Predictions for a Trump presidency

[MooseMom]

I predict Trump won't make it through the 1st year!  Pence will take over.

Whoa.............hang on a minute.  President Pence would be another kind of terrifying.

[nursey66]

True ,but he is the next in line   

[kickingandscreaming]

There are those who think that Pence is already doing the presidenting and Trump is just a figurehead who bops around rallies soaking up "the love."  Trump seems ensconced in his tower in his own world taking orders from Bannon and maybe Flynn or Conway. And Ivanca.

[MooseMom]

There are those who think that Pence is already doing the presidenting and Trump is just a figurehead who bops around rallies soaking up "the love."  Trump seems ensconced in his tower in his own world taking orders from Bannon and maybe Flynn or Conway. And Ivanca.

There are many more who KNOW this to be true.  It's no secret.  This was how the deal was presented to Pence in the first place.

[Rerun]

Fake News? 

I heard that on CBS and they were happy with it.  Thought you would be too!  Guess not?    

You are S___ is as S____ does.          (trying to stay within the rules)   

[MooseMom]

I predict he will take one HUGE Vacation and let tons of drug dealers out of jail and Let thousands of refugees in America.

Oh, wait, that is Obama!     

Well,  I am happy about it!

The Obamas are certainly entitled to a long and well deserved vacation!  I hope they have a wonderful time.  Throughout this transition period, the Obamas have been the only people who have shown any grace whatsoever, and Donald Trump owes them bigly.

There are too many petty druggies in our for-profit, corporate run prisons, and we all know the stats that show that Latinos or blacks are more likely to be imprisoned for the same drug crimes than their white counterparts.  We have more people imprisoned than any other country on earth, so I am delighted that Obama is doing something about it.

We should be ashamed that we are so scared of refugees who have been subjected to such horrors.  Refugees who are allowed into this country have been through a 2 year MINIMUM vetting process,  but people like Donald Trump and his followers are cowards and are selfish.  We think we are so special, so brave and so exceptional, yet we allow ourselves to be frightened by people who have been through an experience more terrifying than anyone of us could possibly imagine.  So I say let them in.  Let them come in and help revitalize towns that are experiencing economic downturns.  This exact thing is already happening all over our country, and I am all for stepping it up.

[Rerun]

You are flip flopping, Again.

I'm accused of FAKE News and a liar.... but then you agree with what Obama has done, is doing.... And you are happy.

Is it because you finally heard it yourself?  or I quoted CBS instead of Fox.  What a lefty.

Shame on you!   You know what?  We WON so I don't care about your whining.  Loser!

[MooseMom]

You're confusing me with K@S, Rerun.

I'm proud of being a "lefty" just as you are proud of being a Trumpy.  So what?

CBS and every other media outlet has been conned into reporting on "fake news", so CBS is no different than FOX in my mind.  But no matter the source of information, all of those actions taken by Obama are true.  No one is denying them, so yes, I am happy.

What exactly do you think you've won?

[Rerun]

Merry Christmas MM

I need to enjoy the season.  2017 should be the best year for both of us.      

[MooseMom]

Merry Christmas MM

I need to enjoy the season.  2017 should be the best year for both of us.   

I wholeheartedly agree with you, Rerun!  You've been a renal warrior for years and a champion of IHD, and I appreciate you and hope that this season and all of 2017 brings you nothing but peace.  I love you dearly.     No political punditry from any side can change that! 

[bhgammon]

I see no need to take sides in what is posted on this forum, as it is no more than a snapshot of our present entire American society. For the last eight years, we all have been privileged to have the “most transparent government” in American history, thanks to “Honest Abe” Barrack Obama.
What Americans have always known to be true is now shattered to smithereens. We are at each other’s throat.  The progress since the 60’s that we have made in racial equality, is now set back decades. We have compromised our international integrity. Our national debt is devouring us alive. Our border security is - - - - - um, why name something that doesn’t exist?

The last national election allowed us to narrowly escape more of the same. We now have someone who, overall has been unusually successful in most of his endeavors, many of his principal talents can be applied to obtaining successful outcomes in a host of ambitions. It is a given that this man is a very different player in the field that he is entering, but this country desperately need a new course if we are to weather the storms that are on the horizon.

If the last 66 years doesn’t demonstrate the instability of factors controlling our country, you need to take a break and just allow your common sense to function, for a change. As we stand now, we are becoming ripe for picking by some very unfriendly powers. It just may be that our President-Elect, if given the support than anyone deserves, will in fact, prove to be a very gifted person at a time when certainly need one. If you don’t make the best on what you have, what can you expect but the worst.

I remember VJ day. It’s my bet that many of you don’t know what that is. That doesn’t mean that I am smart, but that many years does give me some wisdom!

 

[Michael Murphy]

In 2003 I was working at AT&T when George Bush invaded Iraq.  I thought it was a stupid move, I also thought the way they invaded was stupid.  I was called every name from unamerican to traitor.  I must admit I did not support Bush in 2000 and thought his election was a travesty.  But the American people bought in to this and fully supported it.  It turned out I was right and by 2006 the American people regretted the election of Bush.   I could be wrong but I feel the American people made another dumb choice.  Either in Korea, Mideast, or the South China Sea I firmly believe his loose cannon approach to diplomacy will again involve us in a war a bad as Iraq 2003,

[bhgammon]

 

There is not one thing that our President-Elect has said, or done, that has not prompted criticism, and this is fine, during the campaign; but we are past that and we have a President-Elect, not a candidate. We have what we have, and that is it, period. If we are to make a better future, we must look forward in a positive manner, if we see our leader putting his foot into the swamp he may be going in to pull the plug. It often is that the team with the most positive support ends up being the winning team. Criticism is rarely productive, unless it is constructive criticism. If that is true, we have an awful lot of people shooting themselves in the foot when they should be putting on their work boots.

[Jean]

 A voice from the wilderness at last. I agree with you, what is done is done, stop trying to rip us all to pieces and offer positive solutions to problems, not the ripping apart that has been going on in this post. Your attitude is a lot like Rerun's and mine also, and it would be nice to be in accord again.
Thanks

[Michael Murphy]

If the voices supporting Drumph the idiot said the same thing 8 years ago maybe I would feel the need to respect the president elect.  But he spent the last 8 years leading the disrespectful attacks on the current president.  As you sow you shall reap.  The republicans disgraceful actions of the past 8 years provide a blueprint for the democratic actions of the next 8 years.  This pervert is the president,  but he does not have a mandate since almost 3 million more people voted for his opponent.   The democrats must obstruct, oppose, and delay this moron at every step.  It's going to be a fund next 4 years.

[kickingandscreaming]

Trump is not a republican or a conservative.  He is a neo-fascist and I will oppose his dictatorship to the fullest extent possible.  That is what a true American patriot would do, not just roll over and accept the next iteration of Hitler because a lot of uninformed people who wanted to destroy America voted for him.  All our brave veterans didn't fight WW2 so that this dangerous man could then repeat the atrocity.  They say that history doesn't repeat itself, it rhymes. 

Trump was illegitimately "elected" by Comey, the rogue FBI and by Vladimir Putin.  Just because he has an "R" after his name does not make him legitimate.

[bhgammon]

If the voices supporting Drumph the idiot said the same thing 8 years ago maybe I would feel the need to respect the president elect.  But he spent the last 8 years leading the disrespectful attacks on the current president.  As you sow you shall reap.  The republicans disgraceful actions of the past 8 years provide a blueprint for the democratic actions of the next 8 years.  This pervert is the president,  but he does not have a mandate since almost 3 million more people voted for his opponent.   The democrats must obstruct, oppose, and delay this moron at every step.  It's going to be a fund next 4 years.

Oh my! The voice (Michael Moore) of elections past, at the most appropriate season. With due respect for your status on this fantastic forum, that is where it stops. My grandmother was a Murphy, thank God, not from the same genetic pool (swamp) as yours. She was an immigrant, legal, I might add, and she loved America with a fiery passion. She baby-sat me for many years while my parents worked. It was by her teachings that helped build the solid foundation that I stand on today. She, and millions of others like her were the people that struggled to construct what became the greatest country in history.

Today we are witness to the worst attack this nation has ever suffered, and it comes from, not only a foreign power, but from within. How do we respond to this attack and the one that is simultaneously occurring by an enemy that cuts off heads and bombs our people in the streets?

Your comments typify the mentality that is fueling the fire that threatens to destroy this country, and the enemy that cuts off heads, sees your actions as that of an unwitting co-conspirator.

As Americans, we have to choose to see the challenges that we face for what they are. A sole political party cannot, and will not, be capable of meeting these challenges. As in the past, today’s challenges must be met by all Americans, united together by the common sense that has fortified our basic freedom for over 200 years. The BS is becoming too deep, and it is not coming from just one direction. We have stepped off our solid rock and we are in quicksand; the more we struggle, the more entrapped we become. - - - - Duh = (look it up!).

[Blake nighsonger]

Trump and Putin  are like two high school kids bragging about who has the biggest johnson (nuclear arsenal) and i predict neither one will go into the shower room together to find out .

[Michael Murphy]

I refuse to respond to personal attacks, however your response mimics your your new hero who responds to criticism with personal attacks.

[MooseMom]

She, and millions of others like her were the people that struggled to construct what became the greatest country in history.

I have no doubt that's true, but don't forget the millions of others who were NOT like her who constructed what became the greatest country in the world.

[Simon Dog]

I refuse to respond to personal attacks, however your response mimics your your new hero who responds to criticism with personal attacks.

One could argue that the above is a response   

[MooseMom]

Your comments typify the mentality that is fueling the fire that threatens to destroy this country, and the enemy that cuts off heads, sees your actions as that of an unwitting co-conspirator.

This is a very dangerous statement.  It is hyperbolic and is also an unreasonable non-sequitur.

As Americans, we have to choose to see the challenges that we face for what they are. A sole political party cannot, and will not, be capable of meeting these challenges. As in the past, today’s challenges must be met by all Americans, united together by the common sense that has fortified our basic freedom for over 200 years. The BS is becoming too deep, and it is not coming from just one direction. We have stepped off our solid rock and we are in quicksand; the more we struggle, the more entrapped we become. - - - - Duh = (look it up!).

In today's partisan climate, illustrated in part by your comment above regarding how people who oppose Trump are actually ISIS co-conspirators, how do you propose to unite this country?  What do you think that the new President can do and should do to show that he will work to be the President for ALL Americans?  Obama was criticized by his own party for trying to work with the opposition party, and the GOP famously worked to make him a one term president.  Congress is filled with men with egos the size of a small planet, men who revel in influence and power.  How will the President-Elect change this dynamic?

[Simon Dog]

Congress is filled with men with egos the size of a small planet, men who revel in influence and power.  How will the President-Elect change this dynamic?

Trump?   The man is the definition of ego personified.

[MooseMom]

You know, it is Christmas Day, and the last thing I want to be thinking about is our partisan politics.  But truth be told, these past few months have been hard for my family for various reasons that are irrelevant here, and I am not in the best of spirits.

A Trump presidency frightens me, and I don't want to be frightened.  I am truly anxious about our country's future.  You can call me a sore loser if you want, but honestly, that's not it.  I feel really worried and scared, and I have so far seen nothing yet to console me.

I am hoping that once Trump is actually President, things will find some sense of balance, and we can get on with it.  But that's still a month away and does not help to decrease my anxiety level.

So in the spirit of Christmas, I respectfully ask those of you who support Trump to please give me some morsels of hope.  Please tell me why it "won't be so bad".  Please don't say stuff like, "He's going to make America great again."  If you DO want to say that, please tell me how you believe he will do that.  Please show me how he can be MY president, too.  Tell me what he is going to do for me, someone who is on the more liberal side of the spectrum.  How is going to make MY life better?  How is he going to ensure MY financial and economic security?  How is he going to help ME as I get older?  How is he going to protect MY access to health care?  How is going to treat the people I care about who are gay?  How is going to make it harder for ME to be shot by some nutjob with a gun?  How is he going to keep MY country from becoming isolationist?

Seriously, I would SO appreciate some reassurance.  I really want our country to be successful, and I am so very worried.  I really need y'all's help!

Thank you.  Really, thank you!

[MooseMom]

Congress is filled with men with egos the size of a small planet, men who revel in influence and power.  How will the President-Elect change this dynamic?

Trump?   The man is the definition of ego personified.

Well, he's going to be our leader.  A change away from this hyper-partisanship is going to have to begin with him.