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Title: Jail Time
Post by: Mizar on September 29, 2009, 04:38:30 PM
My Husband, always, stays up late, the Night before Dialysis, so He can Sleep, through it the next Morning, as He has a 6:30 A.M. Start time. He said, He was woke by the Tech, at Ten this Morning, and the first thing, He saw, was a Policeman, in Full Uniform, sitting across from Him. He turned to the Right and there was a Man, in a Jail House Orange, Uniform, sitting next to Him, getting Dialysis. The Policeman, was there, for Four Hours, just to watch the Prisoner.
I'm curious to know, if anyone else, had ever seen this. 
Title: Re: Jail Time
Post by: gotalife on September 29, 2009, 04:45:47 PM
I thought I was the only one who ever saw this!  I was dialyzing in a unit in Pittsburgh in 1978, I was 15 years old. There was a handcuffed patient who came in 3x a week with police officers.  At that time I was dialyzing in a private area that contained two dialysis machines...for privacy. He was always put on the other machine, and the officers would sit right near him.  So yes, I have seen this. 
Title: Re: Jail Time
Post by: willowtreewren on September 29, 2009, 04:51:40 PM
When we were dialyzing in-center before starting NxStage, we saw something similar, AND they had a police officer sit in the lobby, too.
Title: Re: Jail Time
Post by: dwcrawford on September 29, 2009, 04:58:59 PM
no never, but my nurse told me Monday I was going to jail if I didn't stop downloading all that illegal movies and music.   lol.   I asked told her great because I'd surely get better service than I do at davita....(but my luck they'd give me a police escort to davita.)
Title: Re: Jail Time
Post by: Goofy on September 29, 2009, 05:20:53 PM
dwcrawford, you're just too funny!
Title: Re: Jail Time
Post by: MIbarra on September 29, 2009, 06:05:54 PM
Dan, stop downloading porn at dialysis.   :P
Title: Re: Jail Time
Post by: RichardMEL on September 29, 2009, 08:05:19 PM
ha! half my nurses ask me to download stuff for them!!! "You got the latest Harry Potter yet? my kids want to watch it!"  :rofl;

I haven't seen it but a nurse told me last week about a patient in Alice Springs (middle of the country) who is so violent the hospital has to employ a security guy who picks him up at home, takes him to hospital, sits with him during treatment and takes him home. yikes!
Title: Re: Jail Time
Post by: Stacy Without An E on September 29, 2009, 09:00:30 PM
I've never had a criiminal dialyze next to me here in Santa Rosa.  But when I was undergoing Dialysis in he armpit that is Stockton, CA. prisoners came in non-stop.  Orange jump suit, shackles on legs and arms and a sour look on their face and a cop on their arm.

Ladies and gentlemen, your tax dollars at work.
Title: Re: Jail Time
Post by: effinxmandy on September 29, 2009, 09:09:15 PM
While I was a tech, I had a nurse tell me about an ex-prisoner they had, and he was a piece of work! This was many years ago, and he would always (try) to smoke on the machine, and it wasn't until they saw/smelled the smoke coming from under his blanket that they realized what was going on.

Before he was released, the prison he was at had it's own dialysis unit. He told the nurse a story one day about while he was sitting on the machine the prison guards would rape the dialysis techs.

I don't know if this is true or not, like I said, the guy was piece of work, but I guess anything can happen.

The nurse told me that he might have been a little difficult, but she didn't believe him to be a liar, just a guy who was little rough around the edges. 

Either way, I'd really like to believe this story was made up!  :o
Title: Re: Jail Time
Post by: kitkatz on September 29, 2009, 10:06:15 PM
I was in a unit when 2 sheriff's deputies walked in with a prisoner. At least one of them sat with him the entire time.
Title: Re: Jail Time
Post by: Rerun on September 29, 2009, 10:44:55 PM
I have realized another thing I hate about dialysis is we are reduced to the riff/raff.  We have to sit next to criminals to get our treatment.  I doesn't matter.  We have no status anymore.  Just another body drug in for treatment. 

Today a lady wanted water.  So I went to get it for her as I wasn't on yet and she asked for one ice cube.  We don't have an ice machine so I went in the back and got an ice cube out of the fridge.  The nurse said my name and when I looked at her she was shaking her head (no) and said you can't go back there.  Not, hey thanks cuz we are too busy to get this lady water.  But, no you piece of dirt don't go back there and touch our stuff.  You are not human so don't go where we go.  I use to be somebody who was trusted and admired, but not anymore.  Piece of dirt! 

                                       :waiting;
Title: Re: Jail Time
Post by: rose1999 on September 29, 2009, 11:16:39 PM
When Dad was last in hospital he had 2 criminals chained to prison warders spend the night in the same ward as him (and 3 other patients).  They went for their operations first thing next day and didn't come back to that word, We couldn't find out what they had done but to be chained to warders all night surely meant they hadn't just not paid their council tax! 

I have to say that he found it quite exciting and it gave him something to talk about (bless him) but I was somewhat upset that he spent one of the last nights of his life in such company AND that they got to jump the queue and get their ops first!
Title: Re: Jail Time
Post by: Hanify on September 30, 2009, 12:04:02 AM
I haven't seen it personally, but my nurses said they often have prisoners come in.  No dialysis units in the prisons, so they've gotta do it somewhere I guess.
Title: Re: Jail Time
Post by: keefbeer on September 30, 2009, 05:11:40 AM
Last year when on night shift dialysis we had a prisoner who came in infrequently. He would come in with two prison officers,  dressed in a giant green and yellow boiler-suit shackled by the wrists to a belt a bit like Hannibal Lecter.Their was also another prison officer outside sitting in the truck that had brought them all in, as the night went on one stayed on the unit and the other two sat in the truck "resting" they rotated every so often.
Within 25 miles of my unit there are 2 category A prisons (high security) and 4 major dialysis units so apparently this particular prisoner was shunted between them in the hope nobody noticed him.
The prisoner simply slept and was no trouble but the prison officers spent their time hitting on the nurses, eating and drinking our food and would not use the headphones on the TV. 
Title: Re: Jail Time
Post by: Sunny on September 30, 2009, 02:33:08 PM
I took my 18 year old daughter to have her wisdom teeth pulled last month. They gave her anti-anxiety meds prior which left her "loopy". As I walked with her to the surgery room, there was a shackled prisoner in a bright orange jump suit with an armed sheriff guarding the door in another room. My daughter walked by staring and when we passed she said," Mom, am I seeing things? Was that a prisoner with an armed guard?" I wasn't very happy about the whole idea. Seems like these people might be a danger to others. Do you feel safe when you are next to them in your dialysis center? Shouldn't they be dialyized in an isolated area or when others aren't around?
Title: Re: Jail Time
Post by: Hanify on September 30, 2009, 02:39:49 PM
It wouldn't be possible here to dialyse them separately, and in Wellington anyway, there is no separate area to be in.  I presume with the bigger centres in the US there must be more options.  My husband has a lot to do with prisoners so I don't really have that reaction to seeing a prisoner.  Mind you, over here it's quite unusual to see prisoners in handcuffs in the first place.  I used to visit a friend's son in prison (a low security one) and we'd all sit in a big dining room and no one was shackled.  I think that's the same in high sec here too.
Title: Re: Jail Time
Post by: Ang on September 30, 2009, 04:11:14 PM
no such  luck,i'd probably spend 4  hours  staring :rofl;
Title: Re: Jail Time
Post by: Loretta on September 30, 2009, 04:19:06 PM
Our dialysis unit actually also deals with a small unit in a prison.  Some of my techs and nurses actually go to the prison to give prisoners dialysis.
Title: Re: Jail Time
Post by: dwcrawford on October 01, 2009, 06:24:02 AM
some of the techs should go to jail for assault with a deadly weapon...  damn, the size of those needles!
Title: Re: Jail Time
Post by: pamster42000 on October 01, 2009, 06:40:05 AM
When my daughter went to dialysis we never had this experience. I'm assuming if there was ever a person from the jail who needed dialysis they took them to the hospital. At least they have security guards there if a problem would arise.This situation would make me very uncomfortable if my daughter was still having dialysis.
What if their friends thought this would be a good time to break their friend out from custody.....I think the unit is putting the other patients at risk and should find an  alternative plan.
Title: Re: Jail Time
Post by: silverhead on October 01, 2009, 08:17:51 AM
Well if they are going to a clinic for Dialysis, it usually indicates hemo, what is the prisoner going to do now for D?, break into closed centers to do it himself?
Even if he and his friends stole a machine to do it themselves they would need supplies that are not available to the public at the local stores..........
Title: Re: Jail Time
Post by: nursewratchet on October 01, 2009, 08:48:55 AM
ALL the time!  The gaurd is required to stay at all times with the prisoner.  We only would dialyze a prisoner who is already our patient.  Not a prisoner who needs to come here for treatment.  They are usually child support or parole violations, etc...
Title: Re: Jail Time
Post by: RightSide on October 01, 2009, 05:33:38 PM
Dan, stop downloading porn at dialysis.   :P
He's only testing if his sexual responses have been impaired by ESRD.
Title: Re: Jail Time
Post by: pamster42000 on October 01, 2009, 05:42:04 PM
I never said the friends were smart   :).....guess I was just using that as an example.

Maybe the patient themself could grab scissors etc. and threaten someone.
Title: Re: Jail Time
Post by: Stoday on October 01, 2009, 05:44:25 PM
He's only testing if his sexual responses have been impaired by ESRD.

He'd better watch it if Nursewratchet's around. She knows what goes on under a blanket.  :rofl;
Title: Re: Jail Time
Post by: dwcrawford on October 01, 2009, 05:50:56 PM
Who is getting under my blanket? :2thumbsup;