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« Reply #100 on: February 21, 2019, 06:16:11 AM »

This looks as if there is a serious misunderstanding taking place......

I wasn't taking a pop at you or your post, my comments were about John Humphrey's reaction.

And Paul, I could not comment on your other statements because, to be honest, I don't quite understand where you are coming from and what you mean

Basically I was saying that it a woman's choice as to how she uses her body (for good or bad) and no other asshole has a right to dictate this to her (either to a particular woman, or women as a group).

I also could not comment what you mention about shooting etc. because I always have been and still am a pacifist

A pacifist is someone who will not fight. You appear to be saying that your pacifism means that if you see a woman being badly treated, you will just stand back and watch. That is NOT pacifism.


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« Reply #101 on: February 21, 2019, 07:41:42 AM »

What do you all think of the formation of The Independent Group?
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« Reply #102 on: February 21, 2019, 02:52:29 PM »

What do you all think of the formation of The Independent Group?

Hello MooseMom,
If you ask me, I feel like watching a school-play going wrong because the head-teacher is missing ...  ???
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« Reply #103 on: February 21, 2019, 03:11:20 PM »


What do you all think of the formation of The Independent Group?

Time will tell.

In Britain we have several political parties, but only two that matter. The others never get in power - ever. However at the moment both parties are a disappointment to most voters, even that party's core voters. One is currently seriously mismanaging a claim that they are all racists, and managing to look like they are confirming the accusation, while simultaneously alienating a large number of their core voters by radically moving further to the left than many of them like. The other party is comprehensively bogging up Brexit in a way that seriously angering both the pro and anti Brexit voters. Plus recentish news (Windrush) make them look even more racist than the other lot because they were cooking the books to send back immigrants who were invited over here with a promise of citizenship at a time when we really needed them. And on top of that their party leader is probably the worst prime minister we have ever had. Oh, and the party is self destructing over an internal argument over Brexit.

So it is possible that, for the first time in history, a third party will win the next election, simply because no one want either of the two main parties back in power again (at least until they have sorted themselves out). So, if they can get enough candidates to stand at the next election "The Independent Group" could win it.

However, they are not currently a "political party", just a group of independent politicians without any party allegiances. They would have to form into an actual party if they wanted a chance to become the government.

Personally (and this is an IMHO) I think that the most likely outcome of the next election will be one of the other existing parties getting into power. Either the third or fourth largest at the moment. Either the Liberal-Democrats or UKIP. I'm hoping for the former and fearing the latter.

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« Reply #104 on: February 21, 2019, 03:17:47 PM »


I feel like watching a school-play going wrong because the head-teacher is missing ...  ???

Two school plays simultaneously going wrong in a myriad of ways. And the head teachers are not missing, just idiots. The plays would go so much better if they were missing.

It at times like this that I can understand your habit of never watching the news. This mess is boring, annoying, making Britain look stupid, and helping ruin the country. Even I don't want to watch this happening.

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« Reply #105 on: February 22, 2019, 02:20:08 AM »


I feel like watching a school-play going wrong because the head-teacher is missing ...  ???

Two school plays simultaneously going wrong in a myriad of ways. And the head teachers are not missing, just idiots. The plays would go so much better if they were missing.

It at times like this that I can understand your habit of never watching the news. This mess is boring, annoying, making Britain look stupid, and helping ruin the country. Even I don't want to watch this happening.

Hello Paul,
Many thanks for your comprehensive explanations.
... To be honest, I would not want to say out loud that the headteachers are idiots, because, even though it appears to be the truth, I am still hoping that "things" are getting better and it sounds so harsh and is a horrendous thought to realize that our future may be decided by idiots ...
Sometimes, when at the doctors, hospital etc., whilst waiting, I happen to watch a little TV and when I happen to listen to the House of Commons, the thought comes to me that "once upon a time" there was a Shakespeare living here and many other great thinkers and many wonderful composers etc. and now we have to listen to this "watered down thought" ... which hardly anyone can understand or follow and which perhaps may not even be a thought at all ...
Mind you, I don't go out of my way to get familiar with the latest news (no TV etc.), but I still make a point to be not completely ignorant about what is going on.
And you hit the nail on the head when you say that this mess is boring and annoying ... 
But, what really hurts most of all is the fact that many of our politicians seem to make a point to make Britain look stupid, they don't appear to bother or help the country but only seem to help themselves on all financial levels and they also seem to be too insensitive to even notice the despair of the population. That really hurts !
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« Reply #106 on: February 22, 2019, 08:17:26 AM »

Thanks for your thoughts on the matter as it currently stands.

I realize that TIG is no a separate political party.

I also realize that the Conservatives have had a mess on their hands with the Windrush catastrophe in which May was complicit.

If any of you have any further comments or concerns as the Brexit clock winds down, please post as I am most interested!  Thank you!
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« Reply #107 on: February 22, 2019, 12:11:35 PM »

I am still hoping that "things" are getting better

Sadly they are not getting better, they are getting worse. Mrs May is driving towards an exit that even she admits will ruin the country. Even worse, it is liable to anger many Irish ex-terrorists and there is a blindingly good chance it will start the Irish bombing again.
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« Reply #108 on: March 07, 2019, 04:17:02 AM »

Just heard the best name ever for the current Brexit situation.

This Brexit thing has been going on for nearly three years (or over three years if you include the run up to the referendum). The arguments are still going on over what type of Brexit we are going to have, each one either named after where they were created (Chequers Brexit) or the country who already has that deal (Norwegian Brexit, Swedish Brexit, etc.) or a vague sense of despair (No Deal Brexit). And now they are talking about extending the Brexit negotiations for up to another year!

Considering that, a radio presenter came up with the perfect name for it: He called it "Hotel California Brexit" because "You can check out any time you like but you can never leave!"

Oh God, that is exactly how it feels.

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« Reply #109 on: March 07, 2019, 06:42:07 AM »

Considering that, a radio presenter came up with the perfect name for it: He called it "Hotel California Brexit" because "You can check out any time you like but you can never leave!"
Good analogy.
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« Reply #110 on: March 07, 2019, 10:09:28 AM »

I still don't see any real progress regarding Brexit.  Northern Ireland is STILL a big sticking point. ::)
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