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Dialysis Discussion => Dialysis: General Discussion => Topic started by: KICKSTART on March 08, 2010, 02:23:01 PM

Title: Renvela
Post by: KICKSTART on March 08, 2010, 02:23:01 PM
Anyone on this ? (its a binder) Ive just been prescribed it (after making my neph aware of it !!!) The dietician came over to me the other day and said no you mean Renegel , i said NO its Renvela ..oh she said its that new one ,its only just been approved for use over here , so you will be the first one in the unit to try it ..this should be interesting ! ....gulp !
Title: Re: Renvela
Post by: okarol on March 08, 2010, 02:42:18 PM
Found on the internet:

Both drugs are made by the same company.

Genzyme refers to Renvela as the next-generation version of Renagel, which was approved by the FDA in 1998 to treat phosphorus levels in dialysis patients. Like Renagel, Renvela is a calcium-free, metal-free, non-absorbed phosphate binder, according to Genzyme. The difference between the two drugs is that Renvela has a carbonate buffer.

In a clinical study comparing Renvela to Renagel, both drugs controlled serum phosphorus equally to within KDOQI recommended ranges. Patients on Renvela, however, were more likely to maintain bicarbonate levels within the recommended KDOQI ranges, and had a lower incidence of gastrointestinal adverse events.

Title: Re: Renvela
Post by: monrein on March 08, 2010, 02:44:54 PM
http://ihatedialysis.com/forum/index.php?topic=9497.0  Here's a previous thread about it.
Title: Re: Renvela
Post by: okarol on March 08, 2010, 02:48:21 PM
http://ihatedialysis.com/forum/index.php?topic=9497.0  Here's a previous thread about it.

 :2thumbsup; Thanks, I couldn't find this.
Title: Re: Renvela
Post by: KICKSTART on March 08, 2010, 03:48:47 PM
Thanks guys  :2thumbsup;  Im just waiting for it to be ordered specially . so i havent got it yet ! But i will keep you informed once i start on it . I have a lot of trouble with binders ..stomach ache or throwing up , so hopefully i might be able to tolerate this one !
Title: Re: Renvela
Post by: silverhead on March 08, 2010, 04:36:39 PM
My only problem with Renvela is the price - $275 for 30 pills, 1 or 2 pills per meal, so lets say 3 per day, that's 90 per month, that's $825 bucks a month that I don't have, so she has to keep taking Tums and try to control the high Calcium and PTH some other way.....
Tom
Title: Re: Renvela
Post by: okarol on March 08, 2010, 04:52:39 PM
My only problem with Renvela is the price - $275 for 30 pills, 1 or 2 pills per meal, so lets say 3 per day, that's 90 per month, that's $825 bucks a month that I don't have, so she has to keep taking Tums and try to control the high Calcium and PTH some other way.....
Tom

In case you missed it - here's the patient assistance info for Renagel/Renvela
http://ihatedialysis.com/forum/index.php?topic=18093.0
Title: Re: Renvela
Post by: Lillupie on March 08, 2010, 09:06:06 PM
i take Renvela. Here, it has taken the place of Renevela. I guess it is pretty much the same thing as Renegel. I have been on the new med since September.

Lisa
Title: Re: Renvela
Post by: YLGuy on March 09, 2010, 08:06:44 AM
My only problem with Renvela is the price - $275 for 30 pills, 1 or 2 pills per meal, so lets say 3 per day, that's 90 per month, that's $825 bucks a month that I don't have, so she has to keep taking Tums and try to control the high Calcium and PTH some other way.....
Tom

Don't you have Medicare?  I pay $1.10 for 270 pills.
Title: Re: Renvela
Post by: silverhead on March 09, 2010, 08:14:33 AM
Yes, we have Medicare, but the "doughnut hole" is reached real fast, then you pay whatever they want to charge. which in my mind is an outrageous price per pill.......
Title: Re: Renvela
Post by: paul.karen on March 09, 2010, 08:39:43 AM
I was on it.  Had no problems although my insurance company decided i should be on something else = cheaper. 
My main problem is remembering to take them..................

Hope they work well for you KS and that they dont make you sick or nauseated.
Title: Re: Renvela
Post by: billybags on March 09, 2010, 10:52:49 AM
Who's going to be a guinea pig then! let us know how you go on. Are they cheaper than Renagel do you think?
Title: Re: Renvela
Post by: KICKSTART on March 09, 2010, 11:12:29 AM
No billy , they are supposed to be an advancement on Renagel ! Moi take cheap tat ...lmao   :rofl;  They might turn me into a little  >:D
Title: Re: Renvela
Post by: BigSky on March 09, 2010, 12:12:50 PM
Been on it a year or more and , havent noticed any difference from Renagel.
Title: Re: Renvela
Post by: sullidog on March 09, 2010, 05:12:09 PM
I'm on both. The reason why I say this every time I'm admited to the hospital they give me renvella because they don't have renagel. It feels the same and smells the same but my only difference I notice is that renvella is easier on my stomach.
Troy
Title: Re: Renvela
Post by: Malibu on March 10, 2010, 07:20:33 PM
It made my hubbys tummy feel awful. 

We paid $825 for the first batch.

NOTE:  THE COMPANY WHO MAKES IT WILL NOT HELP YOU (PATIENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM) IF YOU HAVE ANY FORM OF INSURANCE. 

With our Medicare D it is $137.00.

Good luck!
Title: Re: Renvela
Post by: jojosmommy on March 12, 2010, 01:20:45 PM
Guess I'm lucky, with my insurance I only pay the regular copay as anything else.  I've been on Renvela for a couple months... at first it made me feel sick when I took it, but I guess I've gotten used to it and it doesn't bother me as much as it used to. 
Title: Re: Renvela
Post by: FindingNeverland on March 12, 2010, 04:44:36 PM
I've been on it since January and I've not had any problems with it.
Title: Re: Renvela
Post by: KICKSTART on March 13, 2010, 03:00:10 AM
Thanks for the input guys . Paying for it ..i dont have to worry about that one ..thanks to the NHS ! Its just i havent found a binder yet that doesnt upset my stomach , so here's hoping !
Title: Re: Renvela
Post by: *kana* on March 15, 2010, 04:17:02 PM
I take 12-14 Renvela a day and my co-pay is $80 for 3mths.  I don't have any problems with it and other then lowering my phos level it also binds cholesterol.  My cholesterol went from 270 to 160 in 6mths!  Finally a side effect that is positive!