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« Reply #50 on: September 16, 2007, 02:27:27 PM »

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/16/business/16dial.html?ex=1190606400&en=635385abacef579c&ei=5070&emc=eta1

The Dialysis Business: Fair Treatment?
By ANDREW POLLACK
Published: September 16, 2007
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« Reply #51 on: September 16, 2007, 06:10:54 PM »

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/16/business/16dial.html?ex=1190606400&en=635385abacef579c&ei=5070&emc=eta1

The Dialysis Business: Fair Treatment?
By ANDREW POLLACK
Published: September 16, 2007

It's posted here too: http://ihatedialysis.com/forum/index.php?topic=5013.0
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« Reply #52 on: September 16, 2007, 06:48:55 PM »

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/16/business/16dial.html?ex=1190606400&en=635385abacef579c&ei=5070&emc=eta1

The Dialysis Business: Fair Treatment?
By ANDREW POLLACK
Published: September 16, 2007

It's posted here too: http://ihatedialysis.com/forum/index.php?topic=5013.0
Thanks for posting the whole article. I didn't think the article was very revealing.

"Medicare and Congress are moving to stop separate Medicare reimbursement for Epogen to end the incentives to overuse the drug. Law enforcement authorities, including those at the Justice Department and at the Health and Human Services Office of Inspector General, are conducting criminal and civil investigations into how DaVita and some other dialysis providers bill for Epogen.

All of this casts an unfavorable spotlight on the dialysis business, which might be the closest thing the United States has to nationalized health care. Medicare pays for almost all dialysis, even for patients younger than 65."

So the possibility that the federal government reimburses for some amount of medication above what a conservative dosing scheme would utilize is what "casts an unfavorable spotlight on the dialysis business"? WTF

Isn't the mortality rate a bigger problem then the feds maybe spending too many shekels on Epo?: "Dialysis is a dreary experience, one in which people with failed kidneys sit for hours hooked to machines that cleanse their blood, assisted by technicians who often have to work a second job to make ends meet. More than one in five of the nation’s dialysis patients die each year — a rate as much as double that in Europe and Japan — for reasons that aren’t clear." That sounds like a bigger problem then when exactly to tapper epo dosing.

And doesn't the DOPPS results show that mortality is tied to dose of dialysis? That American dialyzors get less dialysis per kilogram of body weight. "For reasons that aren't clear"? Sounds to me like the reporter was tired of reading about dialysis reimbursement. The statement that "Medicare pays for almost all dialysis, even for patients younger than 65." tells me that the reporter was only interested in epo reimbursement not industry profits - he ignored the 10-15% of dialyzors that are private pay who dirve industry profits. Pollack writes that "Epogen accounts for 25 percent of DaVita’s revenue and up to 40 percent of its earnings" must mean that he is including private pay revenue in his figures but he never mentions the private pay issue. I think the usurious rates charged private payors is the cancer that will destroy the provision of dialysis in this country.

Frustrating.

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« Reply #53 on: September 16, 2007, 06:56:52 PM »

... I didn't think the article was very revealing. ... Frustrating.


I agree with you, Bill.  The reporter may have intended to do a great expose, but somewhere along the way was diverted and the expose never happened.  I wonder why?
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« Reply #54 on: September 17, 2007, 06:58:26 AM »

In my opinion there was nothing that is of any news in this article.  All the facts stated have been known for some time, it just happened to focused on Kent Thirty and DaVita
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« Reply #55 on: September 17, 2007, 02:33:06 PM »

I tend to agree. Nothing new was brought out as I was led to believe. Everyone knows the BS that KT brings to DaVita. Hmmm 33.4 million in two years and 90 million in stock. Yea, I would pretend to be a cartoon man too.  I was just informed the other day by someone on this site that there may be some unions forming. I have never ever NEVER been a union person, but maybe that is what it will take to put the money back into the clinics instead of wasting it... who knows.  We are still gathering data for investigation so we will see where that leads.  OH well, I had my hopes up that Andy had more information but fell flat :(
Nothing new... how sad, and I was so excited!
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« Reply #56 on: September 17, 2007, 02:38:02 PM »

I am sure your day will come Bioya,  :thumbup; (and fortunately that will be the day when Ken's day will too)  :thumbdown;  I am a firm believer in Karma and when it bites, it bites HARD  ;D (at least to those who deserve it)  :2thumbsup;
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« Reply #57 on: May 22, 2011, 06:23:20 AM »

... I didn't think the article was very revealing. ... Frustrating.


I agree with you, Bill.  The reporter may have intended to do a great expose, but somewhere along the way was diverted and the expose never happened.  I wonder why?

Is this actually the last article critical of DaVita to appear in a major news outlet?  It has its disappointments, but it is a highwater mark for skepticism about Thiry's PR machine--to my knowledge that is.  Have there been better articles since?




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