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Title: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: tyefly on February 07, 2010, 04:15:37 PM
Another tread to loose more time in life with........Does today matter or not.......   Nope   today does not matter cause the foot ball game is on  and  I dont care about foot ball......   so I will wait for tomorrow.... :rofl;



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Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: dwcrawford on February 07, 2010, 04:45:03 PM
Today does matter because the football game is on and I expect to win some money.
Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: willowtreewren on February 07, 2010, 04:47:25 PM
Today matters because I got to see some old friends and go out for lunch with others. Football is not on my radar.
Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: del on February 07, 2010, 05:27:12 PM
Today does matter because it is another piece in the puzzle of your life!!
Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: Jean on February 07, 2010, 07:28:32 PM
Today matters because tomorrow I will wish it was yesterday.
Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: tyefly on February 07, 2010, 07:33:23 PM
Great reply    :clap;
Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: paris on February 07, 2010, 08:50:53 PM
Today matters because it may be the only day you have.   
Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: glitter on February 07, 2010, 09:18:06 PM
Today matters because it may be the only day you have.

and thats why today matters to me, someday tomorrow will never come
Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: dwcrawford on February 08, 2010, 05:10:48 AM
Today matters about as much as yesterday did and tomorrow will....
Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: aharris2 on February 08, 2010, 05:20:42 AM
Today matters because i am expecting a BIG CHECK from dw!

WHO DAT!!!
Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: fc2821 on February 08, 2010, 07:22:57 AM
    Today matters because the "Super Bowl Movement" finally  is over for yet another year.  Now we can get back to watching a real sport,  hockey!!!!!    :2thumbsup; :2thumbsup; :2thumbsup;
Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: willowtreewren on February 08, 2010, 07:42:37 AM
Today matters because my students need me.
Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: fc2821 on February 08, 2010, 07:45:10 AM
    A serious answer:

       Today matters, because you never know whose life you are going to affect today and how. 
Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: tyefly on February 08, 2010, 08:07:33 AM
Today matters cause I only have two more days and I am on my own with nxstage.....
Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: dwcrawford on February 08, 2010, 06:37:18 PM
I'm sure it does to someone.
Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: willowtreewren on February 08, 2010, 06:49:20 PM
And, Dan, you matter to someone.
Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: tyefly on February 08, 2010, 09:11:22 PM
Dan   today does matter cause you changed your avatar..... I love it     forest fires are wonderfull........  and now you made my day brighter......... :2thumbsup;
Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: Stoday on February 08, 2010, 09:13:20 PM
Today only matters if you make it matter.
Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: Des on February 08, 2010, 11:18:01 PM
Today matters, because I am here when my kids get home after school and I greet them with hugs, ready made french toast and juice.

Today matters because we are all worthy to be here.

To the world you might just be someone but to someone you are their world.
Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: dwcrawford on February 09, 2010, 06:09:14 AM
Todays, yesterdays and tomorrows are simply crutches for our limited minds to grasp on to the fact that time has no boundaries.  Does today matter is the same question as does my life matter or does or does eternity matter.   Is it possible that the answer to your question is based upon where we are at any given instance?  Is it possible that your question has no definitive answer?  Is it possible that there are no definitive answers to any questions?
Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: willowtreewren on February 09, 2010, 08:42:07 AM
Today matters by whatever measure we give it. Sure, we can be defeatists and give up. but I don't want to. I want to rage against the dark.
Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: fc2821 on February 09, 2010, 09:30:21 AM
Todays, yesterdays and tomorrows are simply crutches for our limited minds to grasp on to the fact that time has no boundaries.  Does today matter is the same question as does my life matter or does or does eternity matter.   Is it possible that the answer to your question is based upon where we are at any given instance?  Is it possible that your question has no definitive answer?  Is it possible that there are no definitive answers to any questions?
   
     The importance is determined by the "observer".  The answers are what you "find" in your "journey". 

     Today matters because I'm a part of it!   That's egotistical, I know, but since I am the main player in my special little drama (my life) then it matters.  When I'm no longer "around" well I don't think it'll matter ( to me) that much. 
      All this is too esoteric for me right now anyway. 
Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: Stoday on February 09, 2010, 12:39:08 PM
Alike for those who for To-day prepare,
And those that after some To-morrow stare,
A Muezzin from the Tower of Darkness cries
"Fools! your Reward is neither Here nor There."
Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: dwcrawford on February 09, 2010, 12:47:01 PM
For the time being, please, read my signature line before reading my post.
Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: twirl on February 09, 2010, 01:29:52 PM
yes today matters -- it is a T day and I am not at dialysis

crawford   is that Jesus

and donkeys are still funny -- especiallly yours
Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: dwcrawford on February 09, 2010, 01:36:47 PM
That's not Jesus.  They are souls in hell.  Jesus wouldn't be in hell.
Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: monrein on February 09, 2010, 03:11:13 PM
Does today matter or does it not?
The question seems moot...since it's all we've got

Yesterday is gone, it exists no more
Tomorrow beckons but it's far from sure

So I'll make today count, each moment therein
And hope that life's total will add up to a win.
Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: del on February 09, 2010, 06:18:58 PM
Does today matter or does it not?
The question seems moot...since it's all we've got

Yesterday is gone, it exists no more
Tomorrow beckons but it's far from sure

So I'll make today count, each moment therein
And hope that life's total will add up to a win.

 :thumbup; That sort of says it all!!
Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: Stoday on February 10, 2010, 06:49:11 AM
That's not Jesus.  They are souls in hell.  Jesus wouldn't be in hell.

Hell? Tartarus more like. As far below Hades as heaven is above the earth, where the worst people are sent to be tormented. Sisyphus and Tantalus spend eternity there...
Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: del on February 10, 2010, 06:50:51 AM
Today is tomorrow's yesterday!!!
Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: dwcrawford on February 10, 2010, 07:04:28 AM
That's not Jesus.  They are souls in hell.  Jesus wouldn't be in hell.

Hell? Tartarus more like. As far below Hades as heaven is above the earth, where the worst people are sent to be tormented. Sisyphus and Tantalus spend eternity there...

Huh?
Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: tyefly on February 10, 2010, 08:19:52 AM
   Yea   whats with that .... ???      ???     ???    ???    ??? 
Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: willowtreewren on February 10, 2010, 10:55:50 AM
Today matters....did chemical reactions with my little guys in science today. We made two gases, CO2 and oxygen. Tested both gases for burning with a splint and "WOW" the oxygen sure does burn!  :2thumbsup;

I love the reactions from kids... "Do it again!"

So, yeah, today matters. I may have started one of those young souls on the road to being a scientist!
Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: fc2821 on February 10, 2010, 11:02:02 AM
       Does today matter  or not?     You have to answer that question yourself for yourself.   
Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: pamster42000 on February 10, 2010, 03:19:42 PM
Every day matters! If  something happens and you are not here tomarrow it will make a BIG difference in the lives of the people who know and love you. My grandson, 2 years old, fell down and hit his head. He quit breathing for a moment and that defines how special a person is in your life at that moment. He is fine but he is so much more special to me because I know it just takes a second and your life can change forever.
Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: Bub on February 10, 2010, 04:09:35 PM
Today does matter.  It is between Tuesday and Thursday (dialysis days) so as an off day I can live normally.

I think Tartarus was to be prepared only for Satan and his demons, not for mankind?  Of course I may be completely confused.
Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: dwcrawford on February 10, 2010, 05:02:40 PM
Pamster,  I respect you so much, but you must realize that today, tomorrow and yesterday have much less meaning for people who have no one to live for or care for other than computer friends.  It would be so nice to have grandchildren, relatives or even real friends who don't have huge families of their own.  When people say tomorrow matters because I want to be here for a certain person or activity or anything, they ignore the fact that there are old people who are just here, going through illinesses and sometimes dialysis treatments and whose only hope is to make it through that day.

I'm so glad it matters to a lot of you  for one reason or another.  It doesn't for everyone.

Just my penny's worth.
Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: paris on February 10, 2010, 07:16:37 PM
Pam, you have experienced first hand how important today is.  Losing Sarah had to make you look at everyday as a gift.  A  mother's grief has no comparison.   I love hearing your stories of your lovely daughter.  It makes me appreciate every sunrise.   Thank you for opening your heart and sharing your story.     :cuddle;     And I am so glad your grandson is ok.  I can't imagine how worried you were.   

Today matters for me---what can I do to make a difference today?   
Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: dwcrawford on February 10, 2010, 09:14:34 PM
Oh Pam, I respect you too.  You know that.  People with really big families that they can talk to and brag on or volunteer with, just can't seem to have empathy for those who don't.  That was my point.  It certainly wasn't a put down to you.  I love talking to you in the chat.  But you know that, I think.  I'm having a bad time right now and I felt you'd be one who could understand.  I guess it should have been private or in the chat or something.

When Tyefly started the thread she said it was to lose more time with.  Seemed like a place to express some thoughts where you cannot usually express them -- I mean, maybe just to get some things out.
Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: tyefly on February 10, 2010, 09:50:32 PM
  Thank You    Dan...... Sometimes it nice to  express........ about life....  no boundaries
Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: paris on February 10, 2010, 10:26:20 PM
Even in a crowded room, one can feel all alone.   I don't think it is the people around you that makes today matter.  Nor the size of your familiy or circle of friends.   It comes down to you and your day.   Face to face - what can this day mean to me or what can I do with this day.  A new possibility every single day.  I screwed up yesterday, today I can do better.     One of the amazing women I know is in her early 70's, survived a double mastectomy, buried her son, has no other family and was in a very low place.  One day she decided she would love to dress up like a drag queen!  She wanted to wear big gowns and big hair and sing songs!  She started volunteering with the Alliance (not knowing a single person there) and now performs every month.  This month she is going to be Dolly Parton!!  Everyone loves her.  She was in a dark place and one day (could have been any "today") decided she could be anything she wanted to be and did it.  I love Miss Fran (she goes by Miss Diagnosed)  and admire what she did with her day  ----- her one day that matters.     Wonder what any of us could do with a "day that matters"?    Just a thought.
Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: okarol on February 11, 2010, 12:00:14 AM
Today is the tomorrow we worried about yesterday. ~ Author Unknown

Today matters to me. One day at a time.
Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: Jean on February 11, 2010, 12:50:41 AM
My favorite saying, Karol. One day at a time. So, yes, today is important. Oh, and today was my birthday, and I had such a great day, so many people called, or sent cards, or sent gifts and I had my favorite dinner, so yes, if I die tonight, I will have had a happy day today. And that is important.
Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: dwcrawford on February 11, 2010, 05:02:49 AM
Am I the only person on this website who is alone?  I can't believe not one other person can understand waht I am saying.  Last week things were ok even though I couldn't GO and DO as I once did.  But now it is getting to me.  What  other people do and can't do is not a response to "Does today matter" to  me.

The one time I tried to express what is going on, I feel totally rejected.  Last week with the funny donkeys everything was fine.  I simply don't feel funny or entertaining anymore.  Except fo dialysis I've not been out of th is house in weeks and the only contact I've had with people is when they needed money and stopped by for a check.  Doesn't make me feel good.

Some of you have felt it before.  You've written it before and received support. 
Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: dwcrawford on February 11, 2010, 05:23:47 AM
Sorry.  Shouldn't have posted below but forgot how to erase it.
Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: billybags on February 11, 2010, 05:41:58 AM
Hi dwcrawford, sorry to hear you are on your own and have not been out of the house for weeks. Why? or is that a daft question, if it is I apologies. You will get down if you do not see any one, it would drive me nuts. Even going to hemo you can feel you are on your own with every one doing there own thing there.. When my husband was there he said the people did not want to communicate with each other. I don't know what the answer is, but you need to do some thing, any thing. I send you hugs, pity I can not put my arms around you.
Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: dwcrawford on February 11, 2010, 07:49:15 AM
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Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: twirl on February 11, 2010, 08:22:32 AM
hi crawfish and sorry you are down -- you always bring me up
this weather is depressing --
dreary weather --
read my pm to you --
too private to write here
cheryl
Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: del on February 11, 2010, 08:28:29 AM
Dan I am so sorry for what is going on.  Dialysis is difficult enough without having to put up with stuff like that.  The tech should be reprimanded for going against what the nurse said.  You should not have to leave -you have the right to be there and to be treated properly.

Electronic communication can often be open to interpretation.  There is no body language to let you know if the person is just joking or being sarcastic or what. We also have no way of really knowing what kind of day that person has had or what other things have been going on in their life.  There have been a few times when I have said something and it has been taken by some other people a lot differently than I meant it!!  I have had to go back and explain myself or sometimes I have just left it.

Keep plugging along Dan. :cuddle;  Sounds like your nurse is very supportive. Hey if being friends with your dialysis nurses is a nono hubby is in a lot of trouble.  he became friends with most of his nurses and still keeps in touch!!
Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: fc2821 on February 11, 2010, 09:57:03 AM
     Dan, of course it matters. Stand up for yourself.  Don't let them push you around, and if they don't like it tell them they can kiss your  :sir ken;
   
     
Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: Xbandito on February 11, 2010, 10:12:05 AM
Time for Danny boy to have a PADDY ....techs need a good  :Kit n Stik; every now an then, learnt that one in three weeks  ;D.
    Hey I can soon start on the donkeys again  :2thumbsup;

"I simply don't feel funny or entertaining anymore."   I beg to differ on that sentence, you made me smile as soon as I joined this site and you continue to do so (though with my country bumpkin mind, it takes a few secs to catch on) and as for the chats we have.  :oops;..well the "ladies" will agree with me.
I told you in chat.....use your humour, good looks (thats what B said) and hook up with a nurse (preferably one from a different dept) and live life to the full :shy;
If ya dont.....I will send the Irish Saint over there to sort you out..... :rofl;
Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: fc2821 on February 11, 2010, 10:46:03 AM
    Dan you've brought many a smile to the faces of people at IHD.  Me included.  I miss the donkeys...Oh wait you brought one back.  I've got to find a picture of a (that's a suprise) to change my avatar to.
Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: dwcrawford on February 11, 2010, 11:01:19 AM
Guys and Del,  I'd posted so negatively the past few days and didn't want to continue on that note.  It's not your fault.  You chat room friends mean a lot to  me.  And I have a private donkey for you Rob and Phil (sorry del, x rated).

I just wanted people who seemed to care to know it wasn't all in my imagination.  You'd be really surprise what people care and which ones could care less about things that don't affect them.  Yes, it is the people with all the special words of support for each other. 

I'm sorry about  someone criticizing you Rob, but hang in.  Don't leave.  I need you hear.  You can go in  March if you still want to.  lol
Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: okarol on February 11, 2010, 11:08:34 AM
I moved this from off-topic as dialysis has been mentioned.

The topic made me think about what a day might mean for a kidney patient. I was talking to Jenna about how amazing dialysis is. Without it she would have died on or near December 22, 2004. She had gone from a creatinine of 6 to 10 in a matter of days, and had to be admitted for emergency dialysis that day. I don't know how long she might of survived, but she was in real dire straits. So a day can really matter, especially if it would have been her date of death.
Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: fc2821 on February 11, 2010, 11:14:33 AM
    I'm not leaving Dan, people here are too good not to associate with.
Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: dwcrawford on February 11, 2010, 11:29:47 AM
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Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: Stacy Without An E on February 11, 2010, 11:57:01 AM
Today matters a helluva lot less than it used to.
Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: fc2821 on February 11, 2010, 12:17:56 PM
   Every day matters because I'm in it for a reason.   

   Best wishes for: Karol, Jenna, and everyone at IHD. 
Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: paris on February 11, 2010, 12:30:22 PM
We all care about each other here or I don't think we would continue to post.  Some may convey their concern for another with helpful hints. Others with a joke.  We all react differently.    I keep a list (I have mentioned before) so I can readily see who I need to say a prayer for or a kind word.  Some days that is overwhelming and I don't say much at all.   I am grateful for "my"  today.   I guess we each have to find our reason, our purpose, our path --and those change everyday.   Kind of like finding your positive for the day.   As Del has said, some days you have to look very hard to find one tiny glimmer.   Maybe some day it is just a good meal!   That is as good as it gets.     

Hope everyone can find a good reason for today.    :grouphug;
Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: dwcrawford on February 11, 2010, 12:51:25 PM
Del, Rob, Phil, Twirl, looney and billy, you've all taken the time to write personal notes to me and I believe you know what I am feeling.  For several months now I've not expressed need for encouragment or insight into my problems.  I'm rather sorry now that I did.  You've shown your sensitivity by responding and not having a superior attitude but just an understanding.  I shall avoid this kind of post in the future but thank you.  Actually I am beginning to avoid more kinds of threads than I participate in.  lol  I did change my signature line.  However I doubt anyone read it except a couple of you.

Surely something will get settled tomorrow or Monday.  I will survive said the soul singer.
Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: okarol on February 11, 2010, 01:22:10 PM

I hope things get worked out for you Dan.  :cuddle;

 :bow; I am glad that you're all here.
I think I would have gone mad the last few weeks without you.
Jenna seems to feel fine now that we aren't injecting her or taking more of her blood. Her poor lily white arms are black and blue all over.
We wait for the biopsy results. Creatinine still hovering around 4.0, which is not encouraging.  :(
 :thx; Today I am grateful for IHD.
Title: Re: Does Today matter or not ?
Post by: tyefly on February 11, 2010, 06:08:53 PM
   The most important thing in life is listening...   from others, yourself  and most of all everything around you.....   Does today matter......   The Answer    is  always    Yes.....   because I can change tomorrow by listening today.......

   Dan   You are a very good listener......   And I do listen with you....  Lets change tomorrow......