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Title: Dialyzing in CANADA
Post by: jg on August 02, 2010, 12:33:52 AM
 :canadaflag;
I noticed some other kidney patients on the website from Canada.
So I thought I would start a discussion for us.

My intro:
My name is Jeff and I now live in Calgary. After a long time with kidney disease,
I ended up in emergency with kidney failure in Kelowna B.C. in June 2006.
I was on in centre hemo for 6 months.
After that I was on pd  with Baxter Home Choice for 3.5 years.
Now I am on home nocturnal hemo  6 nights x 8 hours  with Bellco Formula machine.
I have been on the transplant list for 4 years and live 15 minutes from
the transplant centre at Foothills Hospital.

Today is a holiday called Heritage Day In Alberta.
So Happy Holiday to other Canadians.    :beer1;
jg
Title: Re: Dialyzing in CANADA
Post by: KICKSTART on August 02, 2010, 10:19:17 AM
Sorry we dont do exclusives , we all like to join in !  :rofl;   :welcomesign;
Title: Re: Dialyzing in CANADA
Post by: monrein on August 02, 2010, 03:06:30 PM
I spent the long weekend holiday at the cottage on Lake Simcoe, Ontario.
Title: Re: Dialyzing in CANADA
Post by: okarol on August 03, 2010, 02:49:40 AM
I've never been to Canada, but some of my favorite folks live there!  :waving;
Title: Re: Dialyzing in CANADA
Post by: Zach on August 03, 2010, 07:56:08 AM
O Canada!
Our home and native land!
True patriot love in all thy sons command.
With glowing hearts we see thee rise,
The True North strong and free!
From far and wide,
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.
God keep our land glorious and free!
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.

 :beer1;
Title: Re: Dialyzing in CANADA
Post by: Razman on August 03, 2010, 04:51:11 PM
  Hi , from another Canadian.  I work for a US company and they don't care about any holidays!  It may have been a long weekend but I still had to work and prepare financial reports to meet the corporate deadlines ! 
Title: Re: Dialyzing in CANADA
Post by: del on August 04, 2010, 01:55:25 PM
Hi from another Canadian!!!  I am on the east coast in Newfoundland!!!  My husband does nocturnal home hemo with a fresenius machine. He has been on dialysis for 13 years and on nocturnal hemo for the past 4!!!  I really appreciate Canada's MCP.  I shiver when I think about not having it!!

Everyone is welcome, Kickstart!!
Title: Re: Dialyzing in CANADA
Post by: Phraxis on August 04, 2010, 06:00:18 PM
Another Canadian here. I have had the "pleasure" of dializing in Vancouver and Calgary. Though in Sept I was fortunate enough to receive a transplant (gift from my sister). I am here in Calgary while she and her husband enjoy their 10th anniversary in Vegas.
Title: Re: Dialyzing in CANADA
Post by: natnnnat on August 04, 2010, 06:08:36 PM
I'm not sure, but I don't think Zach is Canadian.  Although he sounds Canadian in this thread...  Just sayin.  :angel;
Title: Re: Dialyzing in CANADA
Post by: Zach on August 04, 2010, 07:50:15 PM
I'm not sure, but I don't think Zach is Canadian.  Although he sounds Canadian in this thread...  Just sayin.  :angel;

You are correct, I'm not Canadian.
But I like their national anthem!
 :beer1;
Title: Re: Dialyzing in CANADA
Post by: natnnnat on August 04, 2010, 08:26:48 PM
 :beer1;
Title: Re: Dialyzing in CANADA
Post by: monrein on August 05, 2010, 03:41:08 AM
I posted this elsewhere on IHD (a thread about Canada Day I think it was), but here is a new "anthem" of sorts.  Now it's nothing at all about dialyzing in Canada so it's off topic and it's supposed to be tongue in cheek cute so please don't take it too seriously anyone.  Canada is my chosen adopted home (10th generation Jamaican born with a U.S passport) where I feel very comfortable indeed and where dialysis and medical care in general have been very kind to me also.  When I immigrated here at 15 (my family went to Miami) I naively though that it was my patriotic duty to learn French since it's our second official language...wasn't in fact necessary but love the language and the Quebecois and teaching French was my first career.  I digress, yet again...here's a catchy little ditty for your amusement.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWQf13B8epw
Title: Re: Dialyzing in CANADA
Post by: jg on August 05, 2010, 06:17:49 PM
I am not well enough to work right now, so a holiday feels like just another day.
One of the best parts of the Canadian medical system for me is the occasional quick service.
I was at the hemo clinic for blood work on Wednesday, and the nurse didn't  like the spasms on my access arm.
So she got me an appointment THE NEXT DAy at the kidney access clinic.
(They said everything is okay).

How do other people find the Canadian system?

Monrein:  My family has had a summer cottage on Lake Simcoe since the 1950s. It is near Jackson's Point and Sutton about an hour from Toronto.
I used to spend summers there when I wasn't at summer camp.

Del: I use the Bellco machine for home hemo. I hate it! It is cumbersome and complicated to use. But my kidney doctor says it is the best for 8 hours of dialysis.
Do you have an opinion of your husband's machine.

Phraxis: What was your experience of dialyzing?  My training has been at the new Chumir Building, just south of downtown Calgary.

Do people have a favourite centre for dailysis?

Thanks for responding,  Jeff           
Title: Re: Dialyzing in CANADA
Post by: del on August 05, 2010, 06:40:12 PM
We find the fresenius machine very user friendly. In 4 years we have had very little trouble with the machine.  They are very reliable machines.  Hubby does 7 hours a night but most people who are on it do 8 hours. Hubby's labs are always excellent - except for his PTH being up to 1300 now!!  I have never heard of the Bellco machine.
Title: Re: Dialyzing in CANADA
Post by: monrein on August 05, 2010, 08:50:46 PM
jg I know Sutton and Jackson's point very very well.  Our family cottage is at Duclos Point, where my husband's family has been going since 1947.  We look across at Georgina Island.

I liked dialyzing at the self-care clinic I went to...it was a satellite program of the Toronto General and a couple of other Toronto hospitals.  Subway was in the basement of the building so very convenient.   I've been with my neph since 1985 and am very fond of my team and have great confidence in them overall.
Title: Re: Dialyzing in CANADA
Post by: woodsman on August 05, 2010, 10:51:14 PM
ah YES SIMCOE I ice fish there every year, perrerlaw, beverton,
Title: Re: Dialyzing in CANADA
Post by: carson on August 07, 2010, 03:04:47 PM
Hey!!! I, too, am Canadian - I live just outside of Collingwood, Ontario. What a great place to live and play, and of course dialyze!
I do nocturnal home hemo using the "formula" machine, 8 hours 6 or 7 nights/week (my choice - I have trouble sleeping without the white noise!)
 :welcomesign;
Title: Re: Dialyzing in CANADA
Post by: mogee on August 07, 2010, 11:04:37 PM
I'm a native (non aboriginal) Torontonian.  Everyone in Ontario who has ESRD can enjoy a week at Lion's Camp Dorset.  They have on site dialysis.  I just returned with my daughter.  Anyone else at TGH nocturnal home hemo?
Title: Re: Dialyzing in CANADA
Post by: carson on August 08, 2010, 08:51:52 AM
yes Mogee, I am!!
Title: Re: Dialyzing in CANADA
Post by: takamore on August 08, 2010, 10:16:30 AM
i am TGH.. not home, im in centre at tgh, and i too just  returned from camp dorset .. my first time and it was absolutely wonderfull!!!
i understand the only other dialysis camp in canada is a children-only one in BC... its such a great experience, there should be more of them... do they have such camps in US or overseas?
Title: Re: Dialyzing in CANADA
Post by: monrein on August 08, 2010, 06:43:41 PM
I was in center at TGH when I first started back on D in May of 2008...I think I did three weeks there then switched to the self-care unit at the Sheppard centre.
Camp Dorset is a terrific program and we're very lucky to have it for families to be able to get away together in spite of dialysis.
Title: Re: Dialyzing in CANADA
Post by: jg on August 11, 2010, 09:05:36 PM
I noticed thread on the website where people mention in center nocturnal hemo.
I have never heard of this in Canada.
Does anyone know if this is available in Canada?

Also, I like some other posters use the Bellco Formula Home Care for home nocturnal hemo.
I find it time consuming and not user friendly.
It there a better machine for nocturnal?
What about the nxstage machine?
From a youtube video, it looks easier to set up, compact  and maybe you don't
a household water hook up.

Jeff                        :canadaflag;
Title: Re: Dialyzing in CANADA
Post by: Riki on August 12, 2010, 11:09:36 AM
I'm in Canada too!  PEI doesn't have the holiday in August, so... yeah.. *L*

I was in Ottawa last weekend.  I had dialysis Friday at the Riverside Hospital.  I was surprised that they used gauze and tape instead of bandaids there.  In Manhattan, they had sure seals, but you had to pay for them.  At this place, they didn't have anything. I had a couple of savons (great big white bandages with the foam in them) so I used those.  There was no way I was going to have just gauze and tape.  At least they had blankets at this place, even if they weren't heated.  I think we might be a bit spoiled in Charlottetown.
Title: Re: Dialyzing in CANADA
Post by: del on August 12, 2010, 12:37:40 PM
nxstage is not available in Canada jg. Wish it was!!!  Our fresenius machine that we use is user friendly and not time consuming. Takes maybe an hour to set up but you can go do other things while it is setting up. We are getting a new fresenius machine next week.
Title: Re: Dialyzing in CANADA
Post by: RenalSurvivorDotCA on August 12, 2010, 01:25:46 PM
nxstage is not available in Canada jg. Wish it was!!!  Our fresenius machine that we use is user friendly and not time consuming. Takes maybe an hour to set up but you can go do other things while it is setting up. We are getting a new fresenius machine next week.

Late to the convo. Another Canuck here! I'm in Saint john, New Brunswick.

del, I'll be using the Fresenius machine for home hemo also. I start my training as soon as they have space for me in the Dialysis Teaching unit.
Title: Re: Dialyzing in CANADA
Post by: carson on August 14, 2010, 02:40:58 PM
Del, the machine that Jb and I use is the Bellco formula. It takes me 30 minutes to set up and about 30 to undo in the am (only because it takes that long to disinfect) All the while I do other things - get ready for bed or make my breakfast. I have yet to see a dialysis machine that doesn't require some time to get set up. Even when I was in hospital a month ago it took the techs longer to set up the fresenius machine than it does for me to set up my machine at home.
My neph told me the Nxstage machine is not very good for what programs we offer here in Canada. In the US it's different because of their health care system. Anyway, that's my take on things
Title: Re: Dialyzing in CANADA
Post by: mogee on August 18, 2010, 11:20:07 PM
I noticed thread on the website where people mention in center nocturnal hemo.
I have never heard of this in Canada.
Does anyone know if this is available in Canada?

Also, I like some other posters use the Bellco Formula Home Care for home nocturnal hemo.
I find it time consuming and not user friendly.
It there a better machine for nocturnal?
What about the nxstage machine?


In-centre nocturnal is available in Toronto at the St. Micheal's hospital.  I use a Bellco Formula and have several years experience with the Gambro Integra.  The sad truth is that there are no more user friendly or time-effective machines available in Canada for home dialysis.  The NxStage machine, I've been told, is not approved for use by Health Canada and there seems to be little motivation on the part of the machine's manufacturer to get it approved. 
Title: Re: Dialyzing in CANADA
Post by: jg on August 24, 2010, 03:02:31 PM
Everyone:
I thought I would pass on some Dialysis related info.

1. There is a Canadian group of educators, patients etc. called IMPACKD. From googling, they seem to
focus on the build up of calcium related to binders.

2. In 2006 when I was in Kelowna, an American named Shad Ireland gave a talk. He is on hemo and
does Ironman competitions. He also gives grants to patients for exercise equipment, sports equipment
etc. His Canadian website is shadirelandfoundation.ca

3. The Kidney Foundation of Canada has a peer to peer phone buddy system (free). I was hooked up to
get support from a pd patient in Medicine Hat, Alberta for a few years.

Has anyone heard of a product called RedSense that is a blood detection alarm? According to their website,
it is available in Canada.       :bestwishes;  Jeff             :canadaflag;
Title: Re: Dialyzing in CANADA
Post by: del on August 24, 2010, 03:39:19 PM
Not sure what our blood detector alarm is called. Hubby puts it on his arm next to his needles every night.  Think it is the same type of alarm systm they use for bedwetters!!
Title: Re: Dialyzing in CANADA
Post by: Riki on August 27, 2010, 07:53:09 AM
I'm a member of IMPACKD.  One of the things that they are working on new is a regulation for food manufacturers to put phosphorus and potassium content on the label as part of the nutrition facts
Title: Re: Dialyzing in CANADA
Post by: mogee on August 28, 2010, 11:55:45 PM
I'm a member of IMPACKD.  One of the things that they are working on new is a regulation for food manufacturers to put phosphorus and potassium content on the label as part of the nutrition facts

I hope for your success.  It is usually impossible to tell unless you've memorized a huge list, it would help people avoid many high k and ph foods.
Title: Re: Dialyzing in CANADA
Post by: Dex on August 30, 2010, 11:06:50 AM
I'm also in Calgary, but on PD, the clinic i've been treated at for the last few years now is health on 12th, or the Sheldon Chumir building, absolutely fantastic staff, very personal and always remeber my name :) even though i'm only in once every 3 months or so.
Title: Re: Dialyzing in CANADA
Post by: murf on August 31, 2010, 02:14:40 AM
I think Canadians are so mature when It comes with dealing with their British background. In Australia, we still have the Union Jack on our flag and the Queen is still the head of state. She could still dismiss the government if she so desires. Just love the Canadian flag and their system of government. 
Title: Re: Dialyzing in CANADA
Post by: Henry P Snicklesnorter on August 31, 2010, 03:24:09 AM
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Title: Re: Dialyzing in CANADA
Post by: mogee on September 01, 2010, 12:27:33 AM
I think Canadians are so mature when It comes with dealing with their British background. In Australia, we still have the Union Jack on our flag and the Queen is still the head of state. She could still dismiss the government if she so desires. Just love the Canadian flag and their system of government.

Our system of government is barely different from yours.  Our head of state is the Queen, represented by a Governor General federally, and Lieutenants Governor in the several provinces.  The GG was recently called upon by the P.M. to disperse parliament early.  She did, in accordance with constitutional custom.  Our flag was created in 1966, over great fury with some who wanted the union jack to be part of Canada's flag.
Title: Re: Dialyzing in CANADA
Post by: huldafolk on September 02, 2010, 08:51:34 AM
HI all,  Dialysis in Manitoba here, Winnipeg to be exact.  We have many centers in hospitals around the city, but only one separate self standing one. I go there. I can't stand it when I travel and have to go to isolation at CENTRAL HSC until the swabs results come back. How stupid. I can go to a hospital within Manitoba/way up to Thompson or Churchill and no isolation or swabs, but if I cross into NW Ontario and go to the hospital in Kenora for treatment when on holiday all the isolation crap starts up going both ways.  What is this stupidity??  More chance it would seem to me to get a MERSA exposure in northern Manitoba hospital.  I dialyze  in a teaching hospital, we seem to have training RN's all the time coming thru. They rotate which patient they send them to, but I will tell you there are good ones and useless ones. My fistula angles as it goes up to my shoulder and some needle in straight even if I point it out to them, then blow out the back of the vessel.  Not pleased. Don't like being a guinea pig for the process, but I understand they have to start somewhere, by why me??  Happy I don't pay cash out of pocket for all of this/ I am a multi-million dollar man at this point after all the operations/complications/test/scans/dialysis/consults etc/. Just paid thru the nose at TAX time!!!!
Title: Re: Dialyzing in CANADA
Post by: Riki on September 02, 2010, 11:33:31 AM
We're swabbed here whenever we travel too, before we leave, and after we get back, or if we've been in hospital outside of the province.  That happens a lot, because if anything happens with our kidney disease that isn't easily treated, we have to go to Halifax. All the dialysis units on PEI are satellites of the main unit in Halifax
Title: Re: Dialyzing in CANADA
Post by: jg on September 02, 2010, 02:03:03 PM
Huldafolk:
Perhaps by talking to a supervisor, they would let you put the needles in yourself.
You could "train" the nurses by showing them how to successfully  do it.     :cheer:

I do home nocturnal hemo. Does anyone know of in centers that allow
patients to self needle?

Jeff          :canadaflag;
Title: Re: Dialyzing in CANADA
Post by: Riki on September 02, 2010, 02:10:47 PM
I don't know of any centres that don't allow people to self needle.  I know one guy in my unit does. He has buttonholes. There's a girl with a liine who connects herself and does her own dressings as well.
Title: Re: Dialyzing in CANADA
Post by: lorna on October 08, 2010, 02:17:09 AM
any bad experiences in the calgary area?
Title: Re: Dialyzing in CANADA
Post by: jg on October 11, 2010, 08:44:22 AM
Today is Thanksgiving in Canada.
So happy Thanksgiving Day to everyone.    :clap;
It is not easy to have kidney failure, be on dialysis, waiting for a transplant and be thankful.
But the sun is shining here in Calgary. There is a big football game - Calgary vs Montreal.
And a low sodium meal to look forward to.    :2thumbsup;
 :bestwishes;
Jeff

Title: Re: Dialyzing in CANADA
Post by: Bruno on October 12, 2010, 02:58:18 AM
Sorry to butt in, but this thread is really interesting. I am astonished that nobody self needles...here in Sydney you can't do home dialysis unless you learn to. We use the button hole technique that makes it reasonably easy.
Title: Re: Dialyzing in CANADA
Post by: RenalSurvivorDotCA on October 12, 2010, 07:38:30 AM
I do home nocturnal hemo. Does anyone know of in centers that allow
patients to self needle?

Jeff          :canadaflag;

I don't know of any centres that don't allow people to self needle.  I know one guy in my unit does. He has buttonholes. There's a girl with a liine who connects herself and does her own dressings as well.

My unit allows self needling. I do it but I use sharps rather than buttonholes/blunts. I just rotate my sites. I am currently waiting for a spot in Dialysis Teaching to do nocturnal home hemo. I plan to do 8hrs/night x 6 nights a week. Can't wait for no fluid restrictions and no food restrictions.  Woohoo!   :yahoo;
Title: Re: Dialyzing in CANADA
Post by: del on October 12, 2010, 04:48:20 PM
Hubby can self needle. He has buttonholes.  I have made him lazy though by doing the needles for him!!