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Dialysis Discussion => Dialysis: General Discussion => Topic started by: kristina on February 17, 2011, 07:12:51 AM
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My question is this:
In PD-home-dialysis, the liquid that “runs through” to extract “waste products”,
is it, everywhere, a glucose-based liquid or are there other types of liquid
that perform the same task?
Why glucose-based?
Furthermore, in NX-stage, is the sterile fluid also glucose-based?
Thank you, Kristina.
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There are two types of dialysate used to remove excess fluid in PD. One is dianeal, which contains dextrose. It is the dextrose that removes the excess fluid. Dianeal has a 6 hour dwell, and should be replaced at least every 6 hours. The other is extraneal, which is starch based, and has a 12-15 hour dwell, thus eliminating a midday exchange.
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Thank you for the information, peleroja.
I was wondering about the dextrose/glucose-based fluid,
because I have read it is the best medium being found
to act as the agent in the process to extract “waste-products”.
As regards “starch”, my immediate thought is that pre-Dialysis patients
and patients on Dialysis usually have to reduce their intake of starch foods.
I can appreciate that the fluid used may be some modified starch but
I wonder if this starch-based-fluid is less kind to the body
than the glucose-dextrose-based fluid?
Thanks again from Kristina.
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Correction Peleroja , in the UK there are 3 types, Dianeal and Extraneal as you stated there is also Physioneal which is glucose based. I myself couldnt tolerate Dianeal it gave me the most terrible stomach ache. However i managed to achieve 6 yrs + on Physioneal. It is also recommended over here that exchanges are four hourly (after that there is a strong possibility of re-absorption, depending on if you are a high or low transporter) Extraneal is usually only used over here for overnight dwells or if on APD a long daytime dwell. I was told it is more efficient at pulling fluid off but not as efficient at pulling toxins off , hence a combination of the two is usually used.
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Thank you so much for going into this in greater detail.
I now appreciate the complex issue of Dialysis.
I didn’t realize how complicated the Dialysis-process was,
in particular, the fact it is a two-way-issue (yes, a double-edged sword)
and therefore a balancing-act between extracting the waste-material
and absorbtion of ingredients from the Dialyte.
This really is a complicated matter and I am so pleased you took the trouble to explain it.
I hadn’t appreciated the difference between the Urea and Creatinine in the process
of being extracted from the blood.
Thanks again from Kristina.