Response to Bill Peckham

[noahvale]

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[cariad]

Wow, Cariad, that is over the top. But that is your way.

Not much to state to Bill since Jeanne Kirkpatricks comments speak all for by herself quite well. Bill didn't capture her sentiments well at all, but all are free to compare Bill's statements to hers and draw their own conclusions.

BTW, my wife is about the most independent women I have ever known and that is after my very independent mother is considered. Wow, over the top, but have fun insulting instead of debating. I am sure that both would consider your veiled accusations quite insulting since both are a significant part of my life. That kind of lines up with all the false allegations of racism against me in times past. Too funny Cariad, but I won't show it to my wife since the insult is actually directed at her when you get right down to it. Maybe you could insult my mother as well while you are at it.

P.S. why do you assume you were not part of getting that thread locked, Hmmmm?

In any case, keep it up and this thread will be locked soon as well I suspect.

If you ever wish to debate the issues, let me know Cariad.

Don't really have the time for this anymore, let alone the patience. You repeatedly mentioned Freud in connection with me, and Freud was a fairly notorious sexist. I found your suggestion that Freud has anything valid to say about me creepy and insulting in the extreme. You know perfectly well that I never said anything one way or the other about your wife, but trust you to try to wring victim status out of my reply. Yes, I know that anyone who has both a wife and mother cannot possibly be sexist! Just as "Some of my best friends are Latino/black/homosexual/female/Jewish/Catholic/elderly/disabled/poor/etc." always trumps any suggestion that people are not examining their own prejudices.

Why do you always manage to convince yourself that you know my thoughts? I never said I didn't think I had anything to do with the thread being locked. I have no doubt that you went whinging to a moderator about something I wrote, or more likely everything I wrote, because that's what you do when people have the gall to not follow your orders and change their views.

I personally don't mind people disagreeing with me, in fact I love hearing alternative viewpoints, but you repeatedly take it to the point of insults and demands that I fall into line with your beliefs or keep quiet. There is no chance for debate with such an individual. Bill gave a clear and intelligent explanation, but you don't actually want to talk about that, which rather undermines your claim that you just want to debate. I asked for a response to what Bill wrote, which is one of the ways people get a conversation going, but as I suspected would happen, you gave a non-answer, so fine. You still will not admit that you were both wrong and insulting to Aleta, but as she let it go ages ago, so shall I.

I received a nice email from another member (that I haven't had time to respond to yet, sorry!) asking me when I will learn to stop beating my head against a wall in the so-called "debate" threads. Girl, if you are actually reading this, I promise you I do know better!   So, I'm saying sod this for a game of soldiers and getting on with life.

[Hemodoc]

Cariad,

This is pretty much a dead thread that you now for some reason you want to reopen after several days with no provocation. Go figure, that is one of your many accusations you made against me in another post. That is what I am talking about with projection and freud. Where are you getting this "sexist" thing at all? Go figure, in any case, Freud is still at work, projection is a real defense mechanism that you continue to demonstrate over and over again. Here is a prime example. You stated I made a sexist comment for invoking Freud and projection. Not sure why that is sexist. But look at the comment you made above:

It must be truly frustrating to you to have a woman on here who isn't afraid to speak up for herself, doesn't look to you for permission to read and enjoy books or discuss topics, and just generally doesn't know her place.

So that is indeed a sexist comment you made against me. I have not done the same to you. That is projection Cariad. Your character trait you project on others.

Psychological projection was conceptualized by Sigmund Freud in the 1890s as a defense mechanism in which a person unconsciously rejects his or her own unacceptable attributes by ascribing them to objects or persons in the outside world.[1] For example, a person who is rude may accuse other people of being rude.

Although rooted in early developmental stages,[2] and classed by Vaillant as an immature defence,[3] the projection of one's negative qualities onto others on a small scale is nevertheless a common process in everyday life.[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

I can find several examples of you doing this over and over again. Two on this post alone. That is exactly what I was stating about Freud. Go figure, you projected the Freud statement into some sort of sexist comment when in fact you simply demonstrated once again exactly what I had been talking about. Too funny.

Bill made his comments and I made mine. Out of respect of the relationship we once had, I left it at that and will let the comments speak for themselves. If you wish to throw in your own 2 cents worth on the issue, go for it.

Lastly, WHENNNNN are you going to actually debate any of the topics in this section instead of engaging in personal attacks against me over and over and over again.

So, debate Cariad if you state you love to do that and leave your incendiary personal attacks out of it if you can. You have added nothing to some of the actual comments related to the topic at hand. If you ever wish to debate the issues let me know, but this is pure nonsense.