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Dialysis Discussion => Dialysis: Pre-Dialysis => Topic started by: casper2636 on October 06, 2010, 05:38:55 PM

Title: Getting extra nutrition during D.
Post by: casper2636 on October 06, 2010, 05:38:55 PM
Because I wasn't getting enough protein, potassium, phosphorous, and sugar in my diet, my nutritionist put me on and I.V. solution of extra nutrition during D. It has made all the difference in the world! :clap; I wanted to know if anyone else has encountered this kind of treatment? I've gained 10lbs and have increased my albumin to an acceptable level, and all my other numbers have almost come up to par. I would suggest it to anyone having a problem with keeping their levels up!
Title: Re: Getting extra nutrition during D.
Post by: greg10 on October 06, 2010, 05:49:40 PM
What is the prescription and how long did it take you to gain 10 lbs?  Thanks.
Title: Re: Getting extra nutrition during D.
Post by: casper2636 on October 06, 2010, 06:11:54 PM
Greg, It only took a month 1/2 to gain the weight and start feeling better (from 85lb to 95 lbs). The script came from the Dr. directly to the pharmacy since it's I.V. all I had to do was ask and wait for my insure. to approve it. It took in all, about a month. My nutritionist help push it through, so I'd start there and move forward to the Dr. It really has helped me feel so much better, and not so weak and worn out...I try to find out it's name for you on Friday when I go back for D. The only down fall is that it does give you extra liquid that has to be removed during dialysis (390ml).
Title: Re: Getting extra nutrition during D.
Post by: Zach on October 06, 2010, 06:28:43 PM
That type of IV nutrition is referred to as IDPN (Intradialytic Parenteral Nutrition).

About 15 years ago there was a big scandal relating to fraud and abuse of IDPN in some dialysis centers, so now it is very difficult to have Medicare reimburse for it.  Glad you were able to receive the therapy, casper2636!

Here's more about the therapy:
http://www.nutrepletion.com/patientselection/idpnfaq/

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Title: Re: Getting extra nutrition during D.
Post by: casper2636 on October 06, 2010, 07:12:54 PM
Zack, thanks for the information! Its a shame centers will commit fraud on our insurance. We were just talking about that today at D. Strange charges for services that were not rendered. This hurts the well being of all of us. I always look at my insur. payments to make sure I'm getting what they are charging for!
Title: Re: Getting extra nutrition during D.
Post by: Zach on October 06, 2010, 07:24:03 PM
Actually the scandal was more about "payola" and overuse of IDPN.
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Title: Re: Getting extra nutrition during D.
Post by: greg10 on October 08, 2010, 07:58:00 PM
Thank you very much, Zach and Casper.  Useful information to have.

The problem with my father is that although healthy, he is losing weight slowly and he also doesn't eat very much.  He is also diabetic, so close monitoring of this product is needed, as noted from the URL Zach provided:

"Do I need to worry about the amount of sugar in the IDPN solution?

The amount of sugar within the IDPN solution may cause high blood sugar in non-diabetics. For this reason, blood sugars are checked before, during and after each treatment. For those that may experience high blood sugar, regular insulin can be given during IDPN therapy."