and i mean ALOT, i let that cook for a while, slowly adding vinegar to taste... i end up with (im guessing here) probably at least a good 2 cups of vinegar or more... and i cook it on low for a long time, it ends up looking absolutely disgusting, almost like snot? but its soooo good! ill try to post a pic of the finished product for u. its really easy, but i go by my own personal taste, never had an actual recipe, my gma made it, and i never had a chance to get the recipe, so i did it by memory....

Title: Re: The Diet and snacking?
Post by: gothiclovemonkey on January 11, 2012, 07:11:49 PM
looks nasty but ooooh soooo goooood
Title: Re: The Diet and snacking?
Post by: monrein on January 12, 2012, 12:29:49 PM
I'm sure that would be delicious glm.  The only thing is that lots of olive oil = lots of calories and eggplant does really soak it up.  What I do to get around this (and add extra flavour to the eggplant) is brush it with olive oil, and then barbeque it till softened and a touch charred then proceed.  Some eggplants can be bitter, especially the larger ones, although if you sprinkle with salt and then dry off thoroughly after 20 minutes or so this will pull out the bitterness.  The long thin "japanese" or "chinese" eggplants are paler in colour the the usual ones but aren't at all bitter.  I often just grill them, sliced in half and rubbed with olive oil and lots of garlic...best of all, keep some olive oil with garlic grated in it and use that for all sorts of things to add flavour to the blah renal diet.
Title: Re: The Diet and snacking?
Post by: gothiclovemonkey on January 12, 2012, 02:15:24 PM
i like the bitterness myself :) and i dispise the flavor of salt on most things, so i almost always avoid it like the plague lol
yes that probably is high in calories! but i only eat about 2 table spoons of it, as a snack, its too rich to eat alot!
that does sound good, the grilled flavor,  it would be more like a burger then? unless i suppose i pureed it?
Title: Re: The Diet and snacking?
Post by: monrein on January 13, 2012, 06:27:26 AM
They get soft on the grill and are easily mushed up.  Salting the raw eggplant and then rinsing and wiping after doesn't add salty taste ...there will be liquid on the eggplant as the salt pulls out the bitter and then it's gone...has to be dried off tho or it would be salty and not good at all.  If you like the bitter then obviously you wouldn't do this step.
Title: Re: The Diet and snacking?
Post by: gothiclovemonkey on January 13, 2012, 07:59:42 AM
i will def. try this method next time i make it!  thank u!
Title: Re: The Diet and snacking?
Post by: Riverwhispering on January 13, 2012, 09:05:09 AM
You all got me interested in eggplant now.  It's not something I ever think about buying. 

Looking up the nutritional info on it it is:

Peeled Eggplant

3/4 pound, 229g

Potassium 527mg

Phosphorous 57mg

Calories 55

Not bad at all... I think I'll give it a try next time I go to the store