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« on: December 14, 2016, 02:12:38 PM »

Our initial (1st 10 min.) venous pressure has jumped about 40 to 200 then settles back to 135 for the remaining 3 1/2 hour treatment. The 135 is normal for us but we used to start at around 160. The buttonhole is about 2 1/2 years old. Should we be worried since the 135 is still the pressure during treatment ? Maybe the buttonhole is getting old. Our arterial pressure remains at 110 with a Qb of 340. Any ideas? Thanks.
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« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2016, 04:16:27 PM »

When my venous pressure used to be higher at the start, and dropped to virtually normal later, it used to turn out the fistula needed ballooning. Have you been for a scan lately? As it's the venous it could be higher up the arm (the narrowing).
It could also be that the needle moves to a more comfy position (that's what I used to think antway).

No point worrying, just have a scan done, cause something is different, and it could be something 'simple'.

Luck and love, Cas
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I started out with nothing and I still have most of it left

1983 high proteinloss in urine, chemo, stroke,coma, dialysis
1984 double nephrectomy
1985 transplant from dad
1998 lost dads kidney, start PD
2003 peritineum burst, back to hemo
2012 start Nxstage home hemo
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       still on waitinglist, still ok I think
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« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2016, 07:43:44 AM »

While 200 is not Bad for the Venus, I get nervous with any change. I usually start at about 200 and settle down to 150 ish.

watch it for a day or two. If in doubt, call the clinic.
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6 Fistula grams in 5 months,  New upper fistula Oct 2015, But now old one working fine, until August 2016 and it stopped, tried an angio, still no good
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« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2016, 05:45:38 PM »

Our initial (1st 10 min.) venous pressure has jumped about 40 to 200 then settles back to 135 for the remaining 3 1/2 hour treatment. The 135 is normal for us but we used to start at around 160. The buttonhole is about 2 1/2 years old. Should we be worried since the 135 is still the pressure during treatment ? Maybe the buttonhole is getting old. Our arterial pressure remains at 110 with a Qb of 340. Any ideas? Thanks.

My husband uses buttonholes too. Whenever he experiences changes in pressure (venous or arterial) he's usually needed a balloon job (angioplasty). He's had his fistula a little more than 3 years and altho he's needed several angioplasties, these balloon jobs are what has helped keep his fistula alive. If you've gone more than 2 years without needing any ballooning, I'd say that is pretty good. Won't hurt to get a scan. Better to get ahead of things for just in case than to have your fistula suddenly stop working.
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« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2016, 09:47:13 AM »

Thanks for the comments. I was kind of hoping since we run at 135 VP all except the first 10 min that all might be OK (for now). We had a revision 2 1/2 years ago in her upper arm and all has been great since then. I'll definitely watch it closely !!
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