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« Reply #400 on: July 19, 2008, 10:51:31 PM »

That's cos we're all so damn nosey  :rofl;
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« Reply #401 on: July 23, 2008, 03:42:20 PM »

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« Reply #402 on: July 23, 2008, 03:57:26 PM »

My husband and his musical friends (a bunch of harp guitarists) once thought of making a harp guitarist calendar - you know, nude guys hiding behind harp guitars.  I told them to forget it.  Now how would those guys in the photo look holding guitars?  :guitar:
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« Reply #403 on: July 23, 2008, 06:10:26 PM »

Shirtless Mormons calendar gets man in trouble

Man behind calendar summoned before church elders
 
SALT LAKE CITY, Utah (AP) -- A Las Vegas man who devised a calendar that features shirtless Mormon missionaries is facing a disciplinary hearing and possible excommunication because of the project.
The "Men on a Mission" calendar featuring shirtless Mormon missionaries.

A lifetime member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Chad Hardy was summoned by letter to a Sunday meeting with a council of elders to discuss his "conduct unbecoming a member of the church."

A copy of the letter from Frank E. Davie, the senior leader over a group of Mormon congregations in the Las Vegas area, was provided to The Associated Press. It was sent early this week, days before the 2009 version of the "Men on a Mission" calendar went to press, Hardy said in a telephone interview.

A takeoff on calendars of firefighters and returned U.S. servicemen, Hardy's project debuted with a 2008 calendar featuring 12 returned church missionaries in mostly modest poses, minus their trademark white shirts, ties and black plastic name badges. It has sold nearly 10,000 copies.

"You see more in a JCPenney catalog," said Hardy, 31, who once worked for Utah Jazz owner Larry Miller and now has his own entertainment company. "I just feel like my right to free speech is being violated."

The calendar was designed to shake up Mormon stereotypes, Hardy said. The pages include photos of the men dressed in standard missionary garb. In biographical sketches each missionary talks about his beliefs.

"It's not tearing anybody down," Hardy said. "I wondered what would happen if we took that perfect Disneyland image that the church spends millions of dollars cultivating each year and shook it up a little bit."

Davie on Friday confirmed sending the letter and the plans for the meeting. He said the calendar was the primary concern.

"I prefer not to say anything else about it," he said. "There is more involved, and he and I will have our meeting."

The outcome of a council meeting could include excommunication, probation "or exoneration," Davie said.

A returned missionary himself, Hardy acknowledged he has not been an active member of the church since 2002. He said he's never been contacted by anyone from the church encouraging his return to the fold and he suspects the current inquiry was driven by the church's Salt Lake City headquarters.

"I'm still a good Mormon boy in many ways," said Hardy, who says he bears no animosity toward Latter-day Saints, but never felt he fit in. "I still want to hold onto my heritage."

Blog entries on the social networking sites MySpace and Facebook show a range of reactions to Hardy's work. Some find it offensive and say it degrades the church by displaying missionaries as sex symbols, and that it contradicts church teachings about modest dress for all members.

Others praise the effort for rattling perceptions that Mormons are "stuffy." Some who identified themselves as younger Mormons said the calendar might make it easier for their non-Mormon friends to consider exploring the faith.

"It has created an interfaith dialogue," Hardy said. "People of all faiths have logged on and shared what they believe. They're talking about what's really important, not how bad it is that you took your shirt off."

Some of the missionaries in the calendar, many of whom were recruited by Hardy's friends at church events, have been asked by their church leaders about the project, but none has faced disciplinary action, Hardy said.

"The biggest concern was, whether this was an attack on the church, and when they determined it wasn't, it was no big deal," said model Jonathan Martin, a 25-year-old Utah Valley University student who was contacted by a church elder in May. "When you don something outside of the norm, it doesn't matter what group of people you're in, it's going to unsettle them."

Martin said he was told the inquiry was being made after a letter was sent to his church leader by higher-ups in Salt Lake City.

The Mormon church takes disciplinary action when leaders believe a person's behavior or actions are openly incompatible with the faith's teachings and could damage the church.

Church spokeswoman Kim Farah declined to comment on Hardy's specific situation, but said that "any church discipline is the result of actions not beliefs." Decisions are made at the local level and are based on individual circumstances and merits, she said.

"Because the fundamental purpose of church discipline has always been to help members, rather than simply punish, disciplinary councils are considered a necessary step in repentance on the way back to full harmony and fellowship in the church," she said.

Members have been excommunicated for reasons including criminal activity and scholarly works of history or theology that contradicted church claims.

An excommunicated person would be removed from official church rolls, although he or she would still be welcome at church services. Excommunicated members are prohibited from receiving the sacrament and can't perform church callings such as teaching or preaching during meetings. They also cannot enter church temples.

The 2009 calendar -- which drew 100 inquiries from interested missionaries -- will be released in September.

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« Reply #404 on: July 24, 2008, 12:45:41 AM »

let's do an IHD calendar :rofl;
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« Reply #405 on: July 24, 2008, 05:43:05 AM »

Sure, good idea Twirl.  Instead of Map of the Stars, we can display our personal Maps of the Scars. :rofl;
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« Reply #406 on: July 24, 2008, 05:57:18 AM »

yes, lets do...naked arm calendar.   :rofl;
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« Reply #407 on: July 24, 2008, 06:47:17 AM »

and think of the different ways we could position our legs as we lounge on the dialysis chairs
and give the camera a seductive look as needles are inserted
and the way we could eat the ice----------like in those stupid movies where they trade food or eat grapes
 :shy;  ( Sluff is going to ban me if I come up with anymore ideas) :bunny:
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« Reply #408 on: July 24, 2008, 07:28:27 AM »

 :rofl; :rofl; :rofl;
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« Reply #409 on: July 24, 2008, 08:06:05 AM »

oh yes twirl....we could dangle one leg off the back of the chair while we look over our shoulder at the machine....ok I'll stop... :shy;
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ESRD diagnosed 12/2006
03/2007 Fantastic Eye Surgeon in ND got my sight back and implanted lenses in both eyes, great distance & low reading.
Gortex 4/07.  Started dialysis in ND 5/4/2007
Gortex clotted off Thanksgiving Week of 2007, was unclotted and promptly clotted off 1/2 hour later so Permacath Rt chest.
3/2008 move to NC to be close to children.
2 Step fistula, 05/08-elevated 06/08, using mid August.
Aug 5, 08, trained NxStage and Home on 9/3/2008.
Fistulagram 09/2008. In hospital 10/30/08, Bowel Obstruction.
Back to RAI-Latrobe In Center. No home hemo at this time.
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« Reply #410 on: July 24, 2008, 08:18:04 AM »

What about a PD exit site calender. Here's a list of different pictures you could have for each month.

January - Half way through catheter surgery.

Februrary- One hour later after being stitched back up.

March - A fully healed one

April - An infected one  :puke;

May- One covered  in betadine (nice)

June- A leaky one

For the other months pics of a clean healthy one taken from different angles of course and one with some tinsel and a sprig of holly round it for December. :rofl;



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« Reply #411 on: July 24, 2008, 10:03:49 AM »

oh yes twirl....we could dangle one leg off the back of the chair while we look over our shoulder at the machine....ok I'll stop... :shy;

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that would be hot
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« Reply #412 on: July 24, 2008, 05:03:06 PM »

I'll buy a gross.
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« Reply #413 on: July 24, 2008, 07:01:11 PM »

it would be gross
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« Reply #414 on: July 24, 2008, 07:51:48 PM »

Of course a PD catheter exit site calendar would beget an AV fistula calendar.  The possibilities are endless.  New fistula, mature fistula, infiltrated fistula, aneurysms of the fistula, buttonholes in fistula, clotted fistula, forearm fistula, upper arm fistula, and so on and so on.
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Pyelonephritis (began at 8 mos old)
Home haemo 1980-1985 (self-cannulated with 15 gauge sharps)
Cadaveric transplant 1985
New upper-arm fistula April 2008
Uldall-Cook catheter inserted May 2008
Haemo-dialysis, self care unit June 2008
(2 1/2 hours X 5 weekly)
Self-cannulated, 15 gauge blunts, buttonholes.
Living donor transplant (sister-in law Kathy) Feb. 2009
First failed kidney transplant removed Apr.  2009
Second trx doing great so far...all lab values in normal ranges
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« Reply #415 on: July 24, 2008, 08:05:39 PM »

 :rofl; :rofl; :rofl;
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« Reply #416 on: July 24, 2008, 10:42:50 PM »

Of course a PD catheter exit site calendar would beget an AV fistula calendar.  The possibilities are endless.  New fistula, mature fistula, infiltrated fistula, aneurysms of the fistula, buttonholes in fistula, clotted fistula, forearm fistula, upper arm fistula, and so on and so on.

i've got a beautiful bruse you can use. it's about 2 months old, it started out black and is now sort of brown.  :sarcasm;
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« Reply #417 on: July 25, 2008, 08:48:55 AM »

You know how some people have pictures of the new kidney they are getting in transplant? Should have a calendar showing those kidneys!
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« Reply #418 on: July 25, 2008, 09:35:47 AM »

I just knew I shouldn't have looked at this thread!!
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« Reply #419 on: July 29, 2008, 05:20:12 PM »


Can you name that tune by looking at the picture?


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« Reply #420 on: July 30, 2008, 02:15:33 AM »

the title is Moon River
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« Reply #421 on: August 02, 2008, 03:35:05 PM »

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« Reply #422 on: August 02, 2008, 05:40:15 PM »



My name is okarol and I am a lookaholic.
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New kidney in a paired donation swap July 26, 2017.
Her story ---> https://www.facebook.com/WantedKidneyDonor
Please watch her video: http://youtu.be/D9ZuVJ_s80Y
Living Donors Rock! http://www.livingdonorsonline.org -
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« Reply #423 on: August 02, 2008, 06:15:59 PM »

My dearest mother used to always say..........."Curiosity killed the Cat!"  I should have been dead around five years old!
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« Reply #424 on: August 03, 2008, 06:23:52 AM »

I am happy to say that i continue to refrain from looking.
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