I Hate Dialysis Message Board
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
November 24, 2024, 01:29:11 AM

Login with username, password and session length
Search:     Advanced search
532606 Posts in 33561 Topics by 12678 Members
Latest Member: astrobridge
* Home Help Search Login Register
+  I Hate Dialysis Message Board
|-+  Dialysis Discussion
| |-+  Dialysis: News Articles
| | |-+  Dialysis at night getting popular
0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic. « previous next »
Pages: [1] Go Down Print
Author Topic: Dialysis at night getting popular  (Read 3852 times)
okarol
Administrator
Member for Life
*****
Offline Offline

Gender: Female
Posts: 100933


Photo is Jenna - after Disneyland - 1988

WWW
« on: February 19, 2007, 03:49:21 PM »

Dialysis at night getting popular

ELENA LESLEY
St. Petersburg Times

Published February 19, 2007

After Joe Bockskopf's kidneys failed, regular dialysis sapped his energy and wasted his time.

Three days of each week, he sat for hours in dialysis centers, as machines sucked the toxins out of his blood.

Then, he'd go home to sleep. He often felt awful.

Sympathetic to the drawbacks of dialysis during the day, his doctor offered him an alternative: nocturnal dialysis.

The suggestion changed Bockskopf's life.

"Before nocturnal, it took everything I had just to drive home to sleep," he said. "Then the next day I could only do small things."

Now he's back to fishing and riding his motorcycle.

While nocturnal dialysis is prevalent in much of Europe, it has only slowly caught on in the United States. Several clinics in the Tampa Bay area, including St. Petersburg, already offer the programs and a new clinic is scheduled to open in Tampa this year.

Dr. Charles Prentice, medical director of the clinic in Citrus County where Bockskopf gets his treatment, applauds the spread of nocturnal programs in the region.

"There's nothing a daytime patient gets that a nocturnal patient doesn't get better," he said.

* * *

When a person's kidneys stop functioning, they have to manage the problem for the rest of their life. Kidney transplants, if available, generally last no more than seven years.

Many people turn to dialysis.

The dialysis equipment "is like a large washing machine for the blood," Prentice said.

But it's not as good as an actual kidney. While healthy kidneys function all the time, the "artificial kidney" created by dialysis runs only when patients are hooked to the machine.

For most people, that's three times a week for about four hours each session.

But when patients do dialysis at night, "we can run the blood through the pump at a slower speed," said Bridget Didsbury, Inverness clinic manager. "They get about eight hours on the machine, which is closer to a real kidney."

While patients get antsy having to sit for four hours worth of dialysis during the day, they can sleep through the eight hours at night, especially when they're in a clinic remodeled for the purpose.

Patients in the St. Petersburg office operated by Fresenius Medical Care North America, which also runs the one in Inverness, can drift off in a dimly-lit room full of oversized recliners. If they have trouble sleeping, they can browse the Internet or enjoy a wide selection of cable TV channels.

"Except for ESPN," joked Herbert Davis, 63, preparing for dialysis on a recent Friday evening. "They need to work on that."

Davis, of Gulfport, started on St. Petersburg's nocturnal program a couple months ago. He wanted to free up his days to find part-time work but has discovered the nocturnal dialysis also has health benefits.

"I feel better, much better," he said.

For those who have read up on nocturnal dialysis, that's not a surprise. Studies, mostly out of Europe, show that nocturnal dialysis can lower blood pressure, loosen dietary restrictions and even allow patients to take fewer medications.

Doctors in this field "always dream of something like this," St. Petersburg clinic medical director Dr. Gerald Rizzo said of getting to oversee his own nocturnal program.

* * *

Though many doctors believe it leads to healthier patients, and even longer lives, Medicare's flat reimbursement rates keep the procedure from being financially viable for most clinics.

Medicare "doesn't pay an extra penny for dialyzing twice as long," said Bob Loeper, regional vice president for Fresenius.

That makes nocturnal dialysis a risky undertaking for many clinics. Plus, there's no guarantee that, if you offer the service, people will be willing to sleep away from home.

"Certain people will never spend the night," Rizzo said. "Others want to live for the moment."

For interested patients, Fresenius has developed a model that fosters slow nocturnal growth. If a clinic has a large enough pool of patients interested in, and stable enough for, nocturnal dialysis, the company will invest the start-up costs.

Expenses and revenue eventually balance out, Loeper said. Though about 85 percent of dialysis patients are on Medicare, companies are also using their facilities for more hours and can treat more patients.

"Reimbursement is a negative incentive, but a positive incentive is using the clinic at night," Loeper said. "It's like having the night shift."

Rizzo sees the company's investment in nocturnal programs as the first step toward the ideal dialysis setup: at-home nocturnal.

The company already offers this service in some parts of the Northeast. Spouses or other people who live with patients are trained to do the dialysis themselves, and then homes are watched by a central monitoring system.

But whether at home or in-center, health care workers say they hope nocturnal dialysis continues to become an option for greater numbers of patients.

Those who have tried it, swear by it.

"Their labs improve, their general sense of wellbeing improves," Didsbury said. "We probably would have a riot if they had to go back to days."

Elena Lesley can be reached at elesley@sptimes.com.

Logged


Admin for IHateDialysis 2008 - 2014, retired.
Jenna is our daughter, bad bladder damaged her kidneys.
Was on in-center hemodialysis 2003-2007.
7 yr transplant lost due to rejection.
She did PD Sept. 2013 - July 2017
Found a swap living donor using social media, friends, family.
New kidney in a paired donation swap July 26, 2017.
Her story ---> https://www.facebook.com/WantedKidneyDonor
Please watch her video: http://youtu.be/D9ZuVJ_s80Y
Living Donors Rock! http://www.livingdonorsonline.org -
News video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-7KvgQDWpU
billoggblog
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 104


You Dialyse to Live....You Don't live to Dialyse!

« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2007, 09:04:41 AM »

When I first started Hemo. I would drive home at about 1am.  One time, when I was driving home, I drove Over, not round a roundabout!  this really freaked me out, at that time of night, it could easily have been a drunk person walking home!!

It was decided that I would try Nocturnal, in clinic hemo. for me, this was a step forward, I started feeling much better during the day, I would go in at about 10.30pm, do my 5hrs. disconnect and back to sleep, tea and toast at 7.30, quick shower and away!
On a recent visit to the renal unit in Edinburgh, I saw their night time area, each patient had their own room (glass front for supervision) a TV, and, also they controlled the lights in the room.

Unfortunately, in Aberdeen the renal unit is so busy, that new patients are only offered a night time spot.  This is fine for young and active people, but some older people find this very hard to cop with, we have an old lady in the unit, who said, "I don't like dialysis, but it's the only time I get out of the house to meet people" a night time spot for her would be an absolute nightmare >:(

Logged

Yesterday is History..........Tomorrow is Mystery..........
Today is a Gift...That's why they call it Present.
brenda
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Gender: Female
Posts: 398


« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2007, 10:06:17 PM »

I got a letter last Friday telling me I would be able to do my nocturnal training in May. I am looking very forward to it. What will I do with all those evenings? And just the opportunity to feel better.
Logged

Life is what happens while your making other plans.
Wattle
Elite Member
*****
Offline Offline

Gender: Female
Posts: 2306


« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2007, 10:14:23 PM »


 It was decided that I would try Nocturnal, in clinic hemo. for me, this was a step forward, I started feeling much better during the day, I would go in at about 10.30pm, do my 5hrs. disconnect and back to sleep, tea and toast at 7.30, quick shower and away!
On a recent visit to the renal unit in Edinburgh, I saw their night time area, each patient had their own room (glass front for supervision) a TV, and, also they controlled the lights in the room.

Unfortunately, in Aberdeen the renal unit is so busy, that new patients are only offered a night time spot.  This is fine for young and active people, but some older people find this very hard to cop with, we have an old lady in the unit, who said, "I don't like dialysis, but it's the only time I get out of the house to meet people" a night time spot for her would be an absolute nightmare >:(

For all the Aussie Hemo patients out there..... Do we have Nocturnal In-Clinic Hemo?  :urcrazy;





EDITED: Fixed Quote - Rerun, Moderator
« Last Edit: February 26, 2007, 10:23:16 PM by Rerun » Logged

PKD
June 2005 Commenced PD Dialysis
July 13th 2009 Cadaveric 5/6 Antigen Match Transplant from my Special Angel
Rerun
Member for Life
******
Offline Offline

Gender: Female
Posts: 12242


Going through life tied to a chair!

« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2007, 10:24:06 PM »

As soon as I move to Spokane I'll be doing In-Center Nocturnal, if my insurance will go for it.
Logged

Wattle
Elite Member
*****
Offline Offline

Gender: Female
Posts: 2306


« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2007, 10:35:57 PM »

As soon as I move to Spokane I'll be doing In-Center Nocturnal, if my insurance will go for it.


How many nights would you do in-clinic?
Logged

PKD
June 2005 Commenced PD Dialysis
July 13th 2009 Cadaveric 5/6 Antigen Match Transplant from my Special Angel
Bajanne
Member for Life
******
Offline Offline

Gender: Female
Posts: 5337


Goofynina and Epoman - Gone But Not Forgotten

WWW
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2007, 11:53:08 PM »

I just love the sound of nocturnal haemo.  I spoke with some of our nurses about it, and I don't think they like the idea.  One told me yesterday that if it was started, she would leave the unit and go back to ordinary nursing, even if it mean night shifts!  Couldn't figure that  one out!
Logged

"To be found in Him, not having a righteousness of my own ...but that which is based on faith"



I LOVE  my IHD family! :grouphug;
billoggblog
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Gender: Male
Posts: 104


You Dialyse to Live....You Don't live to Dialyse!

« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2007, 07:34:43 AM »

I just love the sound of nocturnal haemo.  I spoke with some of our nurses about it, and I don't think they like the idea.  One told me yesterday that if it was started, she would leave the unit and go back to ordinary nursing, even if it mean night shifts!  Couldn't figure that  one out!

My unit started nocturnal dialysis out of necessity, the unit was unable to cope with amount of new patients.  As for the nurses, if they ask all the nurses in the unit, they may find that a few would be willing to change to night-time.  In my unit the night-time staff do not rotate with the day-time staff. Also the night staff seem to stay longer with the unit (I guess they get less hassle than day-time staff).
You can always recognize a renal night-time nurse, they are always Big round the rear, they sit and eat sweets most of the night!!
Logged

Yesterday is History..........Tomorrow is Mystery..........
Today is a Gift...That's why they call it Present.
Pages: [1] Go Up Print 
« previous next »
 

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP SMF 2.0.17 | SMF © 2019, Simple Machines | Terms and Policies Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!