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« Reply #25 on: July 09, 2016, 07:21:51 AM »

It seems like our military is also "dummied down"...  Pons.....
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« Reply #26 on: July 09, 2016, 09:13:23 AM »

"When the poor come to understand that they are likely to be detained and fined for comically absurd crimes, it can't be a surprise to the police that their officers are viewed with increasing distrust. In this environment, running away from a cop is not an act of suspicion; it's common sense."

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Police Shootings Won't Stop Unless We Also Stop Shaking Down Black People
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In April, several days after North Charleston, South Carolina, police officer Michael Slager stopped Walter Scott for a busted taillight and then fatally shot him, the usual cable-news transmogrification of victim into superpredator ran into problems. The dash cam showed Scott being pulled over while traveling at a nerdy rate of speed, using his left turn signal to pull into a parking lot and having an amiable conversation with Slager until he realized he'd probably get popped for nonpayment of child support. At which point he bolted out of the car and hobbled off. Slager then shot him. Why didn't the cop just jog up and grab him? Calling what the obese 50-year-old Scott was doing "running" really stretches the bounds of literary license.

But maybe the question to ask is: Why did Scott run? The answer came when the New York Times revealed Scott to be a man of modest means trapped in an exhausting hamster wheel: He would get a low-paying job, make some child support payments, fall behind on them, get fined, miss a payment, get jailed for a few weeks, lose that job due to absence, and then start over at a lower-paying job. From all apparent evidence, he was a decent schlub trying to make things work in a system engineered to make his life miserable and recast his best efforts as criminal behavior.

Recently, two more deaths of African Americans that have blown up in the media follow a pattern similar to Scott's. Sandra Bland in Texas and Samuel DuBose in Cincinnati were each stopped for minor traffic infractions (failing to use turn signal, missing front license plate), followed by immediate escalation by the officer into rage, and then an official story that is obviously contradicted by the video (that the officer tried to "de-escalate" the tension with Bland; that the officer was dragged by DuBose's car). In both cases, the perpetrator of a minor traffic offense died.

When incidents of police violence come to light, the usual defense is that we should not tarnish all the good cops just because of "a few bad apples." No one can argue with that. But what is usually implied in that phrase is that the "bad" officers' intentions are malevolent—that they are morally corrupt and racist. And that may be true, but they are also bad in the job-performance sense. These men are crummy cops, sometimes profoundly so. Slager had a record for gratuitously using his Taser. Timothy Leohmann, who leapt from his car and instantly killed 12-year-old Tamir Rice, had been deemed "weepy" and unable to "emotionally function" by a supervisor at his previous PD job, who added: "I do not believe time, nor training, will be able to change or correct these deficiencies." Ferguson's Darren Wilson was also fired from his previous job—actually, the entire police force of Jennings, Missouri, was disbanded for being awful.

When you ask why such "bad" cops are nevertheless armed and allowed to patrol the streets, one begins to see that lurking beneath this violence is a fiscal menace: police departments forced to assist city officials in raising revenue, in many cases funding their own salaries—redirecting the very concept of keeping the peace into underwriting the budget.

We saw a glimpse of this when the Justice Department released its report on Ferguson in March. In his statement, then-Attorney General Eric Holder referenced a lady in town whose life sounded Walter Scott-like. She had received two parking tickets totaling $151. Her efforts to pay those fines fell so behind that she eventually paid out more than $500. At one point, she was jailed for nonpayment and—eight years later—still owes $541 in accrued fees.

The judge largely responsible for the extraction of these fees from Ferguson's poor, Ronald J. Brockmeyer, owed $172,646 in back taxes, a sum orders of magnitude greater than any late fine coming before his bench. Even as he was jailing black ladies for parking tickets, Brockmeyer was allegedly erasing citations for white Ferguson residents who happened to be his friends. After the report's publication, he resigned so that Ferguson could "begin its healing process."
When you ask why such "bad" cops are  armed and allowed to patrol the streets, one begins to see that lurking beneath this violence is a fiscal menace.

But consider: In 2010, this collaboration between the Ferguson police and the courts generated $1.4 million in income for the city. This year, they will more than double that amount—$3.1 million—providing nearly a quarter of the city's $13 million budget, almost all of it extracted from its poorest African American citizens.

Evidence also suggests that this new form of raising revenue—policiteering?—goes far beyond Ferguson. Remember the recent Oklahoma case involving Robert Bates, a 73-year-old millionaire insurance broker with scant law enforcement background who was allowed to go out on patrol—likely because he had donated lots of money and equipment to the local sheriff's office? He killed an unarmed black suspect when he grabbed his gun instead of his Taser. In the days that followed, we learned that other deputies had long resented this guy's freelance incompetence.

"Essentially, these small towns in urban areas have municipal infrastructure that can't be supported by the tax base, and so they ticket everything in sight to keep the town functioning," said William Maurer, a lawyer with the Institute for Justice who has been studying the sudden rise in "nontraffic-related fines."

Take the St. Louis suburb of Pagedale, where, among other Norman Rockwell-worthy features deemed illegal, "you can't have a hedge more than three feet high," Maurer says. "You can't have a basketball hoop or a wading pool in front of a house. You can't have a dish antenna on the front of your house. You can't walk on the roadway if there is a sidewalk, and if there is not a sidewalk, they must walk on the left side of the roadway. They must walk on the right of the crosswalk. They can't conduct a barbecue in the front yard and can't have an alcoholic beverage within 150 feet of a barbecue. Kids cannot play in the street. They also have restrictions against pants being worn below the waist in public. Cars must be within 500 feet of a lamp or a source of illumination during nighttime hours. Blinds must be neatly hung in respectable appearance, properly maintained, and in a state of good repair."

Where did this Kafkaesque laundry list come from? Maurer explains that in 2010, Missouri passed a law that capped the amount of city revenue that any agency could generate from traffic stops. The intent was to limit small-town speed traps, but the unintentional consequences are now clear: Pagedale saw a 495 percent increase in nontraffic-related arrests. "In Frontenac, the increase was 364 percent," Maurer says. "In Lakeshire, it was 209 percent."
It is probably no coincidence that when you examine the recent rash of police killings, you find that the offenses the victims were initially stopped for were preposterously minor.

This racket now has many variants. South Carolina hosts "Operation Rolling Thunder," an annual dragnet in which 21 different law enforcement agencies swarm stretches of I-85 and I-26 in the name of catching drug dealers. In 2013, this law enforcement Bonnaroo netted 1,300 traffic citations and 300 speeding tickets. But after everyone had paid up, the operation boasted exactly one felony conviction.

A different strategy in San Diego simply tacks on various fees to an existing fine. A 2012 Union Tribune investigation revealed that while speeding is a simple $35 fine, other government agencies can tack on as many as 10 other surcharges, including: a state penalty assessment, $40; county penalty assessment, $36; court construction, $20; state surcharge, $8; DNA identification, $16; criminal conviction fee, $35; court operations, $40; emergency medical air transportation penalty, $4; and night court, $1. When it's all said and done, that $35 ticket comes to $235.

Another report released earlier this year connects the dots: African Americans and Latinos make up less than a third of San Diego's population but represent 64.5 percent of those searched during a traffic stop.

There is still no comprehensive study to determine just how many cities pay their bills by indenturing the poor, but it is probably no coincidence that when you examine the recent rash of police killings, you find that the offenses they were initially stopped for were preposterously minor. Bland's lane change signal, DuBose's missing plate. Walter Scott had that busted taillight—which, we all later learned, is not even a crime in South Carolina. Eric Garner was selling loose cigarettes. When Darren Wilson was called to look into a robbery, the reason he initially stopped Michael Brown was for walking in the street—in Ferguson, an illegal act according to Section 44-344 of the local code. Between 2011 and 2013, 95 percent of the perpetrators of this atrocity were African American, meaning that "walking while black" is not a punch line. It is a crime.

And not just a crime, but a crime that comes with fines that are strictly enforced. In 2014, Ferguson's bottom-line-driven police force issued 16,000 arrest warrants to three-fourths of the town's total population of 21,000. Stop and think about that for a moment: In Ferguson, 75 percent of all residents had active outstanding arrest warrants. Most of the entire city was a virtual plantation of indentured revenue producers.

Back in Pagedale, St. Louis Post-Dispatch reporter Jennifer Mann recently calculated a 500 percent increase in petty fines over the last five years. "Pagedale handed out 2,255 citations for these types of offenses last year," Mann wrote, "or nearly two per household."

"Once the system is primed for maximizing revenue—starting with fines and fine enforcement," Holder said apropos Ferguson, "the city relies on the police force to serve, essentially, as a collection agency for the municipal court rather than a law enforcement entity."

In Alabama, a circuit court judge, Hub Harrington, wrote a blistering opinion three years ago asserting that the Shelby County Jail had become a kind of "debtors' prison" and that the court system had devolved into a "judicially sanctioned extortion racket." This pattern leads to a cruel paradox: One arm of the state is paying a large sum to lock up a person who can't pay a small sum owed to a different arm of the state. The result? Bigger state deficits. As the director of the Brennan Center's Justice Program put it, "Having taxpayers foot a bill of $4,000 to incarcerate a man who owes the state $745 or a woman who owes a predatory lender $425 and removing them from the job force makes sense in no reasonable world."

When the poor come to understand that they are likely to be detained and fined for comically absurd crimes, it can't be a surprise to the police that their officers are viewed with increasing distrust. In this environment, running away from a cop is not an act of suspicion; it's common sense.

Cops like to talk about "good police." They say, "That guy is good police"—a top compliment, by which they mean cool under the pressure of the street and cunning at getting people to give up the details of a crime. Good police look bad when sharing the street with crummy police. But when budgetary whims replace peacekeeping as the central motivation of law enforcement, who is more likely to write up more tickets, the good cop or the crummy one? When the mission of the entire department shifts from "protect and serve" to "punish and profit," then just what constitutes good police?
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/07/police-shootings-traffic-stops-excessive-fines
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« Reply #27 on: July 09, 2016, 10:14:39 AM »

I would think that if every  police shooting was brought to light it would be an even playing field.  But, only the black people who get shot, by white people are on the news.

As I said above, when Pastor Creach was shot dead by a cop in an unmarked car.  It was not on the National News and if it was it was a blip.  For the sake of MMom so I'm not a "liar" http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2010/aug/27/valley-officer-kills-pastor-at-nursery/

Was this a bad cop?  Yes, and got fired a few years later for misusing his patrol car.

Yes, there are bad cops, but it is not JUST because of race.   If it seems that way it is because of the Media.

White cop kills white Pastor.... not worth reporting
Black cop kills black drug dealer... not worth reporting.
Black cop kills white drug dealer... not worth reporting
White cop kills balck drug dealer father of 7.... OMG here is a big story
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« Reply #28 on: July 09, 2016, 05:47:25 PM »

The Mother Jones article is spot on, spelling out many of the problems found in policing today.

Just this week in a locality near St Louis a woman was arrested, taken to the station, released 30 minutes later, for not clelaning up and mowing her YARD.   Some city code enforcement officer had called the cop and had the lady arrested, not just given a ticket, arrested, cuffed, and taken in.  LEAVING her FIVE CHILDREN at home alone!

Oh, but it's OK, the code enforcement officer stayed in his car there until she returned.   BS


Son told me about a speeding ticket from the very small town near here.   So small there isn't any traffic lights, not even a red blinking one.   The ONLY blinking lights in the 'city' are on the school zone signs.

Anyway, he went to Court,  the Officer failed to appear.  Instead of dismissing the charge the Judge told my son that he would carry it over, schedule another hearing, or he could pay the $15 fine.  He chose the fine.  When he went to pay it he found out there was a $50 Court appearance fee added on.

I would have asked for immediate dismissal.  If the Judge didn't dismiss I would have gone to the next hearing and moved for dismissal on Constitutional grounds.   Had a Lawyer with me, then filed suit for damages, violation of civil rights, the whole bit.   I would seriously screw over the little cities budget.

Edit:   I hope it's OK to edit.  I forgot to mention, I've a long history of being an A-hole.   Especially to authority mis-used.  Everyone has a Superior, you just have to take your complaints high enough that someone will listen and DO something about it.   Knowing how to use the system to make waves is critical.   Arguing with a cop will only get you in handcuffs, it is NOT the way.
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« Reply #29 on: July 09, 2016, 06:10:52 PM »

Realize the Minneapolis victim was stopped 52 times in the last several years for minor traffic offenses, the stop that lead to the shooting was for a tail,light out.  The poor guy did every thing right. Told the cop he was armed and was licensed for a concealed weapon.  Went for his wallet and got shot 4 times, was left in the car bleeding to death while two cops handcuffed his girl friend and put her in a patrol car.  I don't think the cop committed a crime, I just think he is in the wrong line of work.  He reacted to the site of a gum he had been told about.  Then he gunned down a pillar of his community.  I don't always think the cops are wrong, but there have been 5 or 6 incidents that have crossed the line in the last year.
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« Reply #30 on: July 09, 2016, 06:44:20 PM »

I do not know what happens, but there are some other reports that the driver had the gun on his thigh, not holstered, and that nobody has been able to locate a concealed weapons permit for this individual.  Remember, the actual truth is often more complex than the initial news reports lead one to believe, and the narrative provided was from his girlfriend.

That being said, I would be extra careful if I was carrying while black.

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Anyway, he went to Court,  the Officer failed to appear.  Instead of dismissing the charge the Judge told my son that he would carry it over, schedule another hearing, or he could pay the $15 fine.  He chose the fine.  When he went to pay it he found out there was a $50 Court appearance fee added on.
The deal in MA is more interesting (and upheld by the Supreme Marsupial, er Judicial, Court).  If you want to confront your accuser in a traffic violation case, you pay $75 in advance - and no, it is not refunded if you are found not responsible for the infraction.
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« Reply #31 on: July 09, 2016, 07:11:38 PM »

The girlfriend of the guy shot posted earlier that week..... her smoking pot with the daughter in the back seat.  Are these the pillars of the community we are talking about?

We are all people and we need to get along.  I blame the Media for causing strife.... and social Media.  They censor what else is going on everyday around us.
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« Reply #32 on: July 10, 2016, 07:52:23 AM »

Here's an interesting video entitled, "What To Do When You Get Pulled Over" by a country singer named Coffey Anderson.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpcxN9JsoN8

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« Reply #33 on: July 10, 2016, 12:53:33 PM »

Wonderful Zach, thanx for sharing

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« Reply #34 on: July 10, 2016, 01:32:29 PM »

 :thumbup;  Ditto, Zach. Very good life-saving video.
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« Reply #35 on: July 10, 2016, 01:47:56 PM »

Newt Gingrich had some interesting comments about race:

Atlanta Journal Constitution‎
http://politics.blog.ajc.com/2016/07/08/newt-gingrich-white-americans-dont-understand-being-black-in-america/
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“It took me a long time, and a number of people talking to me through the years to get a sense of this. If you are a normal white American, the truth is you don’t understand being black in America and you instinctively under-estimate the level of discrimination and the level of additional risk.”

For his complete Facebook video discussion:
https://www.facebook.com/newtgingrich/videos/10154285798134197/
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« Reply #36 on: July 10, 2016, 03:04:28 PM »

That, coming from not-bleeding-heart Gingrich, says a lot.
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« Reply #37 on: July 10, 2016, 04:57:51 PM »

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« Reply #38 on: July 10, 2016, 06:37:02 PM »


I have a major problem with the video on what to do if pulled over.  He is advising you to have your license, etc., on the dash BEFORE the Cop approaches the vehicle.    This may seriously endanger your life.   Activity in the vehicle prior to the stop is cause for great paranoia by the Cops.   They are NOT thinking you are getting your license ready, they think you are either hiding something or getting a weapon.

My solution, and I have a hair over 30 speeding tickets, none in the last 30 years, and I AM Licensed Concealed Carry, and very often was.    My solution was to tell the Officer that I am a CCW and I was carrying, my wallet was in my right hip pocket and I was unable to get it while sitting.   I then asked permission to exit the vehicle, hands up and clear, then slowly making very sure he could see exactly what I was doing, withdrew my wallet.   I did the same on those few occasions I was NOT carrying.   Fortunately I was never shot, and I do not remember even having to hand over my weapon.  It never left my holster.  Over half my tickets were riding my Harley and my weapon was usually in plain sight.

I very rarely carry any longer.  Only to go to the range.
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« Reply #39 on: July 11, 2016, 01:31:35 PM »

I like Dallas Police Chief David Brown's suggestion to the protesters: "Join us"  :police:
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« Reply #40 on: July 11, 2016, 01:52:00 PM »

Interesting research article from the NY Times today.  Harvard Professor of Economics (who happens to be a black man) studied the differences in use of force to see if there is a racial bias.  The results are nuanced, but the issue of accountability (of the police) is highlighted.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/12/upshot/surprising-new-evidence-shows-bias-in-police-use-of-force-but-not-in-shootings.html?utm_source=nextdraft&utm_medium=email
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« Reply #41 on: July 11, 2016, 03:32:10 PM »

There are just more bad ass blacks then whites

Just like there are more bad ass MEN then Women

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« Reply #42 on: July 11, 2016, 06:35:24 PM »

One of the problems uncovered in the aftermath of  Ferguson , Missouri is that while the individual cop who shot Michael Brown did nothing wrong the Feruson PD used the Black Population as a revenue stream for years.  Blacks were stopped frequently for petty reasons that were ignored in the white population and the tickets written on the Blacks generated a large portion of the city budget.  It is no wonder that the Black citizens of Ferguson did not trust the PD justice department found the PD was shearing them like sheep.   
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« Reply #43 on: July 11, 2016, 06:43:18 PM »

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Fortunately I was never shot, and I do not remember even having to hand over my weapon.  It never left my holster.  Over half my tickets were riding my Harley and my weapon was usually in plain sight.
The sad truth of the matter is that white or black can mean the difference between "I'll need to see your carry permit sir" and "on the ground mofo!!!". 

I was once in a car of three white males while armed (we were coming from the shooting range), and the cop smelled gunpowder so he asked about weapons.   Although two more cop cars came in with sirens on as backup, it was handled politely and professionally and I never felt endangered - and at the end the cop told us we were exercising our rights as Americans and that was a good thing.

I somehow don't think a car with three legally armed black males would get the same polite treatment.

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« Reply #44 on: July 11, 2016, 08:42:16 PM »

I've had a gun pulled on me twice. First thought was "someone please call the police!"
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« Reply #45 on: July 11, 2016, 10:15:51 PM »

I've had a gun pulled on me twice. First thought was "someone please call the police!"
I'll bet you are white.  If you were black, you would be thinking "I hope these cops doni't shoot".
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« Reply #46 on: July 12, 2016, 03:18:47 AM »

There was another tragedy in Michigan.  This poor guy, probably didn't do nothin'.  Was being transferred from one cell to another and grabbed the big bad bailiff's gun and killed 3 people.  Then the Bad Po-Lice had to shoot him.  Damn!  Again and Again.

Why can't people just be bad and do what they want to and the damn Po-Lice leave them alone?

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« Reply #47 on: July 12, 2016, 05:56:15 AM »


Trust me, my CCW Permit was always on TOP of my drivers license, registration, etc.   One of the very last times I was pulled over I wasn't even carrying.  On my Harley I the red light on the highway turned green and I sort of rolled on the throttle a bit hard, in three gears.  The highway was going up a hill and my scooter can go UP a hill. lol  Miles later, and I mean at least four, maybe five, the siren and lights can on.  Of course I stopped, I always do even tho thare ain't a car on the road that could come anywhere near keeping up with my bike.  It AIN'T stock, not at all.   Anyway, I shut it off, stand up and look back at the approaching Officer and see not one, but TWO Officers.  ANOTHER Officer is coming fast.   This is when I turn to face the Second and tell him 'I am getting a piece of paper and a pen"  using two fingers I carefully unzip the breast pocket on my black leather jacket.  Of course it's black, and so are my leather pants. And boots, gloves.  No helmet, as there was no helmet law then.  And always my dark prescription sun glasses, LONG hair, long red beard.      So I start writting down the time, place, and the ID Numbers of ALL the cars. and put it back in my pocket.  It's obvious to the Officer what I am doing as I have to turn my head, lean, etc., to see these numbers on the cars.  As I am putting away the paper the First officer comes back with my license and hands it to me, turns and starts to walk off.  I have to ask, 'Whoa, just a minute, what is going on here?  Why have you got me standing here and all these guys called out."   He seemed indignant "You have to ask?"  Well, yea.   "I was sitting in the parking lot of the used car dealer on the corner at that light.  I saw you go up the hill.  You and I BOTH know you were doing well over the 55 speed limit but there is no why in hell this car can catch that bike and I don't have radar.  Buy the time I got anywhere near you you were idling alone at the speed limit."   I said, "oh, Take Care, Bye".    And everyone went on their way.   

6000 in third gear is somewhere around 120 - 130. I usually shift anywhere near 7 when I am seriously leaning on it.  Blower motors don't know when to stop making power, they just keep pulling until something fails.  9 is safe on mine.   It didn't take but a few seconds to go up the hill, it wasn't even a quarter mile, just a few blocks.

I won't detail the conversation I had later that morning with the Shift Sargent.   You can be sure I made complaints about the number of men called out for a simple traffic stop, AND the Rookie that UN-snaps and UN-covers his weapon because he is so frightened to be confronting a PEACEFUL CCW Dis-abiled Veteran.   I did not appreciate their stereotyping me simply by my appearance when they obviously KNEW who I was as I have had many many MANY contacts with almost every Officer in the County, INCLUDING ALL the Cities within the County.
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« Reply #48 on: July 12, 2016, 06:29:47 AM »


Just ran into this froma link on another forum.

Live leak, Armed or un-armed, can you make the decision?

Not a pretty picture.   But a real eye opener for those that don't have any idea how risky a Cops job can be.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e19_1468249664
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« Reply #49 on: July 12, 2016, 07:09:51 AM »

There is no doubt that Cops have a tough job.  I should add I come from a family with many cops in it.  I firmly believe that a vast majority of Cops are good and try to help people.  The problem is that the Cops maintain the blue wall and protect the bad apples in their job.  Cops work best in a environment based on trust and mutual respect.  The failure of the good cops to deal with the bad apples has lead to a erosion of trust in the police.  I used to believe 99 percent of the problems were caused by the bad people in this world.  Recent videos have changed my mind,  I understand it's a high stress job but what's the excuse for the South Carolina Cop who shot the Black man down as he was running away from a traffic ticket.  I also think that their will be accidents when ever guns are used and too often Cops are threatened with arrest when a accident occurs,  all mistakes are not criminal but need to be resolved as a civil matter.  This is why multi million dollar settlements are becoming common.  However it is becoming apparent that the lack of accountability for the actions of the small number of bad cops has seriously eroded the trust in the system.  Now instead of assuming the cops were right I want to see proof.

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