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[MooseMom]

But that is not his natural skin color.  That is no one's natural skin color.  Same went for John Boehner.  I suspect Boehner just drank too much.  I think Trump has, at least in the past, used a sunbed or some sort of self tanning lotion or spray on tan.  You can tell because the skin around his eyes is very white; that's indicative of the use of eye protectors.  And that's the smart way to go.

Some sexists voted against Clinton because she was a woman.  Some racists voted against Obama because of his color.  But that does not mean that everyone who voted in that fashion is either sexist or racist.

If you voted for him because you truly believe he will bring back jobs that are probably gone forever, that's fair enough.  I've always said that if he can help ALL Americans prosper economically,  I'd be thrilled.  I wish I had the confidence in him that you do, rerun.  You know, I've asked at least three time for people to help me feel reassured, to give me some reason to believe that Trump is the man for the job and that he will work for ALL of us and won't piss off the world in the meantime. 

I've stated many times that I am really worried, and I've asked for some soothing words and for someone to tell me why my fears are unfounded.  But all I hear is blather and puffery and a good smattering of gloating.  It worries me that even his supporters have nothing comforting to share with me. 

[MooseMom]

KAS I'm glad you voted.  You have a right to say something.  Half of the protesters didn't. 

Who says that "half of the protesters didn't vote".  Well, I guess perhaps that may be true if you count all of the people overseas that didn't voted because they couldn't, not being US citizens and all.

Our public schools SUCK I use to volunteer in them.  They are so Broken.  We do need smaller charter schools run by the state not the national level.  Our United States kids rank 23rd in the world.  Just heard that.  No wonder Google and Apple hire 60 percent from overseas.  We are Dumb...

And how is Betsy DeVos going to address this state of affairs?  I mean, Trump DOES love "the poorly educated".  He said so.

[iolaire]

You know, I've asked at least three time for people to help me feel reassured, to give me some reason to believe that Trump is the man for the job and that he will work for ALL of us and won't piss off the world in the meantime. 

And in that time what has happened...? 

i.e. Europe Must Defend Itself Against A Dangerous President
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/a-1133177-amp.html

It still would be interesting to know why people don't worry about his actions.

[Simon Dog]

Well, I guess perhaps that may be true if you count all of the people overseas that didn't voted because they couldn't, not being US citizens and all.

Overseas people not liking a US president that is going to treat US like a business trying to get the best deal for the US at the expense of other countries (which is how capitalism works, and what I expect them to do to us) does not bother me in the least.

[Rerun]

Oh man.... I had this long post and lost it because I didn't see ioLaire jumped in front. 

Betsy got where she is today by not going to public school.  Maybe she wants to help America down the Alternative road that leads to success and Americans Google and Apple can hire instead of just Uber...  I like what I've seen in Charter Schools.

I like the way Donald is making deals already keeping jobs in America.  Even if it is 800 at a time.  I like that he wants to get the criminal undocumented (ILLEGAL) people back to their home.  I like the way he wants to create a safe zone for Syrians to stay in there OWN country.  I like that he calls these Islamic Extremists what they are.  Obama could never do that.  Again, this temporary travel ban is not on Muslims.  Or Saudi Arabia and India would be on there. 

His children are very grounded.  At least the fist 3.  The other 2 we can wait on. 

He is not taking a paycheck for being President.  He is giving this huge chunk of his life for us.  To try and bring back jobs and some law and order and morals and value of life.  He is 70 years and has learned a lot in his life and his views have changed as I'm sure happens as we grow older and see things.

I had more but am getting tired of typing. 

[Charlie B53]

Trump is NOT a 'Career Politician'.  He is NOT acting in the interest of any Political Party.

It is the Political Parties, BOTH, the Democrats and the Republicans, that have driven this Country so far in Debt.  Congree spending money they do NOT have.  Congress spending more time getting re-elected, than doing anything that may actually help the Country rather than help their Political Party.

We all need to vote out ALL of those Career Politicians.  Replace them with anyone, businessman, farmer, laborer, anyone that has half a brain and sound common sense.  Serve a term, make some improvements, balance the budget, and GET OUT.  Set term limits.

SCREW Politics, copmpletely.  Politics have done nothing good for our Country.

[Simon Dog]

We had a Democrat in MA who ran for Congress on a platform of "term limits" (Marty Meehan)

Once he reached the end of his term, he changed his mind about term limits, and since he is a Democrat in MA, easily won re-election.

[Rerun]

We had a Democrat in MA who ran for Congress on a platform of "term limits" (Marty Meehan)

Once he reached the end of his term, he changed his mind about term limits, and since he is a Democrat in MA, easily won re-election.

Oh man, that takes guts to be that dishonest.  Go Figure~

[Charlie B53]

Most every Politician is that dishonest.  Campaigning they will tell anything and everything they feel the Voters want simply in order to get those votes.  Once elected they begin stalling, blaming the 'Other Political Party' for not allowing them to make any of those campaigned Promises.

They ALL Lie, that's what Politicians do.  Why hasn't the voting public wised up to these frauds?

Because most simply don't bother to get out and vote, thinking it won't make any difference.


News flash, I would have to Google it to provide the quote, BUT... One 'Career Politician' in Congress was quoted as admitting "that if the vote made any difference we (meaning Congress) would make it illegal."

These people feel they are 'above' all of us mere taxpayers.

Like the Politburo, the Ruling Elite.  They can do whatever they want.

[MooseMom]

The United States of America is a democracy (at least, for now), and as such, the electorate must take responsibility for those we elect to represent us.

All congresspeople have to be elected and then re-elected if they choose to run again, and again it is the electorate that can vote as they please.

If a particular electorate likes their congressional representative enough to keep voting for that person for many years, then that is their right.  If they no longer want that person to represent them, then they can vote him/her out.

We, the people, create "career politicians".  It is pointless to rage against "career politicians" when it is their constituents that are to blame.

[MooseMom]

Because most simply don't bother to get out and vote, thinking it won't make any difference.

Would you support a Constitutional amendment making it mandatory to vote?

Would you support making it easier to vote rather than making it harder as in what Texas tried to do with their voter ID law?

[Simon Dog]

Would you support making it easier to vote rather than making it harder as in what Texas tried to do with their voter ID law?

I would need to see a demographic analysis to see if it helped or hurt candidates representing my views.  (there, I said what is really in the mind of every D and R when taking action on this issue).   After all what matters in politics is winning, not playing fair.  (as long as you don't get indicted)

[MooseMom]

I would need to see a demographic analysis to see if it helped or hurt candidates representing my views.  (there, I said what is really in the mind of every D and R when taking action on this issue).   After all what matters in politics is winning, not playing fair.  (as long as you don't get indicted)

It is this sentiment that creates a "politburo", "career politicians" and the "political elite".  You reap what you sow.

It is also the "rules" that guide politics in third world countries. 

[Simon Dog]

It is this sentiment that creates a "politburo", "career politicians" and the "political elite".  You reap what you sow.

It is also the "rules" that guide politics in third world countries.

If you sow anything else, what you will reap is election losses and a lack of political power.

As to your second point - excellent observation, very true.

None of these Democrats would care about "expanding the voting base" if Republicans were having a hard time voting because they were too busy at work, nor would Republicans care about voter ID if the voters without government papers tended to vote Republican.   Neither party is honest enough to be open about its moves.

[Rerun]

The United States of America is a democracy (at least, for now), and as such, the electorate must take responsibility for those we elect to represent us.

Frequently, politicians, and many ordinary Americans, refer to the United States as a democracy. Others find this aggravating because, unlike in a democracy where citizens vote directly on laws, in the United States, elected representatives do – and, therefore, the U.S. is a republic.

[Athena]

You know, I've asked at least three time for people to help me feel reassured, to give me some reason to believe that Trump is the man for the job and that he will work for ALL of us and won't piss off the world in the meantime. 

And in that time what has happened...? 

i.e. Europe Must Defend Itself Against A Dangerous President
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/a-1133177-amp.html

It still would be interesting to know why people don't worry about his actions.

On the contrary Iolaire, there are a great number of European citizens who approve of Donald Trump and what he aims to do, eg the Brexit movement in the UK that has recently voted to leave the EU out of concerns for national sovereignty & unsustainable immigration levels. Nigel Farage is a notable spokesperson of this movement and is prominent Trump supporter. The EU, a great leftwing socialist bloc is in deep crisis and is facing revolt from many of its member countries. Many so called 'right wing' anti-immigration parties are forming within key prominent European countries, the bulk of which support Trump.

[MooseMom]

Athena, believe it or not, I can understand why some Europeans agree with what Trump claims he is trying to do.  But I have a terrible feeling that some of what Trump wants to do will be a detriment to Europeans as a whole.

Nigel Farage may the be the spokesperson for the populist movement in the UK, but he has no governmental power.  He is accountable for nothing.

Donald Trump, however, is accountable for everything now.  He will be held accountable for the security of much of the world.  He will be held accountable for the economic prosperity of much of the world.  Remember, it's "American First", so the rest of you don't really count in his world.

But he will not be able to concentrate long enough to get anything done because he spends far too much time and energy on criticizing the Judiciary Branch of our country or dissing Nordstrom for dropping his daughter's fashion line.  He, as a businessman, should understand that you drop projects that don't make you enough profit.  You seem to pay enough attention to the man to see for yourself that he takes responsibility for absolutely nothing. 

And it is not just Trump.  There are problems with the people who surround him.  He can't fill the hundreds of government positions that are still unmanned. 

Ultimately, the kind of human being who occupies the White House is of great importance.  There are many people who now see that this man is unfit for the privilege of serving this nation as President.  There is a reason that there have been worldwide protests against him.

[Simon Dog]

Remember, it's "American First", so the rest of you don't really count in his world.

Nope.  We expect Russia, China, North Korea, etc. to be operating with their national interests as their top priority.  It's called competition.

[MooseMom]

"National interests" may be their top priority, but their national interests will amount to nothing if the world becomes engulfed in war.  "Competition" for land and resources is always the foundation of war.  There is a myriad of ways for a nation to achieve their top priority, one of which is called cooperation.  You have to have cooperation if you want to engage in trade, and for trade to be successful and lucrative, you have to have peace and security so that trade routes and the access to resources remain unimpeded, and again, that is made possible by cooperation.  Unless, of course, you want to engage in war where we can just go into a country and take what we want (like oil).

[Rerun]

Engaging in Trade has to be fair.  Even as little kids, when one kid tries to trade 5 marbles for 10 and a kid who wants to be liked does it again and again at some point the kid doesn't care if he is liked or not.  He is not going to be taken advantage of.  So then the war may begin because Hey you won't let me take advantage of you any more so I'm mad.

So be it.

[Charlie B53]

Because most simply don't bother to get out and vote, thinking it won't make any difference.

Would you support a Constitutional amendment making it mandatory to vote?

Would you support making it easier to vote rather than making it harder as in what Texas tried to do with their voter ID law?

Hell YES , I would support anything that would get 'The People' more involved, to do their part, and Vote.   Photo ID needs to be required to prevent any fraud.  All States have Photo ID's or Drivers Licenses.  It would be an easy fix.

Poll open times and places need to be reviewed.  There are those without transportation, work schedules, unexpected Hospitalizations, and a myrad of other reasons why they cannot get to the Polls on time, unexpected delays make it impossible to expect to get an early absentee ballot.  The current voting system has serious flaws that need attention to make it available for ALL Legal Voters to exercise their DUTY to Vote.

[Simon Dog]

Photo ID needs to be required to prevent any fraud.  All States have Photo ID's or Drivers Licenses.  It would be an easy fix.

Democrats hate this, since there is a correlation between not having papers and being of a lower caste.

[MooseMom]

Oh, I've just gotta ask.  Do you think Trump really believes that Nordstrom's decision to drop Ivanka's brand from their stores is an "attack" on him?   

[MooseMom]

Photo ID needs to be required to prevent any fraud.  All States have Photo ID's or Drivers Licenses.  It would be an easy fix.

Democrats hate this, since there is a correlation between not having papers and being of a lower caste.

A "lower caste"?  Where are we?  India?

The only documented voter fraud in this past election was perpetrated by Republican voters, btw.  Still, there were so few of them that it doesn't justify the actions that some states have taken to make it harder to vote.  Things like early voting, which many red states have greatly restricted, doesn't do anything to reduce this so-called "fraud".  VOTING FRAUD IS PRACTICALLY NON-EXISTENT IN THE USA, SO PLEASE GIVE US EVIDENCE THAT IT IS A YUUUGE PROBLEM!  THANK YOU!  (Unless you count Russian hacking and Putin's influence!)

[kickingandscreaming]

I think poor little Ivanka is having a sad because she has never known rejection in her short, privileged life.  Her products are crap, designs stolen from others more talented than she.  I thought the "Market" was God.  Let it decide what stays and what goes.  Trump, the narcissist probably does feel the attack as a narcissist's children are a total extension of him.