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Whamo
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« on: November 04, 2017, 12:42:55 PM »

My nurse did a home inspection yesterday.   She told me I'd be getting a new Baxter machine that talks.  Has anyone been using one like this yet?  Are they cool? 
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« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2017, 01:59:57 PM »

I haven't heard anything about that, but my first thought was, "What if I want my machine to shut up?"
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« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2017, 04:31:39 PM »

I have heard of it.  It's called the Amia or Amla.  I don't want a cycler that talks to me.  I'm holding out for one that doesn't require bags of fluid.  I hear that's in the pipeline.
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« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2017, 08:23:53 PM »

And I thought the beeping hemp (should be hemo) machines were annoying, dear god they are going to have them nagging us next.  Take your binders,  watch your fluid, .....     holy crap it would be worse than being married.
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« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2017, 01:03:03 PM »

And I thought the beeping hemp machines were annoying, dear god they are going to have them nagging us next.  Take your binders,  watch your fluid, .....     holy crap it would be worse than being married.p

or worse - like being married to a RN - lol  ;D  ;D  ;D

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« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2017, 05:39:59 PM »

And I thought the beeping hemp machines were annoying
Can you provide details on these hemp machines?  My state recently legalized the heathen devil weed.
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« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2017, 08:29:16 PM »

New Apple auto correction changed hemo  into hemp. So embarrassing.
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« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2017, 07:00:52 AM »

I think more patients would consider dialysis if they could get hemp dialysis!
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« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2017, 07:26:38 AM »

I had the munchies so bad after hemo last night that it might as well have been hemp dialysis.
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« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2017, 06:26:34 PM »

 :secret; :secret; :secret; :secret;  You have no idea!  My Alexa already talks to the television, and now my dialysis machine and her are going to chat.  My nurse says the lady on the machine gives you proper procedures.  In other words, nag, nag, nag.    :Kit n Stik;
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« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2017, 11:44:11 AM »

She told me I'd be getting a new Baxter machine that talks.
Made me think of Talkie Toaster.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRq_SAuQDec
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« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2017, 08:13:47 AM »

 :birthday;  Put another candle on my birthday cake.  I fed a giraffe the other day at the Living Desert in Palm Desert.  Oh, I got to see the new machine in action.  A Baxter "educator" demonstrated the machine to another patient, her husband, and myself.  It's smaller, lighter, and has a screen.  The cassette goes on the side instead of the front.  It's similar but different.  I'm ordering the new kind of cassette today.  It comes with a 22-foot cord so you will have room to move.  The bag goes inside a cover.  There are no more flow sheets.   The machine records everything and sends it real time to your doctor.  So, instead of reviewing your records once a month, he or she can look it up anytime.  They've already updated the software, and they plan on improving it more in the future.
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« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2017, 02:28:56 PM »

Sounds interesting. And happy birthday of course


   :birthday;    :birthday;   :bestwishes; :beer1; :cheer:


Lots of love, luck and strength, Cas
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« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2017, 10:49:26 AM »

 :twocents;  I trained on the new machine yesterday.  I have another session on Sunday and then it's showtime.  Baxter is late delivering the new cassettes.  The cassettes connect on the side instead of the front.  The machine opens up so you can load a bag.  The lines are easy to tangle up.  The talking and processing takes up a lot of time.  I'm afraid my dialysis will go from ten and half hours to twelve.  We'll see.  It seems to take forever to prime.  It just got cold here in San Bernardino.  It was 80 yesterday.  Winter starts on Thursday.  It's like fall never came except for the shorter days.  Trump said merry christmas he has a present for us -- a trillion dollars more of debt to fund tax savings for the top .1%  They get 80% of the benefits.  Do the math.
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« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2017, 01:35:17 AM »

I trained on the new machine yesterday, again.  It takes too long to setup.  The worst part is that the lines get tangled up if you're not careful.  My dialysis lasts 10 1/2 hours now.   With this new machine it's easily going to take 11 or even 12.  I don't like it at all.
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« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2017, 09:52:42 AM »

My nurse included a flow sheet.  Why should I bother with that if they take my blood pressure, twice, and weight, during the dialysis?  Why fill it out when it's already on computer?
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« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2017, 10:38:41 AM »

My nurse included a flow sheet.  Why should I bother with that if they take my blood pressure, twice, and weight, during the dialysis?  Why fill it out when it's already on computer?

Maybe incase its not transmitting correctly?  Do you have a modern phone with a camera? Can you take a photo of the screen and save that just incase?  Also good if you need to pull it up at an office visit.
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« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2018, 07:29:06 AM »

Sorry, dude, I am an oldie.  I use phones to talk and that's about it.  I prefer the old phones.  They don't cause brain tumors.
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« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2018, 02:32:23 PM »

 :puke; :puke; :puke; :puke;  I've had four cassette breakdowns this last week.  It's a lot of work to throw away three fluid bags, the cassette, and drain bag(s).  I want my old machine back!
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« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2018, 09:08:50 AM »

I asked my clinic if the is a way to bypass the voice commands.  We do not have the machines yet but they want to get them for those that do not live near the clinic. I live 350 mile away.  If we are having to waste bags that will not be good.  May last order was short 12 boxes of fluid and the clinic said that the problem was going to continue for a while.  Good luck and I hope it works out.
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« Reply #20 on: January 24, 2018, 12:45:26 PM »

Wow, I went to vascular radiology or whatever for a leg ultra-sound.  They said my right leg's BP was 213, and that I should report to the ER.   Fat chance of that.  My BP was 177 when I got home, high, as it was 155 this morning.  I guess having two young girls massage and/or zap my legs got the blood to boil.  Who knows?  My modem is an old-fashioned one.  I've tried two of them, same result.  My nurse wants me to call Baxter, but I alread did.   All they did was send me another modem, identical to my other two.  I do a daily drain, and then dwell for 3 or 4 hours before I start my 9 1/2 hour nighttime drains and fulls.  Our ER is a mad house, literally.  I go to the Urgent Care or call my regular doctor for an appointment instead.  I flashed hard the other day and got a few writing ideas.  My time-share salesman at Disneyland gets fired from his night-time janitor job for saving someone with a heart attack.  He decides to start greeting people at the gate, and giving a lot of hugs.  He goes viral, and people all over the world come to hug the salesman. 
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« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2018, 11:08:11 AM »

I'm used to the new machine now.  I like it.  It's easier to use in the long run.  I've been doing the 1 mile walking express on youtube (free).  I like the routine, and I feel better.   :beer1;
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« Reply #22 on: February 11, 2018, 11:13:25 AM »

Good to hear Whamo  :thumbup;
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1983 high proteinloss in urine, chemo, stroke,coma, dialysis
1984 double nephrectomy
1985 transplant from dad
1998 lost dads kidney, start PD
2003 peritineum burst, back to hemo
2012 start Nxstage home hemo
       still on waitinglist, still ok I think
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« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2018, 02:03:49 PM »

 :Kit n Stik;  It's good news, bad news, today.  My vascular surgeon didn't cut me open, thank the Lord.  I found out that my right leg is at 80% circulation and the left leg is 70%.  She put me on baby asprin, and told me to walk to the point of pain to build new arteries.  My big toe boil has healed up, so, take the good with the bad. 
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« Reply #24 on: March 28, 2018, 07:06:41 PM »

Wish I could say good things but after 4 nights we went back to the Home Choice Pro.  My wife is a slow drain and the machine is not equipped to handle this situation properly.  Unlike the HomeChoice there is no manual drain feature.   If you drain slowly (less than 50 ml a minute), the unit puts a slow drain warning on the screen.  If you continue to stay slow you get an occasional beep with a highlighted screen, if you continue longer it stops, goes into continual beeping and you have to make a choice to retry or end that cycle and go to the next step in your program. 

Also during that warning phase, the unit goes into a process that puts a little of your dialysis fluid in you and turns around and drains.  This can cause an early depletion of your fluid depending how long this is going on and what cycle you are in.  Now the HomeChoice also does this but you can hit the stop button on the HomeChoice and go to a manual drain mode.  This will not go through the routine of adding fluid into you and in my estimation provides a better drain process. 

Because of these drain issues a full drain during one of our tidal cycles took almost 60 minutes as I sat there continuing to instruct the unit to drain.  We finished her treatment last night 90 minutes past the projected treatment cycle.  I also found that the machine has no way of showing you your current UF when in a specific cycle.  It can only show past cycles.  For most this isn't a big issue but with a slow drain person on the machine, the up to date UF allows me to know when it's time to end the manual drain process. 

We talked to Baxter and her PD nurse and have come to the conclusion that the lack of manual drains is a real shortfall in this new cycler.  If you are a slow drainer and use manuals to make sure you are dry, this machine is not for you.

It's also very detailed and once you gain experience with it, the step by step display and confirmation pushes on the screen will drive you crazy.  Oh and also it requires you to enter in your current blood pressure readings, weight, blood sugar level, temperature, prior to disconnecting.  Our dialysis provider is going to convert all HomeChoice patients to this new machine, but it's not for everybody.

Jack
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