Mr. Donald Trump ?

[kristina]

There have been reports about Mr. Donald Trump’s thoughts and ideas and particularly his allegations and tirades against Moslems.
Last month he suggested a controversial ban on Moslems entering the USA which has sparked outrage.
He also mentioned the fact that Germany is going through massive attacks to its people by (Moslem) migrants
allowed to enter their country and he stated that Germany was a “total mess"...
... Right now German police examine over 230 videos documenting German girls being sexually attacked, molested,
mugged and in some cases raped in many different major German cities by over 1000 Moslems on a New-Year's Eve-rampage, 
after having kindly received political asylum by the German people ... 
... All these Moslem refugees are supposedly escaping the evil in their own country... but right now it looks rather
as if they have travelled all the way to Germany to deliver evil to the German people who offered them political asylum...

[Simon Dog]

Be careful what you say, lest thee be denounced as racist.

[kristina]

Be careful what you say, lest thee be denounced as racist.

I agree with you Simon! ... And that is precisely the reason why I have mentioned it !
The news bothers me immensely, because that sort of behaviour is completely illogical and makes no sense ...
... Of course, the facts are accurate and very true... but ... what on earth does it all mean?

[Simon Dog]

I'll risk being denounced.

I disagree with Trumps strange plan to register Mulsims, he has a point on immigration.   If there is a population that is statistically at greater than average risk of harboring terrorists, is the US under any obligation to apply "equal opportunity" to those seeking to immigrate to the US?   If the current PC attitudes where in place in the late 30's and early 40s, the US would allow Germans to immigrate to the US during WWII, as the majority of German people were peace loving and were not necessarily in alliance with their government.

[Vt Big Rig]

IMHO

The reason Trump has gained so much attention is he is saying what people know to be true but are afraid to say ....... either be accused of sexism, political incorrectness, bigotry, or racism. Pick one.

[Simon Dog]

Threatening to denounce someone as a racist is big business and can be very lucrative:

http://nypost.com/2015/01/04/how-sharpton-gets-paid-to-not-cry-racism-at-corporations/

[Michael Murphy]

Personally if Donald Trump is elected President I am going to move to Canada.  He is the only one who can make George W. Bush look like a great president.  He is a spoiled brat that thinks he can say anything about anybody.  What really scares me is if nominated he may destroy the Republican Party. From Lincoln to Trump,  from greatness to a Clown. I only hope that the part of the party supporting him has a moment of clarity.  If not women, Latinos, Blacks
Will all vote democratic in record numbers.

[kickingandscreaming]

I can't think of a better party to be destroyed.

[Simon Dog]

Personally if Donald Trump is elected President I am going to move to Canada. 

I remember several Hollywood celebrities announced plans to move to Canada if Algore lost the election way back when.   It turns out none of them actually delivered on the promise.

[Rerun]

I think The Donald says what people need to hear.  I'd rather see Ben Carson, but he is slipping.  But, still a good man!

Sounds like Hilary may find herself indited pretty soon.   

[kristina]

"Migrant rape fears spread across Europe: Women told not to go out at night alone after assaults carried out in Sweden, Finland, Germany, Austria and Switzerland amid warnings gangs are co-ordinating attacks
   
•   Sweden has issued warnings to women to be wary of potential attacks
•   15 young women have reported being groped by men in Kalmar, Sweden
•   Austrian police have come under fire after claims attacks were covered-up
•   Finnish police say they have information that the attacks are co-ordinated
•   Vienna's police chief advises women not to go out on the streets alone
•   Cologne police chief Wolfgang Albers relieved of his duties over handling of New Year's Eve sex attacks

Security authorities are growing increasingly concerned by the rising number of sex attacks by gangs of migrants which appear to be spreading across Europe.
Finland and Sweden today became the latest European countries to issue warnings to women to be wary of the threat of sex attacks following fresh reports of sexual assaults in the last week, while the Viennese police chief adviced women not to go outside alone in Vienna.
The warnings come as reports emerged that Austrian and German police tried to cover-up the issue over fears of reprisal attacks on asylum seekers and damage to the countries' tourist trade.
Dozens of arrests have been made today in connection with the wave of recent sex attacks across Europe. "

Published: 16:16, 8 January 2016 | Updated: 17:59, 8 January 2016/ Daily Mail on line.

[MooseMom]

Trump doesn't say what people need to hear, rather, he says what angry people WANT to hear.  There's a big difference.

People NEED to hear much, much more about his specific policies and how he plans to implement them and how he will get Congress to pay for them.  People might want to hear that he's going to build a great big wall with a beautiful door along the 1,000 mile border with Mexico, but people NEED to hear how he will pay for it and how he will choose which contractors will build it.

People WANT to hear how he will keep out all Muslims, but they NEED to hear how he plans to pay for the extra personnel to deploy at all border crossings to identify and detain and deport all those who are deemed to be Muslim.  How will he decide who is Muslim and who might very well be Christian yet "look Muslim" and wants to escape the very barbarians we want to keep out of the US?

People may WANT to hear how he will blow Russian pilots out of the sky, but they NEED to hear how he will soothe Putin and cope with the aftermath and geopolitical catastrophe that will surely follow.

People NEED to hear how he, with his planet-sized ego, will perform as a diplomat.

People WANT to hear how he is such a great businessman, but they NEED to hear how he will run the US economy AND still provide for those of us who prove to be in the loss column (Medicare recipients, those on SSDI, most red states, etc).  Does he plan to sell Mississippi because that state isn't making a profit in any form or fashion?

As for male migrants who are attacking women, arrest them and deport them.  THEY are the criminals, not the women and children who have suffered so very much at the hands of the barbarians in Syria and elsewhere.

Give me ONE SINGLE example of Donald Trump answering a direct question concerning a specific policy promise he has made where he has outlined exactly how he will implement said policy. 

Why would Hillary Clinton be indicted?  On what charge?  Is the Benghazi committee wasting more time and money?

What makes anyone say that Ben Carson is a "good man"?  Who here knows him personally?

[MooseMom]

IMHO

The reason Trump has gained so much attention is he is saying what people know to be true but are afraid to say ....... either be accused of sexism, political incorrectness, bigotry, or racism. Pick one.

What has he said that is true but others are afraid to say?  Think hard before you answer.  I am asking, "What has he said that is FACTUALLY true?" but that others are afraid to say?

[Michael Murphy]

One of the unspoken truths about Islamic terrorism in the US is that a vast majority of the Moslems do not support or condone it.  I would venture that all these plots that have been stopped were the result of Moslems reporting to the authorities. Make life miserable enough and that source of information will dry up.  Every group has a wacko fringe,  but to brand the entire group for the wackos is unAmerican. 

[Simon Dog]

Does he plan to sell Mississippi because that state isn't making a profit in any form or fashion?

Although not necessarily a bad idea, who would buy it?

[PrimeTimer]

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing"
   -Edmund Burke

"When tolerance is a one way street, it will lead to cultural suicide"
-Allen Bernard West

"The world is a dangerous place to live, not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it"
-Albert Einstein

"Let's roll"
-Todd Morgan Beamer
 

[Simon Dog]

An inconvenient truth is that while the vast majority of Muslims are not terrorists, the chances of a Muslim entering the country being, or becoming, one is greater than the chances of a non-Muslim being or becoming one.   The challenge is how can the US acknowledge the statistical reality of this without turning against its principles.   So far, the approach has been to deny the statistical reality we face.

[PrimeTimer]

An inconvenient truth is that while the vast majority of Muslims are not terrorists, the chances of a Muslim entering the country being, or becoming, one is greater than the chances of a non-Muslim being or becoming one.   The challenge is how can the US acknowledge the statistical reality of this without turning against its principles.   So far, the approach has been to deny the statistical reality we face.

Agreed. Our constitution is not a suicide pact.

[MooseMom]

An inconvenient truth is that while the vast majority of Muslims are not terrorists, the chances of a Muslim entering the country being, or becoming, one is greater than the chances of a non-Muslim being or becoming one.   The challenge is how can the US acknowledge the statistical reality of this without turning against its principles.   So far, the approach has been to deny the statistical reality we face.

Just exactly what is this so called statistical reality?  Perhaps what needs to be done is to define terrorism.  If killings occur in urban areas or are committed by gangs or delusional white people who murder school children intheir classrooms,the word terrorist is never uttered.  Armed anti government militias who occupy nature reserves are never described as terrorists, but they should be.  I am much more concerned by armed americans who decide to shoot random people and go on shooting sprees because they have had a bad day.

Are white Americans never terrorists?  Or is that yet another inconvenient truth?

[kickingandscreaming]

Sadly, these days if your skin is white, you're a Patriot.  It it's darker, you're a Terrorist.

[Zach]

An inconvenient truth is that while the vast majority of Muslims are not terrorists, the chances of a Muslim entering the country being, or becoming, one is greater than the chances of a non-Muslim being or becoming one.   The challenge is how can the US acknowledge the statistical reality of this without turning against its principles.   So far, the approach has been to deny the statistical reality we face.

And there is the inconvenient truth and statistical reality that a white, christian anti-government militia member will become a terrorist, too.

Remember April 19, 1995:  A Ryder truck packed with nearly 5,000 pounds of explosives was detonated in front of the Murrah Federal Building in downtown Oklahoma City, killing 168 people, among them 19 children—most of whom were in the building’s daycare center. The youngest victim was 4 months old.  More than 680 others of all ages were injured.

[Michael Murphy]

If you examine history you. Will find many examples of home grown terrorism in our  past . Most famously is the KKK would made it fashionable to beat, kill, maim those they opposed, any one not like them, If you need a example during the 1920s the KKK decided to organize South Bend, Indiana.  The home of Notre Dame the Papist base in America.  The results were not that common back then.  The students beat the living hell out of the KKK members who arrived to put them in their place.  The second worse terrorist attack has already been mentioned here it was caused by aryan nation types in Oklahoma City .

[Simon Dog]

Are white Americans never terrorists?  Or is that yet another inconvenient truth?

They most certainly are, but I would venture to say that a smaller percentage of Americans (of all colors) become terrorists that Muslim immigrants.  Remember, the numerator on the American side of the equation is 350 million people; it's probably in the few million (at most, just guessing) for Muslim immigrants.

I would guess that the ratio is smaller for Americans even when you factor in the militia nutjobs.

Statistics are established on populations as a whole.   Citing a counter example makes as much statistical sense as "Aunt Millie smoked a pack a day and lived to 95, so your claims that statistics showing that smoking shortens life are not accurate".

Are you saying that it is not accurate to say that the chances of a Muslim immigrant being a terrorist are greater than the chances of a natural born American of the same age and sex being a terrorist is inaccurate?   The answer is a simple "yes" or "no" - the response is not "terrorists come in all colors and religions" (which, while true, is not relevant to the statistical question at hand).

[PrimeTimer]

There is also Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn. There is also the terrorists shown in Geert Wilders short youtube film "Fitna".

[Rerun]

Kristina I understand your warning, but unfortunately in the United States we just can't seem to have the common sense to realize that people could have evil agendas and attach it to a group of people of color or religion that keep proving it.  We call it racism if that is even put together.   

We have 2 hard working tax paying ranchers in prison because a controlled burn got on some federal land yet we are letting the Getmo prisoners go free to join up with the brotherhood again.