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Dialysis Discussion => Dialysis: Pre-Dialysis => Topic started by: kremizin on August 03, 2011, 06:31:35 AM

Title: KIBOW Biotics
Post by: kremizin on August 03, 2011, 06:31:35 AM
http://www.kibowbiotech.com/index.php

before it was kremizin and now KIBOW...you'll try everything even the quack doctors just to delay D. :(

...KIBOW seems to be promising. :clap;

anyone here who is using KIBOW? 
Title: Re: KIBOW Biotics
Post by: okarol on August 03, 2011, 11:29:11 AM
It's got STREP bacteria in it?? Good grief.  :urcrazy;
Title: Re: KIBOW Biotics
Post by: jbeany on August 03, 2011, 06:43:01 PM
I swear, when are we getting a duck icon?

kremizin - I think far too many of these things are just snake oil.
Title: Re: KIBOW Biotics
Post by: kremizin on August 06, 2011, 01:34:55 AM
okarol...Streptococcus Thermophilus is considered non pathogenic and is being used in the production of mozzarella cheese.

jbeany...i hope kibow is not one of them.


kremizin and kibow are far more expensive than having the dialysis but as long as there are possible ways to delay D, we'll give it a try....we dont want to see our mother sitting on that chair...not now. :pray;
Title: Re: KIBOW Biotics
Post by: okarol on August 06, 2011, 02:00:05 AM
This is beginning to sound like an infomercial. I really appreciate people sharing their experience when they have actually tried the products. Maybe I am too pessimistic, but if you have not discussed these alternative treatments with your mother's doctor, I hope you do.
Title: Re: KIBOW Biotics
Post by: kremizin on August 06, 2011, 02:20:39 AM
if you're thinking that I am somewhat connected to these 2 products...you're wrong.   :(

actually it was the neph who gave us the name of this supplement but leave it all up to us on where to get it since it is not locally distributed here in the Philippines.  my mother started taking this for a week now...she'll have another lab test after a month...i'll keep you posted.

sorry if I sounded like I am promoting this supplement...I started this thread thinking that it came from the US so someone here might have tried it.

sorry...we're desperate. :'(
Title: Re: KIBOW Biotics
Post by: okarol on August 06, 2011, 03:58:14 AM
This is from the National Kidney Foundation regarding supplements http://www.kidney.org/atoz/content/herbalsupp.cfm
Title: Re: KIBOW Biotics
Post by: kremizin on August 06, 2011, 04:49:41 PM
and this is not even a herb...

alright, i rest my case. kindly close this thread. thank you.
Title: Re: KIBOW Biotics
Post by: okarol on August 06, 2011, 05:58:14 PM
Hmmmm I am willing to learn. No need to close it. It's a discussion.
Title: Re: KIBOW Biotics
Post by: jbeany on August 06, 2011, 08:53:46 PM
No, please, come back and tell us what your mom's test results were, and if the supplements were the only thing she was doing differently.  I'm always super-paranoid about anything that claims to be a health supplement, since kidneys that don't function well clear them from the system at unusual rates.  They usually make some claim about being good for you as well at completely natural.  "Natural" does not mean healthy.  Uranium and rattlesnake venom are "natural."  Doesn't mean I want 'em in my system!
Title: Re: KIBOW Biotics
Post by: AguynamedKim on August 07, 2011, 03:53:32 AM
Kremizin, please let us know how it goes.  I know this is not a cure but if it helps your mom feel well and delay dialysis, then it's a temporary cure and that's something to be hopeful for.  I know I'm hoping it'll work for her.  I know that Kremezin isn't used here in the U.S. yet but it has recently completed a large, multi-national study, including sites here in the U.S..  I'm really looking forward to seeing those results.

Looking forward to hearing back from you, Kremezin.