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« on: March 04, 2007, 03:34:33 PM »

so my friends i have a question ....like most days .....so i have been taking sensipar 30 mg a day for two weeks and i have to say its ripping my stomach apart....i dont want to get to much into it except i am always running to the bathroom....does anyone else have this problem and is there any other pills i can take


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« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2007, 03:38:33 PM »

John here is another thread that talks about sensipar. Hope this helps

http://ihatedialysis.com/forum/index.php?topic=891.msg8526#msg8526

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« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2007, 05:00:03 PM »

Hey john,

Ive been taking sensipar for 8 months, and have had really bad nausea that has kept mt up for hours!! The only advice i can give you is try to eat more when you take it, so you line your stomach, and i usually take it then go straight to bed.

what time of day do you take it?
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« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2007, 07:45:29 PM »

i take it in the am around 10 am
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« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2007, 07:48:41 PM »

ohhh.. that is why... i thought you take the tablet... can you swap to tablets ?i know they are not as harsh as the injection on the stomach
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« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2007, 09:04:55 PM »

my sensipar bottle is lables "to be taken with food". try taking it with breakfast or lunch. i take twice as much as you do and don't have any problems, although i do realize everyone reacts differently.
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« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2007, 10:12:31 PM »

It's a phospate binder and designed to be taken with food.. if you're not taking it with food not only are you asking for trouble, but also it won't be doing its job properly if you're not ingesting food (with phospate) in it for it to bind to..

I hope you can solve the problem as it sounds quite distressing!
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« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2007, 10:32:54 PM »

It's a phospate binder and designed to be taken with food.. if you're not taking it with food not only are you asking for trouble, but also it won't be doing its job properly if you're not ingesting food (with phospate) in it for it to bind to..

I hope you can solve the problem as it sounds quite distressing!

Actually, Sensipar is not a phosphate binder.  It's used to control PTH and also high blood calcium.
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« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2007, 11:14:11 PM »

You guys are scaring me, I'm starting Sensipar right away here. :-\
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« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2007, 11:18:56 PM »

My PTH was up the very first time they checked it, brenda (1250).  The doc didn't think it was that unusual.  I don't have any side effects from the 60 mg I'm on.

My doc said it was a form of synthetic vitamin D?  I'm not sure, but I think that's what he said. ..
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« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2007, 01:16:51 AM »

ohhh.. that is why... i thought you take the tablet... can you swap to tablets ?i know they are not as harsh as the injection on the stomach

oh know you read it wrong i ment to say morning ...but i will try to take it with dinner since that is my bigest meal....thanks for all the help guys.... :thx; :thx; :thx; :thx; :clap; :clap; :clap; :clap; :beer1; :beer1; :beer1; :beer1;
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« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2007, 05:14:36 AM »

lol sorry about the confusion. Yes try taking it in the evening.

Hope it helps. Good luck.

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« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2007, 07:42:23 AM »

I was told to take it with my dinner because that is the biggest meal of the day that I usually eat.
If I feel I still did not eat enough, I have a few crackers also and have had no problem with nausea.
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« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2007, 08:13:25 AM »

Zach, my angel nurse told me that yes, it is used when you have high calcium (me) and high PTH (getting there)... but she also told me that it is a phosphate binder, much like Caltrate, but without the calcium (hence its use when you have a high calcium level)...

I'm happy to be corrected but that was my understanding.. of course if it ISN'T a phosphate binder that would explain why they are keeping me on alutabs also.

I am seeing the doc later today so will grill him! :)
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« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2007, 09:52:57 AM »

You guys are scaring me, I'm starting Sensipar right away here. :-\

Hey don't be scared!  I've been taking 90 mg for more than a month now and I have no side effects from it.  I take it wih a full meal (dinnertime).  I was told you have to take it with food it absorbs better that way.

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« Reply #15 on: March 05, 2007, 10:20:00 AM »

I think Zach is correct as it is my understanding that it is not a phosphate binder as well.  I would try taking it at bedtime with a snack.
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« Reply #16 on: March 05, 2007, 11:16:00 AM »

I think Zach is correct as it is my understanding that it is not a phosphate binder as well.  I would try taking it at bedtime with a snack.

That's right it is not a binder but it acts on the Parathyroid gland in the body.  The PTH can excrete too much hormone and the taking of Sensipar controls it. 

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« Reply #17 on: March 05, 2007, 02:55:30 PM »

Sorry everyone I am a goof!

I woke up in the middle of the night and told myself that I was thinking of Renegel and not Sensipar! Damn all these medications.

My apologise and ignore everything I've written in this thread (except this!).

Yes, Zach is right!! :D
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« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2007, 09:03:06 PM »

Been taking Sensipar 30 mg for 2 weeks now. I hope this gets better. I took everybody's advise and take it with my largest meal of the day. I am not nauseated so much but my stomach hurts and my headaches.
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« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2007, 05:31:21 PM »

OK, i dont get it,  i was told to take 2 sensipar's daily, well, i ran out and i have not taken it for a month, now my PTH is 117, WTF?  So should i be taking it or just forget about it?  ???
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« Reply #20 on: April 15, 2007, 08:30:56 PM »

OK, i dont get it,  i was told to take 2 sensipar's daily, well, i ran out and i have not taken it for a month, now my PTH is 117, WTF?  So should i be taking it or just forget about it?  ???

PTH N-Intact goal is 150-300 pg/ml
http://www.kidney.org/professionals/kdoqi/guidelines_bone/Guide8B.htm


Your PTH, using the above testing method, may now be too low.  You need to discuss this with your Nephrologist.  A low PTH for people on dialysis can lead to Adynamic Bone Disease:

http://www.kidney.org/professionals/kdoqi/guidelines_bone/Guide13C.htm
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« Reply #21 on: April 15, 2007, 09:14:06 PM »

Tsk, aww man, just another thing i have to worry about, thanks Zach :P  lol, no literally thank you, now i can talk to my neph and tell her something as if i knew what i was talking about.  And i thought that was a good thing (low PTH) damn, was i wrong  :P
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« Reply #22 on: April 16, 2007, 12:12:54 AM »



Ok.. is Sensipar an active Vitamin D the same as Calcitriol?   ???  I am on Calcitriol. I am trying to keep up, just a little confused.   ???  :P
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« Reply #23 on: April 16, 2007, 05:37:38 AM »

Ok.. is Sensipar an active Vitamin D the same as Calcitriol?

No.  It's something brand new.  It works in different ways.

Sensipar is an agent that increases the sensitivity of the parathyroid gland to calcium in the body. This causes a decrease in levels of parathyroid hormone (PTH), calcium, and phosphorous in the body.

Check out the video for more information:
http://www.sensipar.com/professional/treating_secondary_hpt/mechanism_action.jsp

U.S. Goals:
Calcium         8.4-9.5 mg/dL   =   2.10-2.37 mmol/L
Phosphorus    3.5-5.5 mg/dL   =   1.13-1.78 mmol/L

Ca x P < 55 mg/dL  = <4.44 mmol/L
iPTH < 300pg/mL   = <31.8 pmol/L
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Dialysate flow (Qd)=600;  Blood pump speed(Qb)=315
Fresenius Optiflux-180 filter--without reuse
Fresenius 2008T dialysis machine
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« Reply #24 on: April 16, 2007, 07:29:39 AM »

i have been on sensipar for nearly a year, and it has worked brilliantly on lowerring my phosphate and my PTH. At one stage my PTH went way to low and my doctor said it was very dangerous and just as bad as being too high!! (like Zach said) so i am now taking 30mg of sensipar every 2nd day and my PTH is perfect. They recommend that a dialysis patient "ideal" pth is slightly higher the one of a healthy person. In Australia its suppose to be between 3- 9 my doctor said i should keep it at 15 - 30.
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