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Dialysis Discussion => Dialysis: Pre-Dialysis => Topic started by: jagermiester on August 22, 2011, 09:26:54 PM

Title: Blood Pressure
Post by: jagermiester on August 22, 2011, 09:26:54 PM
I'm really tired tonight and going to do a little whining to get it out of my system.   :'(

The doc's haven't been able to control my BP for a while now and I'm getting very tired.  It goes anywhere from 100/50 to 199/112.  They have given me different meds, different doses and can't just seem to get it under control.  Just really tired. 

Ok, whining over.  Back to life.  thanks for listening
Title: Re: Blood Pressure
Post by: kporter85db on August 23, 2011, 05:36:14 AM
Whine away! It's ok.
Title: Re: Blood Pressure
Post by: texasstyle on August 23, 2011, 10:22:33 AM
my husband is having the same problem but on the low side. How's your fluid? I know how frustrating it can get.
Title: Re: Blood Pressure
Post by: jagermiester on August 23, 2011, 01:47:56 PM
my husband is having the same problem but on the low side. How's your fluid? I know how frustrating it can get.

I haven't really thought much about fluid.  I know I don't drink as much as I should and I'm trying to quit drinking Dr. Pepper (that's my only vice that is hard for me to give up, but I know I have to)
Title: Re: Blood Pressure
Post by: Rerun on August 23, 2011, 02:15:24 PM
If you are on hemodialysis try and only put 1 to 2 kilos on between runs.  Mine runs low and I have unsafe blood pressure drops where my knees almost go out from under me.  I have not passed out but I come close.  I probably need to raise my dry weight.
Title: Re: Blood Pressure
Post by: Ang on August 23, 2011, 07:13:49 PM
low BP for those on dialysis predominantly comes down to to much fluid being pulled and IBW needs adjustment.

As to BP bouncing all over the place, i'd be making plenty of noise, till you get a satisfactory result
Title: Re: Blood Pressure
Post by: kristina on August 25, 2011, 01:57:08 AM

Hello, Jaegermeister,

I can only tell you of my own experience.

After my kidneys first failed in 1971 I was also left with chronic hypertension
for which I was prescribed anti-hypertensive medication.
My kidney-function gradually recovered to ~40-45% until 2006
when I was diagnosed again with ESRF (my pre-Dailysis-kidneys function 10-12% now)

Many years after my kidneys first failed, it became noticeable
that the anti-hypertensive was not controlling my BP any longer
and I experienced very unpleasant side-effects & my BP went out of control
due to my also suffering from allergies & drug-intolerance to the antihypertensives.

It took a very long time to find an answer.

Eventually it was suggested I take a cocktail of three different anti-hypertensives,
which at this time was not a common idea.

This worked for me, it controlled my BP and minimized side-effects.

This of course was purely to treat only my chronic hypertension
and my underlying condition (SLE/MCTD & chronic proliferative glomerulonephritis)
was not being treated.

Your case might be completely different in nature
& I just wanted to tell you my own experiences with hign blood-pressure.

I do hope you find a way to control your hypertension
and wish you good luck, Kristina.
Title: Re: Blood Pressure
Post by: jagermiester on August 25, 2011, 06:38:53 AM
Thank you for sharing.  I had high BP before my kidney's failed and unfortunately, after having a biopsy done, it was determined that it was my BP medicine that cause the kidney failure.  So now I have to be careful on what I take.  It's frustrating when the doctor's name of meds and then determine that they can't give me it because it will damage my kidney's. 

But, what everyone else goes through is much more worse than me having problems with BP.  I don't mean to whine about something so trivial, I just get tired of being tired.

Thanks to everyone for listening.



Hello, Jaegermeister,

I can only tell you of my own experience.

After my kidneys first failed in 1971 I was also left with chronic hypertension
for which I was prescribed anti-hypertensive medication.
My kidney-function gradually recovered to ~40-45% until 2006
when I was diagnosed again with ESRF (my pre-Dailysis-kidneys function 10-12% now)

Many years after my kidneys first failed, it became noticeable
that the anti-hypertensive was not controlling my BP any longer
and I experienced very unpleasant side-effects & my BP went out of control
due to my also suffering from allergies & drug-intolerance to the antihypertensives.

It took a very long time to find an answer.

Eventually it was suggested I take a cocktail of three different anti-hypertensives,
which at this time was not a common idea.

This worked for me, it controlled my BP and minimized side-effects.

This of course was purely to treat only my chronic hypertension
and my underlying condition (SLE/MCTD & chronic proliferative glomerulonephritis)
was not being treated.

Your case might be completely different in nature
& I just wanted to tell you my own experiences with hign blood-pressure.

I do hope you find a way to control your hypertension
and wish you good luck, Kristina.
Title: Re: Blood Pressure
Post by: macgoose on September 14, 2011, 08:03:45 PM
As my kidneys failed more and more (GFR-12), my blood pressure became more out of control e.g. on the very high side.  It took some time and juggling of meds in various dosages by the nephrologist and my primary doctor, who worked hand-in-hand to get my blood pressure under control.  I ended up taking 4 blood pressure meds,plus a diuretic, but my blood pressure at present runs about 110/70.  Hang in there and work with your doctors to combat this problem.  If your doctor doesn't agresssively attack the blood pressure problem, then you might ought
to be considering a physician that is more attuned to your needs and con communicate effectively relative to your concerns.  There is no stigma or negative vibes about changing Doctors.
It's your life thats on the table and there is no time for a lakadasical health professional.
Title: Re: Blood Pressure
Post by: matoaca on October 14, 2011, 02:30:58 PM
Hi, I am new to the  group and I am pre D.  My BP is also very unstable.  The cardio and my nephrologist are working to manage it without much success.  I am not sure what came first the bp or the kidney issues kind of like the chicken or the egg.  I also have A fibs and had a ablation and have had 2 pace makers in 4 yrs.  So I am sure that also has affected my kidneys.  Please let me know if you have found something that works with your bp. 
Title: Re: Blood Pressure
Post by: texasstyle on October 15, 2011, 05:18:09 PM
Matters of kidney disease or so complicated (as well as other health issues), but one thing I learned here is that the kidneys produce a hormone called Renin that help to regulate your BP. So with deteriorating kidney issues, you can easily see why the BP problems arise.