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« on: October 24, 2018, 11:16:19 PM »

sorry if this has been discussed before, but does it make a difference to dialyse before or after your flujab (HD)


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1983 high proteinloss in urine, chemo, stroke,coma, dialysis
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« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2018, 08:15:16 AM »

Just had mine at monthly doc meeting. Had one last year at clinic.  No detectable difference for me on HD.
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« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2018, 10:01:50 AM »

I get them to wait until after because I don't want to sit and have the BP cuff squeezing it for 4 hours after the shot.
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« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2018, 10:10:42 AM »

My center would provide them on they way out the door after treatment.
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« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2018, 10:20:59 AM »

The transplant team has advised me to wait until 3 months post-install to get stuck.
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« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2018, 10:57:42 AM »

When I was on dialysis, they set up the "flu shot" station as soon as you got into the clinic. Patients got poked prior to treatment.

As a transplant patient, the Infectious Disease team advised me to be the "first one in the city" to get the flu shot because, I'm my own kind of special...  ::) ::) ::)
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« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2018, 11:07:48 AM »

Has anyone heard of the extra strength flu shots, those for at risk and over 65, being the cause of more reported cases of side effects, specifically Guillane-Barre?
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« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2018, 11:19:56 AM »

Has anyone heard of the extra strength flu shots, those for at risk and over 65, being the cause of more reported cases of side effects, specifically Guillane-Barre?
I'm not sure what it is called in the U.S. but in Canada, the high dose vaccine is known as Fluzone. While the reaction of Guillain-Barre Syndrome is rare (so says the paperwork), it does happen. That's probably why they advise those with any sort of neurological disorder to skip the high dose vaccine. Apparently, if there is a reaction, it shows up in 6 weeks (weakness, tingling in arms, etc) and it will go away. I'm sure a dialysis patient would be in consultation with their doctor.

As well, I warned about GBS when I received by HPV vaccine prior to tx. That went fine as well, but, everyone is different.
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« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2018, 09:31:46 AM »

I always get mine after treatment.  I think they do that fore a few reasons, bleeding being one of them.  I think it was originally done that way because at the end, the heparin would have been stopped for an hour and any bleeding would be minimized.  Now that we don't get heparin anymore, but this fragment stuff, I don't know if that's an issue.  Also, since you have to sit for 15 minutes after you get it, I'm already sitting, holding my sites, so it's killing two birds with one stone. *G*
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« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2018, 05:01:59 PM »

A nurse comes by at my dialysis station, asks me if I want the shot, swabs alcohol on my not fistula arm north of the BP cuff, jabs me with the extra strong flu shot, slaps a bandaid on it gets me to sign paper work and is on to the next victim.  I go back to sleep.
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« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2018, 09:55:28 AM »

I was curious about the extra strength flu shot because the Drs are debating whether my FIL had a GBS reaction to it or something else, perhaps a small stroke. The nurses that come to his house, and gave him the shot, said there have been increased amounts of GBS with the higher strength shots.
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