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Dialysis Discussion => Dialysis: Diet and Recipes => Topic started by: Rain on November 09, 2011, 04:31:23 AM
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I've been toying with the idea of having a Renal Blog that features recipes.
I've been taking some cooking courses at Le Cordon Bleu and have adapted many recipes to be renal friendly. Would a blog on ESRD recipes be helpful? Would anyone want to help contribute?
I would also love to get this community involved with their favourite recipes, as well. Maybe based on topic: ie Favourite Salad dressing recipe, that way we have a collection of great food to share.
Thoughts ideas?
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I would love it. I have tried looking for recipes and everything looks so BLAND. I would love to share recipes that folks have actually tried and liked - and that people not on the renal diet would eat LOL :rofl;
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I think it is a good idea. For people, like me, who don't know what to make for dinner we can go to the blog and find something that sounds good.
:yahoo;
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I think that it is a GREAT idea. I always dreamed that we'd have an IHD Community Recipie Book (starting with Zach's Chili) - I'd loive to have something like that on my cookbook shelf.
Go for it Rain, I'll be reading your blog!
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awwwww yes, Zachs' chillie ummmmmmmmmmm,, and YES to the blog!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! a big yes for sure...
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I already have blog post ideas in my head. Okay I will start something and post here.
I will need your help. What type of recipes would you like to see?
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I would like to see the following types of recipes:
breakfast/lunch ideas that are portable and ideally can be made the night before
dinner ideas that take 45 minutes or less to make
Can you tell that I am time-crunched? I do like to cook but time is always of the essence. ;D
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Rain,
What I think would be nice: you cooking renal friendly recipies, taking pictures and then posting about it.
That way you are covering recipie, technique and renal friendly. Wheteher it be a snack or a dinner or whatever, you can show the whole meal in context.
It has been my experience that people are insipred by dishes and meals. And pictures are a fantastic way to explain a recipie.
I am a big fan of Ree Drummond http://thepioneerwoman.com/cooking/recipe-file/
It would be great to have a Renal Friendly version of The Pioneer Woman. (and she makes A LOT of money too)
Another thing that I have always preached to my foodie buddies: We need a cooking show for people with chronic disease.
Could you imagine Julia Child the French Dialysis Chef? Or Ina Garten does low sodium? Certainly Paula Deen should be cutting her carbs and fat (she's a heart attack waiting to happen)
Or Alton Brown does High Protein (he certainly looks anemic now a days)
Or Mario Batali doing the Detox Diet....
My absurd fantasy food show list goes on and on... But my favorite fantasy cartoon would be Zombie Julia Child bursting onto the set of Semi-Home Made with Sandra Lee and wiping her out with a le creuset saucier.
Now I am going back to work.
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I got a new camera a few weeks ago and everything.
In the next month I plan on taking pictures of food I make and starting the blog, so it will be ready to go live around Christmas.
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At the pace I"m going I'm probabily going to have it up in 2-3 weeks. Some recipes you have to look forward to..
1. Beef Tenderloin with Cognac Sauce
2. A Faijita seasoning recipe
3. Blueberry crisp for 1 desert recipe
4. Chicken or Turkey sausage patties recipe ( no salt)
5. Faux home fries
6. How to make homemade stocks (no salt added)
7. Chicken slouvaki with greek salad dressing
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Oh RAin,,, im very excited about this. I will send you my bread recepie, and waffle recepie in time if you like. They're yummy...
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Does anyone have a good blog name?
Some ideas i have are:
"Living with less than perfect kidneys"
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The Healthy Kidney Kitchen
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Culinary CKD
And you could also make and review some of the existing recipies on some of the big sites.
I just had some of the ambrosia from the Davita website, and it was good, but their Blueberry Muffins were the WROST.MUFFINS.I.HAVE.EVER.HAD.
Rain, I think that you could have so much fun with this. I am VERY excited for you!
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I took some photos this week of some food I cooked up.
I have the day off work this Friday so I will work on the site. So hopefully inwill get it up and running with a couple posts and a subscription option so you guys will get automatic notifications of new posts. The site will probably be on wordpress and move to it's own domain once. I get enough traffic.
I like the healthy kidney kitchen but maybe shorten it to The Kidney Kitchen.
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As a gag on April Fool's, you should post recipes using kidneys. :rofl;
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Oh Rain, this is a brilliant idea, and I love Meinuk's notion of using photos. (I also would love to see a famous chef preparing renal-friendly meals!)
I would be grateful for some renally friendly snacking ideas. I'm on my own during the day and generally make only one main meal, that being dinner, for when my husband comes home. I tend to sorta graze during the day. I eat less than I used to; I think I'm just getting older and don't need the calories. Also, I admit to feeling more fatigue, so I don't walk 3 miles a day like I used to. I may walk only 2, probably just one mile twice a day, so again, I don't eat as much as before. So I'd love to have some snacks I can make and put in the fridge to a quick bite during the day.
I'd also appreciate some pasta dishes that do not substitute red peppers for tomatoes. I tried that tactic, and I really didn't care for it as red peppers are too sweet.
I'd love to have some recipes that heavily rely on cream cheese...maybe a pasta sauce made with cream cheese...since this is not a forbidden food!
I like "Kidney Kitchen". Can't wait to see it! Hurry up! LOL!
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This it a great idea! I grow own herbs and make my own blends (we stopped buying salt long before I was diagnosed when we realised we were using it more to clear the steps during the winter than as a food item!) I would love to see some slow cooker recipes.
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I love the ideas.
MooseMom how is cream cheese not restricted? I was told to count my cream cheese in my 3oz of cheese I eat a week. Except the dietian told me I could substitute my 3 oz of cheese for some liver pate this holiday season.. mmmm liver pate..
Does anyone use soy sauce? I use it in marinades and only the low sodium.
MooseMom have you tried a roasted carrot pasta sauce? Or made your own pesto just don't include pine nuts and easy on the cheese. Could make a big batch of pesto and freeze it in ice cube trays so it's easy access when you want it.
For pasta I do a lot of oil based or egg yolk based sauces. I actually prefer it to veggie based sauces, since my pasta usually includes different veggies.
I've tried some recipes for the renal diet, that I got from they dietitian or found online and I have to admit there some hits and misses.
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As a gag on April Fool's, you should post recipes using kidneys. :rofl;
I LOVE THIS! And I have a couple of giant PKD whoppers that I could donate - surely enough to feed a family of 10 ..... :)
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MooseMom how is cream cheese not restricted? I was told to count my cream cheese in my 3oz of cheese I eat a week. Except the dietian told me I could substitute my 3 oz of cheese for some liver pate this holiday season.. mmmm liver pate..
Well, MY dietician is bigger than YOUR dietician, and MY dietician gave me a "high phosphorus food list" that included "cheese (but not cream cheese)." :P I've always noticed that cream cheese specificially excluded from the general cheese taboo. I've just now checked my packet of food information to make sure I didn't misremember this, but there it is..."(except cream cheese)."
Does anyone use soy sauce? I use it in marinades and only the low sodium.
I tend to avoid it because of the sodium content, even the low sodium version. There are so many great marinades I can make with other ingredient that I don't feel the need to use soy sauce. But if you have something particularly tasty, I'll certainly try it!
MooseMom have you tried a roasted carrot pasta sauce? Or made your own pesto just don't include pine nuts and easy on the cheese. Could make a big batch of pesto and freeze it in ice cube trays so it's easy access when you want it.
I love roasted carrots, but I've not made a sauce with them. Look, I am not a natural cook. I can follow a recipe, but I have never had the time to play around with recipes and really teach myself to "cook". I found out how bad my kidneys were just when I entered the time in my life where I had more time to cultivate this art, but I lost my desire and interest when I found out that there is nothing safe to eat anymore. ha. Food just annoys me now; I see it as the enemy, as a necessary evil. My love for food has diminished, and I would like to get it back. But since I am not a natural cook, it is hard for me to play around with safe recipes, so if you can do that for me, I'd love you forever! So, if you can share a recipe for roasted carrot sauce, I'd give it a go, but I suspect it might be a bit sweet for my taste. I am not devoted to pasta sauce per se, so I would be happy with idea for olive oil and herb based sauces (which, I realize, aren't really "sauces".) I've never made my own pesto, so again, if you could tell me how to make it w/out pinenuts and cheese, that would be great. BTW, I have an great blender, but I don't have a food processor and don't particularly want to spend the money for one. It's just me and my husband, so I don't need to make great batches of anything and don't want to add to my kitchen stuff with a processor. Do you use one a lot? Maybe I should bite the bullet and get one. But it just seems like one more thing to keep clean and to faff about with.
For pasta I do a lot of oil based or egg yolk based sauces. I actually prefer it to veggie based sauces, since my pasta usually includes different veggies.
Yeah, like this. I'd like something simple because when it comes to my "I've lived in Chicago all my life, and my pasta needs a tomato based sauce" husband, he's not gonna be down with this. But he's happy with sauce from a jar :puke;, so he can have that and I'll make one of your sauces for myself. I've never done an egg yolk based sauce...I'd try that!
I've tried some recipes for the renal diet, that I got from they dietitian or found online and I have to admit there some hits and misses.
I'll eat just about anything that I know won't hurt me. :rofl; If I know it is "safe" and that I don't have to worry about it, then I'm happy. But I have to consider my husband who seemingly eats only beige food, preferably from a box. I know that I shouldn't force my diet onto him, but he is not too good at returning the favor (he has that emotional attachment to food that most men have), and I really don't want to have to make two meals, one for renally challenged me and another for him, because this disease has robbed me of the energy to do that. By the end of the day, right around the time for making dinner, I'm usually completely enervated, so preparing evening meals is a problem for me, but I do it because my disease isn't supposed to affect anyone else because that would make me a selfish b*tch, right? ::) (little bit of a rant there)
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MooseMom how is cream cheese not restricted? I was told to count my cream cheese in my 3oz of cheese I eat a week. Except the dietian told me I could substitute my 3 oz of cheese for some liver pate this holiday season.. mmmm liver pate..
Cream cheese has 29.7 mg of phosphorus per oz. Cheddar, for example, has 143 mg per oz. Parmesan has 194 mg per oz. If you're only restricting cheese because of the phosphorus, cream cheese is a good substitute that you can have more of. If you're watching it because of something else (calories?), then you'll have to weigh that against other cheeses.
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Yes I find I use my food processor a lot, more in the winter then the summer. I use it about 1-2 times a week. I make coleslaws, pie crusts, doughts, sauces, bread crumbs.. you name it with my food processor. But getting the right food processor does make a difference. I had a black & decker one of years and hated it. Then last year I got myself a kitchenaid and love it. It`s a lot more expensive but for the amount I use it it`s well work it.
Well the website is up
you can visit it at
http://thehealthykidneykitchen.wordpress.com/ (http://thehealthykidneykitchen.wordpress.com/)
Please subscribe, that will be how I know how many people are reading it. I only have 2 posts up I will add more as time permits.
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Moose Mom: like you, it is just my husband & I. I didn't want a huge food processor but I found a very cool item from Tupperware. I don't remember the exact name but it is a little chopper. You put your ingredients in, pull the cord a few times and it is done. I was surprised at how well it works. I use it for all kinds of things from herbs to onions. It is the perfect size for us to throw the ingredients in for egg or tuna salad, pull the cord and there is enough for a couple of sandwiches. I love mine and am thinking of getting a second one.
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Subscribed! :2thumbsup;
I have a question about the Pasta Carbonara - I know that traditionally Pasta Carbonara is made with bacon, butter, eggs and milk. Could I add some butter to when making recipe to give it a different mouth feel? I am thinking that just a tsp of butter along with the milk might make for a richer sauce.
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I''m in!
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Thanks for those links, HPS! I have looked at the Davita site which I think is quite good. I'll have to take the time to look at some of the others, too. I'm just rather lazy. My general strategy is to avoid entirely the most heinous foods and to just have smaller portions of everything else. That way I don't have to think too much. :P So far this has served me fairly well, but I really should be more fastidious. But I will certainly spend the time to better organize myself based on the links you provided; thanks again.
Rain, I'm gonna go subscribe right now!
PS...I'm not sure about the "Paste" with Egg, though! LOL!
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Yaaaaaahhhhh .... you used the name I recommended !! So cool. THANKS
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Subscribed! I'm excited, I love to cook and I love trying new recipes.
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A suggestion... Any chance your going to add the protien content?
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A suggestion... Any chance your going to add the protien content?
I will add protein content to the new recipes.
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Subscribed!!.....how exciting and so much fun!!
Thanks Rain and anyone who adds their recipes!
Joy :thx;
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On Monday a post is going up on salad dressing and I am asking you to submit you own.
Also this week a modified a recipe by Rachel ray. And it was yummy.
In the resources page I include IHD since you guys are a great resource.
If you can pass this website around so I could get more subscribers. I have visions for this website but I can't do it without readers and contributors.
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I posted 2 great posts on Greek Salad Dressing Recipe and Chicken Faijitas .
Subscribe. Also if anyone has any renal friendly recipes PM me with the recipes since I plan on doing weekly reader recipe posts.
http://thehealthykidneykitchen.wordpress.com (http://thehealthykidneykitchen.wordpress.com)
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YAY! Another Kidney Recipe Blog! Now I have someone to talk to about it. I run one called Dining on Dialysis. http://diningondialysis.wordpress.com
I added you to my links section, by the way.
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To both Rain and pagandialysis, thank you both so much for the work you have done on your renal diet recipe blogs! I have a request. I would love a recipe for a renally friendly soup. I could probably come up with something myself, but I just don't have the time nor the overriding interest and energy, so I'm going to be lazy and ask that you do the work for me! I like just about everything but fennel and/or cloves :puke;. I like "creamy" soups and I like brothy soups; I'm not fussed.
Thank you!
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I have a creamy soup you might like: Cream of Crab. Ingredients: 1 Tablespoon unsalted butter; 1/2 medium onion, chopped; 1/2 lb imitation crabmeat, shredded; 1 quart low-sodium chicken broth; 1 cup nondairy coffee creamer; 2 Tablespoons cornstarch; 1/8 teaspoon dillweed Directions: Melt butter in a large cooking pot over medium heat. Add onion and cook, stirring, until soft. Add crabmeat and cook 3 minutes, stirring constantly. Add chicken broth and bring to a boil. Reduce heat to low. Combine coffee creamer and cornstarch in a bowl. Stir until smooth. Add to soup and increase heat to moderate, stirring constantly, until mixture comes to a boil and thickens. Stir in dill. Serves 10 1 cup per serving. Calories: 87; Carbohydrates: 7; Protein: 4; Fat: 5; Sodium: 241; Potassium: 80; Phosphorus: 82 Enjoy! :clap;
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Oh, thanks for that, CebuShan! I'll try that!
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I have a recipe on how to make chicken broth coming up on a future post in February I think. I set it up to post weekly, since I don't have enough posts for 3 times a week.
But for soup I just make egg drop soup.
Heat broth, add egg, stir.. for 1 minute.. and eat.
I will try to think of something.
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I love egg drop soup! I usually add some chives or green onions.
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I did some searching and found a recipe similar to the ones I tried in the past.
http://www.canadianliving.com/food/quick_and_easy/turkey_meatball_soup.php
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I was watching Alton Brown's Good Eats a few years ago on the Cooking network and learned how to make the richest chicken broth. You roast or rotisserie your whole chicken using whatever spices you would use.
Take all the good meat off and toss the bones and skin in a crock pot and cook for 24 hours. Cooking it that long gets all the good flavors from the inside of the bones. You strain it and freeze the broth. I have some freezer jars that are one cup size and just take what I need as needed. You can take what's left after straining and feed it to your dogs and cats. The bones are not brittle, you can crush them between your fingers they are so soft. My critters love it.
I don't add salt when I cook so it's never been an issue.
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Riverwhispering,
yes i have to agree the longer you cook the richer it gets. I usually cook in my slow cooker any where between 12-16 hours, just cause by then the smell is too much. I usually start it at night and I have been woken up numerous times hungry and smelling chicken..
MooseMom,
I will have something posted in week, for a lovely beef recipe.
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Never thought about making soup. You know the whole fluid intake and all. I will look into that then.
Since I missed your request, here is something SUPER simple you can make: http://diningondialysis.wordpress.com/2012/02/01/tapioca-pudding/
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Rain I just came on board to the Kidney Kitchen. I like it a lot when you have the potassium and phosphorous amount with the recipes because right now I'm not on phosphorous binders yet and haven't started dialysis. My GFR is in the 11/12 range and I've become very anal about my phosphorous intake because it was higher then normal and I have gotten it back in the normal range. Thanks so much for doing this for us.
River
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No problem.
Sorry I haven't updated this week, I'm really busy with other stuff, I will try to post the recipe for the soup, it got the idea from a Korean soup recipe.
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I posted the recipe for the Beef Noodle Soup at the Healthy Kidney Kitchen. I hope it's they type of recipe you are looking for.
Okay I need everyone's input. What type of recipes would you like to see on the blog. I may have time in the next couple weeks to try new recipes. So ideas would be great. Here are the following catagories that I could post.
Eggs
Desserts
Breakfast
Beverages
Is there anything you are looking for a substitue for a favourite recipe you loved pre dialysis that you want me to come up with a dialysis friendly recipe. I am looking for a challenge.
I could has use some input for reader recipes. So if you have a favourite recipe submit it via the blog to share with others.
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I love salsa! Has there been a recipe posted for salsa? I usually grow my own ingredients.
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CebuShan, Could it be a non tomato salsa? I'm allergic to tomatos .
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Darn! I love tomatoes! But I'd be willing to try a non-tomato salsa.
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I have about 3 different salsa recipes so far. Each week I will make a new one and post my opinion. So stay tuned I should start posting next week.
The only thing that may put this on hold is if i can't find cilantro.
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I posted the recipe for the Beef Noodle Soup at the Healthy Kidney Kitchen. I hope it's they type of recipe you are looking for.
Okay I need everyone's input. What type of recipes would you like to see on the blog. I may have time in the next couple weeks to try new recipes. So ideas would be great. Here are the following catagories that I could post.
Eggs
Desserts
Breakfast
Beverages
Is there anything you are looking for a substitue for a favourite recipe you loved pre dialysis that you want me to come up with a dialysis friendly recipe. I am looking for a challenge.
I could has use some input for reader recipes. So if you have a favourite recipe submit it via the blog to share with others.
A renal friendly breakfast! I'm pre-dialysis, so I have to limit my protein intake. I'm so tired of rice or corn cereals with fruit. That's all I ever have. My husband loves to go out for breakfast on the weekends, but for me, that's a nightmare. So much protein in the form of bacon, eggs, ham and sausages! And everything has cheese on it. And the so-called "healthy" options always have nuts and yogurt.
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MM: I have a great recipe for renal friendly biscuits and gravy!
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MooseMom,
I will think of something. I do have CebuShan biscuit and gravy recipe I will post. But I think I have a great pancake recipe with caramelized apples
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I just discovered that Pinyon Pine nuts are: 1 oz, 176 calories, 176 potassium and 9.8 phosphorous and a whopping 3g fiber. :clap;
Maybe some home made pesto would be great for flavor on stuff. Any ideas Rain?
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I usually make my pesto without pine nuts. But i only make in the summer when I have my herb garden. Which I found out I won't be able to have this year on my balcony. They are doing construction on everyone balcony.. and when I brought them in they didn't do as well.
I may pick up a bunch of herbs this weekend at the grocery store, and make pesto, and salsa recipes.
I have time and procrastination time this weekend (I should be studying ) so I lot of posts will be scheduled after this weekend.
Some are
Pita Chips
Pineapple salsa
Apple salsa
Other salsa recipes
Blueberry gelatin (Blueberry jello but homemade without the add phosphorous additives)
Low protein breakfast- pancakes, and reader recipes
And pesto - depending on herb prices. It's the dead of winter here so herb prices go up. And organic is hard to come by. I also just wing it so I need to do it again to write down the amounts of each.
And also some salad dressing recipes. Since i started using flax oil I like the nutty taste it give to salad dressing without the potassium or phosphorous that flax seeds have.
Sounds good.
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Rain, I tried your French Toast and loved it! Them I saw something on TV that would make a great variation. Instead of making it "double decker" cut the crust off, spread the cream cheese & jelly, roll up like a jelly roll. Dip in egg and cook until lightly browned on all sides. Top with a little powder sugar. The show I saw this on used peanut butter instead of cream cheese but I don't see why it wouldn't work.
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Renal friendly biscuits? Is there such a thing? I thought baking powder and such were high in phosphates. Ooooh, I'd love me some biscuits! Just plain, no gravy necessary. Yumtastic!
I'd love to make some pesto without pine nuts. See, I'm just not very creative. It wouldn't have even occurred to me to make pesto without pine nuts.
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Kidney recipes? I've never ate a kidney before.
gerald
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Kidney recipes? I've never ate a kidney before.
gerald
It will give you the power of your enemy!
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Kidney recipes? I've never ate a kidney before.
gerald
It will give you the power of your enemy!
LOL! I thought that was the heart! Wrong thread! :rofl; :rofl; :rofl;
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Gerald you got me thinking... isn't is a hard fast rule we're not supposed to eat kidneys? :rofl;
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Might as well, they aren't doing any good for anything else :rofl; :rofl; :rofl;
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Renal friendly biscuits? My renal isn't friendly to anything.
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I'll let Rain post the recipe but they really are renal friendly! The recipe was given to me by a renal dietitian! I have the numbers to Rain, I'm sure she'll post them also. Enjoy!
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Just make sure when you use baking powder that it's not aluminum-free. Aluminum free-baking powder has almost 4 times the phosphorus of regular baking powder. If you can find a buttermilk biscuit recipe that uses baking soda instead (and substitute the buttermilk with rice milk or almond milk, plus lemon juice or vinegar), that would be even lower in phosphorus.
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It's late and I'm tired but I have scheduled the following posts until march 7th
1. Pineapple Salsa
2. Pita Crisps (Recipe Review)
3. Homemade chicken stock
4. Pear Salad
5. Reader Recipe- Biscuits and Gravy
6. Blueberry apple sauce
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Here's a cute idea to make hard boiled eggs special!
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I took a break for awhile on posting to my blog, but I'm back. So please check out the new recipes. So far I have 5 new recipes that will be posted within the next couple of weeks.