War on Cops

[Jean]

Oh No, Moose Mom, your statement was that Trump was waging a war on cops. You posted it and brought it into this post, not me.

[MooseMom]

Oh No, Moose Mom, your statement was that Trump was waging a war on cops. You posted it and brought it into this post, not me.

You know what, Jean.  You are right, and I am very grateful for your post because it gives me the opportunity to clarify my statement.

Donald Trump is waging a war on our Department of Justice.

Donald Trump is waging a war on our FBI.

Donald Trump is waging a war on our Department of State.

Donald Trump is waging a war on our democracy.

Donald Trump is waging a war on civil discourse.

Donald Trump is waging a war on the 99%.

Donald Trump is waging a war on immigrants.

Donald Trump is waging a war on America's place in the world.

Donald Trump is waging a war on Christians.

Donald Trump is waging a war on women.

Donald Trump is waging a war on our national security.

Donald Trump is waging a war on the media.

Donald Trump is waging a war on the NFL.

Donald Trump is waging a war on the environment.

And Donald Trump will wage war against cops when a posse of them come to pick him up for Obstruction of Justice against the United States of America.

[Jean]

So sorry MM, but, you are dead wrong. None of this crap is going any further than your  dreams, and none of it is going to happen. As I have said before, time will tell.

[MooseMom]

I can't believe I forgot this one...

Donald Trump is also waging a war on truth.

Jean, again, you are right!  Time will tell.

I have a prediction.  The Democrats will win loads of seats in the midterms, but Trump won't be able to accept the results and will blame it on Russian interference.  And he'll be right.

Donald Trump is also waging a war on parades.

[Michael Murphy]

I don’t know how the Mueller investigation will end but at least some of Trumps closest advisors during the campaign have either plead guilty or have been indicted for crimes involving foreign governments, finally I know trumps family have repeatedly lied about meetings with Russian agents.  He Republican Congress is going to great lengths to manufacture reasons to stop the investigation.
Why?   The American people have a right to know if the Presidunce serves them or his buddy Putin.

[Simon Dog]

Funny how it suddenly so bad that Russia tried to influence our election to further its national interests, but it's just accepted practice that the US does the same to other countries.   Just look at the Obama effort to aid the opponents of Netanyahu.

It's sort of like hoe waterboarding is an "advanced interrogation technique" if done by our soldiers, but "torture" if done to our soldiers.

[Michael Murphy]

There is a difference between Obama’s effort in Israel and Russian efforts in 2016.  Obama did what he did openly and within the law.  The Russian efforts were clear violation of US law hacking computers is a felony and any involvement with it is also a felony.

[Jean]

Correct, but lets not forget that near the end of his term, Obama passed a whole bunch of things that we were not made aware of.

[MooseMom]

Correct, but lets not forget that near the end of his term, Obama passed a whole bunch of things that we were not made aware of.

Like what?

[Simon Dog]

Correct, but lets not forget that near the end of his term, Obama passed a whole bunch of things that we were not made aware of.

Like what?

It Jean could answer that question, we would be aware of the things, thus rendering the statement false.

It's like the old paradox "This statement is false".

[Simon Dog]

There is a difference between Obama’s effort in Israel and Russian efforts in 2016.  Obama did what he did openly and within the law.  The Russian efforts were clear violation of US law hacking computers is a felony and any involvement with it is also a felony.

Many of the complaints are about legal, but sleazy things - like buying ads and circulating false information on social media.

[MooseMom]

Many of the complaints are about legal, but sleazy things - like buying ads and circulating false information on social media.

To be fair, I used to think the same, ie, that Russian hackers were just trying to sow chaos by buying ads/circulating weird lies on social media, knowing that there was a certain part of the population that would eagerly believe anything negative about Hillary Clinton. 

But yesterday, for the first time, a spokeswoman for the Department of Homeland Security revealed that yes, the Russians DID infiltrate voter systems in the US.  So, there is every possibility that they DID change the outcome of the election.  All they had to do was to change a few votes in states like Wisconsin and Michigan.  First we were told that there was no evidence that the Russians hacked our voter systems, but now we know that wasn't true.  Now we are being told that there is no evidence that their illegal hacking changed the outcome of the election.  I now believe that is not true.

Whether or not Trump colluded with the Russians is another story, but the damage has already been done.  If Clinton had won, and if there had been this same evidence that the Russians had infiltrated voters systems in this country, does anyone think that Trump and his supporters would have accepted the results?  If Trump did NOT collude, he sure isn't doing much to find the truth AND to prevent it from happening again in the midterms.  And Rex Tillerson has said that it is already happening. 

This is war on our democracy.

[Jean]

Well, I have a list of 40 bills, etc. passed by Congress from Trump. Do you seriously want them all?

[MooseMom]

Well, I have a list of 40 bills, etc. passed by Congress from Trump. Do you seriously want them all?

If they are the items you said Obama passed without us being aware of them, then how about you telling us about, say, 10 of them.  I'm not sure which bills passed by Congress from Trump you are referring to.  I assume that Congress HAS passed bills backed by Trump.  I'm not questioning that.