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« on: March 17, 2014, 10:06:49 AM »

Everywhere I go, with friends, at dialysis, in shops theories abound to what the hell has happened to this plane.
I'm curious to know what others think?
Is it stashed somewhere in Afghanistan under camo nets and the passengers held to ransom or did it go into the sea without any trace,  no flotsam or jetsam or oil slicks ...
What do you think?
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« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2014, 11:17:45 AM »

I think it was hijacked and landed somewhere. How could it disappear like that otherwise. I dont know much about this stuff, and I am sure some IHD ers will jump in here, but those 2 Iranians with the stolen passports make me verrrry nervous.
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« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2014, 11:22:04 AM »

Over the weekend, my theory was hijackers that entered some kind of poison into the food or beverage, killing the passengers.  Then they took over control of the plane, shut off the communication systems and either deliberately or through error crashed the plane.

However, now that information has come out that there was a flight simulator found in the pilot's home, I'm not so sure.  I am thinking suicide. 

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« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2014, 11:44:43 AM »

 I think it crashed in the Indian sea.
Look how they never found JFK plane .
I am very intrigued by this story. I agree with
The possibility of suicide since they did find
That stimulator .
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« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2014, 12:00:12 PM »

My dialysis nurse today, as she was taking me off, has a theory that it is possible to halt the air/oxygen supply to the plane and this would make all the passengers very faint and then unconscious... thus disabling them quickly and quietly and would explain the lack of mobile phone calls saying Omigod we're going the wrong way...
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« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2014, 11:56:47 PM »

My husband said taking the plane to 45,000 would likely have killed the passengers, but now that reading is being questioned. The pilots have more sophisticated oxygen masks.
When people are missing they can track their cell phone location. It's odd that no one mentions that.
kimmie - they found John F. Kennedy, Jr.'s plane - on July 17th, the Kennedy's reported to the Cape Cod Coast Guard that the plane had not arrived. At 4 a.m. the Coast Guard began a search and rescue operation to find the missing plane. At 11:30 p.m. on July 20th, the fuselage of Kennedy's plane was finally located on the ocean floor by the salvage ship USNS Grasp (T-ARS-51). On the afternoon of July 21st, Kennedy's body was located on the ocean floor by Navy divers and were taken to the county medical examiner's office by motorcade. And that was a tiny plane. But they new his path (although he deviated from the typical route.)
I think someone stole it. I am afraid the fate of the passengers is not going to be a good outcome. I worry what the plane will be used for.


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« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2014, 08:32:30 AM »

Me too if it was just the plane they wanted ... for what purpose? And what target?
Surely the oxygen masks would have automatically dropped down as plane went higher?
The fact that no-one made a mobile phone call either is odd, unless they took everyone's phones off them at the start.

Must be very difficult for the relatives and why are China being so quiet about it?
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« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2014, 09:23:52 AM »

The oxygen masks would have indeed dropped down if the plane went too high, but there's only enough oxygen for about 15 minutes.

Cell phones do not work in the middle of the ocean because there are no cell towers.  Cell phones also will not work at very high altitudes for the same reason.  So there is no way to track a phone's location for those reasons. 

If the plane has indeed been hijacked for use at a later time by some nefarious organization, then the question is where can such a big plane be safely landed?  You will need a level runway that is about a mile long.  There is not a lot of territory between KL and, say, any area that would be within fuel range and that would fit the requirements of landing a 777.  For those places that DO meet those requirements, well, you're looking at setting down a plane that the whole world is looking for that has an awful lot of people inside of it.  How can that be kept secret?  Even during the raid on OBL's compound, there was someone awake who was tweeting about it!  So, you're looking at finding a flat, remote, unpopulated location, and I would imagine that all of those places are under pretty close scrutiny.

I am wondering why (or if) there are not surveillance drones blanketing the "northern arc". 

I'm also wonder why, if this is an act carried out by some terrorist group, would they risk pissing off the Chinese?  Most of the passengers were Chinese, and that government has not really been drawn into the whole anti-jihadist effort, so why involve their citizens?

One more thing; the plane was flying during darkness, so I'd imagine that most passengers were asleep.  As for those who were not, I'm not sure they'd be aware for quite some time that the plane had gone off course.  it was probably planned that way.

It's hard to believe that after all this time, there is still NOTHING, NOTHING that could count as "evidence".  Amazing.
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« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2014, 10:36:53 AM »

This analysis from a pilot makes good sense. I am not one to subscribe to conspiracies and nefarious schemes when something as simple as an on-board fire could explain all the known facts.

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Sadly, I think all aboard perished.

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« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2014, 12:26:20 PM »

My theory is that we still have not discovered every place on earth ... and that there are still unknown places and unknown areas... unbeknown to us...
... and unbeknown to civilisation... and perhaps  - if we are lucky - in years to come ... we may be lucky enough to find out the stunning truth ...
...about the recently missing Malaysian aeroplane...?

....The story of the recently missing Malaysian plane reminded me of a film and I have finally succeeded in remembering the name of the film:
 
It is Frank Capra's 1937 film called: "Lost Horizon".

The story of this 1937 film "Lost Horizon" is easily remembered by anyone who has ever seen it (many years ago) because the plot is quite disturbing
and certainly not easily forgotten by anyone who has ever seen it :
An airplane is being kidnapped "on request" by a civilisation who "fancies" a few "new people" in its undisturbed civilisation ...
...all passengers of this to be kidnapped airplane have been already "hand selected" - on request - to be flown into this hitherto unknown civilisation
and they land in this airplane in an unknown area (unknown to the civilized world) -  where people never age...
...an area which was discovered only a few hundred years ago by one hermit who is still alive and healthy after at least two centuries -
... and this hermit is still busily building and overseeing his created civilisation in this  - to the civilised world - unknown area where no living person has ever walked before...
... an area where people never seem to age... where people are happily alive after at least two centuries...
... where youth never ages... where people are always young and healthy...
... where sickness does not exist because the air and the food are much too healthy. so that no one living in this particular environment could ever become sick ... or old...
... there are no quarrels, there are no arguments, people are content, they don't age and they don't have any "ordinary" surviving fears... and they don't suffer any stress...
...because everything is supplied for and no one has to bother about anything... a supposed paradise on earth...
... very strange for any new arrivals to adapt to ... especially as they did not arrive there by their own free will... because they were kidnapped in this airplane... on request...

I remember seeing Frank Capra's 1937 "Lost Horizon" many years ago and the plot of the film somehow disturbed me enough, that I could never forget it...

... That is the reason why the mystery of this Malaysian plane which recently went missing, reminds me so much of this particular 1937 Frank Capra film "Lost Horizon" ...

... And I really wonder if anyone else - who by chance has seen the film "Lost Horizon" as I did ... many years ago - remembers the plot  as well as I do  ... ?

... Do you also remember how much the 1937 film "Lost Horizon" reminds any watcher of the recently missing Malaysian airplane...?

... If there is anyone remembering seeing the 1937  film "Lost Horizon"...  -   Could you please let me know what you think of it...?

... Do you also see a very disturbing context of the 1937 film "Lost Horizon" with the recently kidnapped (?) Malaysian aeroplane?

... Please let me know... 

 ... Many thanks from Kristina...
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« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2014, 12:50:04 AM »

Sounds like they may have spotted plane wreckage in Very Southern Indian ocean towards New Zealand ... that's way way off the supposed flight path or the way the Malaysian authorites said it was picked up flying in opposite direction. That makes this sad discovery even odder. How did it get that far and why???
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« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2014, 05:22:45 PM »

Aussie planes and ships on the way!
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« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2014, 01:55:24 AM »

Yay.... it's a bloody great area to search though.
I hope we get a conclusion to this soon (poor relatives probably don't know what to think)
And I would like to know it wasn't the pilot .... that's a bit worrying :secret;
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« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2014, 11:20:25 AM »

I can't believe over three weeks on, truthfully we are no nearer any answers..
THEY say it crashed into the sea, but no debris found that can be identified... THEY say it is in The Pacific Ocean, thousands of miles off course... but is it really?
All those search and rescue planes and ships and satellites yet nothing concrete.

It makes even less sense now than it did initially...
I feel for the relatives who must not know who or what to believe any more. Someone,somewhere knows more than we are being told...
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Back to HD 2nd transplant Dec 10 failed after 11 months
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Back on HD (not easy to do that third time around)
Fighting hard (two years on) to do home HD ... watch this space!
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« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2014, 11:58:13 AM »

I read an article in today's Chicago Tribune that some dubious law firm here in town is working on a lawsuit against Boeing and Malaysia Airlines on behalf of the families but the families haven't even reached out to them...they are alleging catastrophic engine failure.  Which is interesting because they have no physical evidence.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-malaysian-flight-crash-lawyers-met-20140330,0,393240.story
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« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2014, 10:48:24 PM »

In the UK they are stating the plane flew until it ran out of fuel.... but again, no proof.And every  time they change the search area, another theory is dashed...
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« Reply #16 on: April 03, 2014, 05:08:20 AM »

http://www.theage.com.au/world/police-investigate-possible-poisoning-of-food-on-missing-plane-20140403-zqq33.html

Now they really are getting fanciful ... :urcrazy;
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« Reply #17 on: April 03, 2014, 06:51:30 AM »

My first thought went to poison of food or beverage (see my post from March 17), but then again, I read a lot of Stephen King books in my impressionable youth.  I would agree though that at this point, they have to leave no stone unturned.

http://www.theage.com.au/world/police-investigate-possible-poisoning-of-food-on-missing-plane-20140403-zqq33.html

Now they really are getting fanciful ... :urcrazy;
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« Reply #18 on: April 03, 2014, 09:51:14 AM »

If it didn't go into the sea, where is it??? Is it really stashed somewhere? And the fate of the passengers and crew?
I just wonder how obscure the real answer is?
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Back on HD (not easy to do that third time around)
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Oh and I am am getting married 1/08/15 to my wonderful partner Drew!!!
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