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Dialysis Discussion => Dialysis: General Discussion => Topic started by: Goofy on October 08, 2009, 07:10:06 AM
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Someone at my place of employment is trying to tell me she has a "miracle" cure for PKD. Its some natural pill of some sort that is supposed to increase the DHEA levels in your blood which in turn will "cure" my kidney disease.
She is also trying to "sell" me some type of all natural drink made of all different kinds of berries to also help me. Obviously I don't believe her.....although she said it "cured" her cancer......hummmmm....sure it did.....
I've never heard of DHEA. I'm curious to know if anyone else had. She said I should get it checked in my next blood test. Does anyone know what DHEA is?
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Ask her to see her medical chart of when she had cancer.??
I think she is trying to sell you false hope. Which if true is just sad.
The berry drink she speaks of may be acari berry or something like that. It has been talked about here often if that indeed is what she is referring to.
With that said i WISH as do so many others it was that easy :-).
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Goofy's not yet on Dialysis so this may be a little less relevant BUT I would be also concerned about nebulous prodicts where you don't really know what all the ingredients are... what are the levels of Sodium, or Potassium, Calcium etc? Those things could adversely affect someone in renal failure.
Some miracle drug that cures cancer can also 'cure" PKD?? Yeah, sure.... and I'm the Lurve Guru!!!!!! yeah baby!! *swings hips* !!!
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What was that political saying a few years back? If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, guess what, it's a duck! I think it had something to do with taxes. Then there's always, "if it sounds too good to be true, it is." Run. Fast, very fast.
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Produced by the adrenal glands, DHEA (Dehydroepiandrosterone) is mildly androgenic. A precursor to other adrenal hormones, it diminishes with age and promotes longevity in animals. It is one of the best biochemical bio-markers of chronological age.
Or so it says onhttp://www.diagnose-me.com/cond/C11446.html
Can't see that it has anything to do with kidneys so to answer your question I'd say snake oil!
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You can believe than any product that actually works as they claim would be swept up by one of the drug giants and offered at a price that would scare the living hell out of you......
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Like Rose said, it's an adrenal hormone. It supposedly has great benefits to the body, and does decline with age. It is supposed to help with the side effects of Menopause, as it is a precurser to hormones. There is a good article on the web about it. I take it, because the menopause is KICKING MY BUTT, but I digresse... I don't know that it would have any benefits or detrement to the kidneys at all.
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I think that if a person discovers a real cure
for cancer and/or kidney failure,
the whole world would know
about it the next minute.
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Next time she mentions it , ask her why she isnt a millionaire and why we arent all cured !!!
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Mrs Stoday was talking on the phone to my Aunt Joyce a few months back. She mentioned I'd been to my GP to ask about a problem.
Now, without examining me (because Aunt Joyce lives on the other side of the UK) and without even speaking to me, Aunt Joyce had diagnosed my problem and was proposing what I should take for it.
My GP, even with years of training, couldn't do that! The whole thing was so preposterous that I couldn't stop laughing. Some people actually believe they know how to cure medical problems better than the professionals.
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You can believe than any product that actually works as they claim would be swept up by one of the drug giants and offered at a price that would scare the living hell out of you......
aint that the whole truth!!!
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I get send cancer cures all the time by well meaning people. I just thank them and say I'd read it with interest. If they push it, I say I have to check it with my specialist.
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You can buy DHEA at the drugstore for 3-4 bucks a bottle.
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Snake Oil, no doubt about it, and I dont care what it has in it, it is still snake oil.
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Always be careful of experimentation in a desperate situation.
Any ideas of that kind must be checked and double-checked,
because the consequences of negative reactions,
as the kidneys and the body generally are so frail,
could be devastating.
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I have to say......... it will work in conjunction with (wait for it) a sauna and a ozone bubble bath....
(for the newbies - I was making a sarcastic statement)
I ams so sorry, I just couldn't resist.
heheheheheh
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lol @ sauna..
so you mean you won't have a thereputic bubble bath and sauna with me Des???? :( :( :( :( :( :( :(
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I will as long as you promise not to promise me that it will cure me.
:bandance;
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:rofl; Des!
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A couple of years ago my good friend Louise died of cancer. Just a few months before someone had turned her on to an awful tasting tea made from some miracle roots. She went into remission and was so happy and died a few months later from cancer. What was more import? She had a few months of hope (though false) or she was giving a snake oil? I don't know, just asking.
Of course that's not an issue with most of us. We had proven resources : dialysis and transplant. So forget the untested methods. Well, unless you can talk your neph into writing a prescription for a SPA? MMMM, wonder if he'd do it???
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Don't believe them. Some people are just stupid or they just want to sell their products so much that they have to believe in them. Remember if it sounds to good to be true, it probably is. Maybe if you pray really hard, kidney disease will go away.
jmz
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I will as long as you promise not to promise me that it will cure me.
:bandance;
oh honey of course the bubble bath and sauna won't cure you, but I've got something that can take your mind off it all!!! Well for a few minutes anyway! :rofl; >:D >:D >:D
Seriously back onto the topic - a lot of people thrive on hope, because some say the psychology is just as important as the pysology. I know just for myself that I live on the hope of a better life that a transplant hopefully will bring(even if it is for a relatively short time) and that is a goal that keeps me going day to day. Like the story of the lady that went into temporary remission - she had faith and hope that the tea would help - and perhaps, in a way, it did - by helping her believe strongy it would help. I don't for a minute endorse those people that pray on the sick and elderly and others who *need* hope of a cure or fantastic treatment "Just take this pill and you'll be fine!" but I can understand the psychology of it. The thing is a lot of those who do not know a lot about their conditions and both what causes it and what is bad for you (like most of us would say NO WAY if handed a "potassium pill" and told it will fix us up. Well yeah it will "fix" us for sure - permanently! :( ). Some folks don't know or understand and they are the ones who are most at risk from this type of thing - and that's the saddest part really. Maybe ignorance is bliss to some, but i prefer to know as much as I can about my situation so I can make *informed* choices.
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Before i moved to Australia I lived in Cebu. There was this chinese herbal place that sold a product called Kidney wash. Although in a chinese herbal medicine place, it was a product from germany!! I started taking them, 5 pills, 3 times a day. I thought I'd give it a shot anyway. It actually incvreased my urine output and my creatnine levels also dropped!! I stopped taking them for some reason, I don't remember why!! but after a few months my kidneys failed. Who know's what my situation would be if I kept taking them. I know you guys will have alot to say about this...lol.
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Before i moved to Australia I lived in Cebu. There was this chinese herbal place that sold a product called Kidney wash. Although in a chinese herbal medicine place, it was a product from germany!! I started taking them, 5 pills, 3 times a day. I thought I'd give it a shot anyway. It actually incvreased my urine output and my creatnine levels also dropped!! I stopped taking them for some reason, I don't remember why!! but after a few months my kidneys failed. Who know's what my situation would be if I kept taking them. I know you guys will have alot to say about this...lol.
Sounds like a natural diuretic.
A guy here was taking a similar product, never did get the name from the guy. He since has had a tx. Anyway he said he got increased urine output, he took it as a sign it was healing him. Anyway the dietitian called the company, told them who she was and what was going on and they told here people going into renal failure should not use the product and that the product didnt preserve kidney function or stop renal failure.
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I wish I had a picture of it! The pills I'm talking about claimed to reverse the damage to your kidneys.
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When you are ill, as we all are, it is easy to attach yourself to anything that will" cure" you. Common sense tells you that it won't work. If it did, as Silverhead said the big companys would already have it, and so would we, if we could afford it.
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I have to say......... it will work in conjunction with (wait for it) a sauna and a ozone bubble bath....
(for the newbies - I was making a sarcastic statement)
I ams so sorry, I just couldn't resist.
heheheheheh
Footpads! YOu forgot the footpads that draw out all the toxins from the bottom of your feet!
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I am so hoping the footpads work ! Just imagine.......... mmmm
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What!? Those footpads don't work? I just ordered a case of them. I was sure I'd be cured by next week. (jk) Really, if there was a miracle cure, why would any of us be posting here?
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Wait a minute! I take the DHEA for menopause/hot flashes/insomnia and weight gain!!! The bottle said it would help... Is it NOT going to get better. I won't believe it. I won't. :banghead;
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I also say snake oil :twocents;
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Snake oil does cure some illnesses some of the time. I guess when it does, it's a miracle!
Seriously, the placebo effect is well documented, having been monitored as part of drug trials. The control group getting the placebo instead of the true drug still get a benefit over those getting nothing. Indeed, the placebo effect is so effective that drug trials have to avoid its distortion by "double-blinding" whereby neither the trail doctors nor the patients know if they are getting the real drug or the control.
Having said that, there's no cure for the Grim Reaper.
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I have heard of acai berry having healing properties and being very good for you, however, I doubt it will cure kidney disease or cancer. I doubt theres anything that will cure eaither of these diseases. If there were a prduct that could cure these diseases, trust that this world would have already put it on the market and exposed it all over television and newspapers so they could make money off of it. We live in a very money hungry world and if there was something this groundbreaking it would be advertised and higly priced.