Traditional America

[Hemodoc]

Thanks Zach.  That is what I thought.  Fox had it right.

Cape Cod?  My father was born in 1919 and had to ride his horse to a one room school house 8 miles in 5 feet of snow or at least that is what he told us as we ran to the bus in rural Washington State.  I'll take the 60's.

When he was a boy he helped his father with a team of horses plant and harvest 180 acres of wheat in the rolling hills of the Palouse.  Sunrise to Sunset.... they also had a dairy.

We are all spoiled today and kids talk worse than ever before "F this and F that"  It is horrible .... and they Vote!

I learned to type on a manual typewriter and now kids just talk to their IPad.

That said we still need a balanced budget.  Obama says to tax the rich and Boehoner (sp) says to close loop holes of the special interest groups.  I say compromise and do both.

Actually, I grew up in Alaska for the first 10 years then in Maine for the next 8. We drove up and down the AlCan highway at least three times in those ten years.

I didn't spend much time on Cape Cod until I was 19 but we did get there from time to time. My great grandfather was a meat cutter with his own shop where my aunt ended up living across the street.  The first time I saw Cape Cod was when I was three. My great grandfather was a meat cutter with his own shop where my aunt ended up living across the street from my grandmother's house. The bay was less than a 1/4 mile from the house and you could see the ocean from our second floor.

i agree, the 60's in many ways were America's greatest days. The craziness of the Viet Nam war didn't reach us in Alaska and it wasn't until we moved to the lower 48 that those issues intruded. You could buy a McDonalds' burger for 10 cents. Gas was only 35 cents a gallon when I first started driving. In my senior year of high school, I bought a 1968 GTO convertible.  My brother had a 1968 Dodge Super Bee with a .383 cubic inch engine. My friends raced at New England dragway and one of them kept that hobby later setting a world record for super stock about 10 years ago. We were just kids, but we were playing with 440 cubic inch engines.

The things we took for granted, I just don't see any of the kids I know now in high school doing. None of them has worked outside of home yet. When I was 15 or 16, I bought a shot gun. I walked in, picked it out and payed for. No questions asked. The kids today don't have that type of freedom and responsibility as we did at an early age.

It just seems that they all have different goals and desires than we did. They certainly appear to lack many of the freedoms and opportunities we had at their same age. Is that just nostalgia, no, I don't think so. Things have objectively changed and in my opinion, not for the better.

[cariad]

I invite you to come back in four years and gloat once again after America has felt the full impact of Obama's regulations and laws. Today, I paid $373.00 to put my snow tires on my truck. They were already mounted and really all it was was a tire rotation. But due to a new Obama regulation, I had to install tire pressure sensors that by themselves was over $270.00. Sorry, I know how to check my own tire pressure without a government regulation making it mandatory. Just one more regulation in the face of many more to come that will cost us more and more money with what benefit? I check my tires on a regular basis, Obama doesn't help me do what I already do myself.

This is why Gwyn and I nod in somber agreement when Bill Maher refers to the Republican party as "One hundred percent Fact Free!"

The TREAD Act was enacted on November 1, 2000, was phased in starting in 2006 and manufacturers had to be in full compliance by 2008. 2008, Peter. Who was President for all but a few weeks of that time? Not to mention that Congress passes these regulations, not the President. To call this a "new Obama regulation" shows that you are uninformed and desperately looking to blame the President for anything and everything, regardless of easily verifiable history. According to Gwyn, with his 25+ years inside the automotive industry, new NHTSA regulations are not enforced on the consumer level and only apply to vehicles built after the regulation goes into effect.

It's good news that you can afford to throw hundreds of dollars away, though, seeing as that is what you've just done. 

[cariad]

Karen, I'm so sorry about the botched biopsy.  I'd be so pissed.  They can find a lot through blood work.  Don't ever let them do that again.  Geez!!

If you lose your job we can get married and I'll put you on my insurance.  Separate bedrooms.

                   

I know this is a joke, but knowing how much same-sex marriage truly bothers you, Rerun, I have to say there is something so unbelievably gracious and sweet about this reply. (It's funny, too!)

I am also so sorry to hear that you have to pay the price for the mistakes of others, Karen. It's all so unfair. Move to England - no more health insurance worries. We have all the rain of Seattle, plus a bit extra for the true rain enthusiast.

[KarenInWA]

Karen, I'm so sorry about the botched biopsy.  I'd be so pissed.  They can find a lot through blood work.  Don't ever let them do that again.  Geez!!

If you lose your job we can get married and I'll put you on my insurance.  Separate bedrooms.

                   

I know this is a joke, but knowing how much same-sex marriage truly bothers you, Rerun, I have to say there is something so unbelievably gracious and sweet about this reply. (It's funny, too!)

I am also so sorry to hear that you have to pay the price for the mistakes of others, Karen. It's all so unfair. Move to England - no more health insurance worries. We have all the rain of Seattle, plus a bit extra for the true rain enthusiast.

Rerun, I thank you for your offer! I hear that having separate bedrooms can actually be good for a lasting marriage, so I can totally go with that requirement! 

Yes, it is almost a year after my transplant ,and I am trying to come to terms that this will be as good as it gets, lab wise. I don't know how to feel about it Here, my donor went through the sacrifice of surgery, giving up one of her healthy kidneys to give to me, and I never even talked to her about my CKD before! I always felt that the best way to receive a live donor kidney was from someone who approached me about it, on their own, and that is exactly what happened. There is still a chance that it might recover more. One can hope.

KarenInWA

[MooseMom]

Karen, I'm so sorry about the botched biopsy.  I'd be so pissed.  They can find a lot through blood work.  Don't ever let them do that again.  Geez!!

If you lose your job we can get married and I'll put you on my insurance.  Separate bedrooms.

                   

I know this is a joke, but knowing how much same-sex marriage truly bothers you, Rerun, I have to say there is something so unbelievably gracious and sweet about this reply. (It's funny, too!)

I am also so sorry to hear that you have to pay the price for the mistakes of others, Karen. It's all so unfair. Move to England - no more health insurance worries. We have all the rain of Seattle, plus a bit extra for the true rain enthusiast.

Rerun, I thank you for your offer! I hear that having separate bedrooms can actually be good for a lasting marriage, so I can totally go with that requirement! 

Yes, it is almost a year after my transplant ,and I am trying to come to terms that this will be as good as it gets, lab wise. I don't know how to feel about it Here, my donor went through the sacrifice of surgery, giving up one of her healthy kidneys to give to me, and I never even talked to her about my CKD before! I always felt that the best way to receive a live donor kidney was from someone who approached me about it, on their own, and that is exactly what happened. There is still a chance that it might recover more. One can hope.

KarenInWA

Well, here is what America is supposed to be all about.  We can have differing opinions and philosphies, but we support each other in times of need.  We all have a common bond, struggling with a hideous disease, and our support for the members of our community far outweigh any political differences.

This is how God blesses America.

[Hemodoc]

I invite you to come back in four years and gloat once again after America has felt the full impact of Obama's regulations and laws. Today, I paid $373.00 to put my snow tires on my truck. They were already mounted and really all it was was a tire rotation. But due to a new Obama regulation, I had to install tire pressure sensors that by themselves was over $270.00. Sorry, I know how to check my own tire pressure without a government regulation making it mandatory. Just one more regulation in the face of many more to come that will cost us more and more money with what benefit? I check my tires on a regular basis, Obama doesn't help me do what I already do myself.

This is why Gwyn and I nod in somber agreement when Bill Maher refers to the Republican party as "One hundred percent Fact Free!"

The TREAD Act was enacted on November 1, 2000, was phased in starting in 2006 and manufacturers had to be in full compliance by 2008. 2008, Peter. Who was President for all but a few weeks of that time? Not to mention that Congress passes these regulations, not the President. To call this a "new Obama regulation" shows that you are uninformed and desperately looking to blame the President for anything and everything, regardless of easily verifiable history. According to Gwyn, with his 25+ years inside the automotive industry, new NHTSA regulations are not enforced on the consumer level and only apply to vehicles built after the regulation goes into effect.

It's good news that you can afford to throw hundreds of dollars away, though, seeing as that is what you've just done.

Dear Cariad,

As you know, regulations in place for years are often interpreted and enforced in different manners by different administrations. This is also the case with the tire pressure monitoring systems. I was told by my Toyota dealer rep that in November of 2011, Obama admin enforced the TPMS for snow tires as well. Thank you for the information on the NHTSA and TPMS, but you will need to update your data base. It turns out that the Obama regulators are now forcing snow tires to be TPMS compliant on all cars and trucks with that system.

I was not taken as your friend Gwyn remarked, it is now the law of the land to enforce compliance with all TPMS enabled cars when placing snow tires. So who is it that is uninformed my friend? The information I was given by the Toyota folks is real and they even got the date right, November 2011.

Thank you for your kind words nevertheless.

http://www.tireindustry.org/uploadedFiles/news/Press_Releases/2011/NHTSA%20Response%20to%20TIA%20TPMS%20Questions%2011-22-11.pdf

[Hemodoc]

Karen, I'm so sorry about the botched biopsy.  I'd be so pissed.  They can find a lot through blood work.  Don't ever let them do that again.  Geez!!

If you lose your job we can get married and I'll put you on my insurance.  Separate bedrooms.

                   

I know this is a joke, but knowing how much same-sex marriage truly bothers you, Rerun, I have to say there is something so unbelievably gracious and sweet about this reply. (It's funny, too!)

I am also so sorry to hear that you have to pay the price for the mistakes of others, Karen. It's all so unfair. Move to England - no more health insurance worries. We have all the rain of Seattle, plus a bit extra for the true rain enthusiast.

Rerun, I thank you for your offer! I hear that having separate bedrooms can actually be good for a lasting marriage, so I can totally go with that requirement! 

Yes, it is almost a year after my transplant ,and I am trying to come to terms that this will be as good as it gets, lab wise. I don't know how to feel about it Here, my donor went through the sacrifice of surgery, giving up one of her healthy kidneys to give to me, and I never even talked to her about my CKD before! I always felt that the best way to receive a live donor kidney was from someone who approached me about it, on their own, and that is exactly what happened. There is still a chance that it might recover more. One can hope.

KarenInWA

Well, here is what America is supposed to be all about.  We can have differing opinions and philosphies, but we support each other in times of need.  We all have a common bond, struggling with a hideous disease, and our support for the members of our community far outweigh any political differences.

This is how God blesses America.

I don't believe we have a common bond at all any longer Moosemom. God does not bless a nation by having a common bond, God blesses a nation in so much as that nation accepts His will and follows His commandments. The fact that America is embracing gay marriage, pot smoking, etc which are all antithetical to the Bible's teachings precludes His blessings. If this nation wants the blessings of God, it is quite simple as God spoke to Solomon three thousand years ago:

II Chronicles 7:12     ¶ And the LORD appeared to Solomon by night, and said unto him, I have heard thy prayer, and have chosen this place to myself for an house of sacrifice.
13     If I shut up heaven that there be no rain, or if I command the locusts to devour the land, or if I send pestilence among my people;
14     If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

With the recent vote, it does not at all appear that the people of America are seeking God's face and turning from their wicked ways let alone humbling themselves before our Holy God. No, I don't see the blessings of America from God at all with our current generation. If God continues to bless America, He will have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah. That is not going to happen.

[Hemodoc]

Here is the response from the Tire Industry Association to the new Obama NHTSA regulations and interpretations of the final 2006 rule on TPMS. Obama will not likely have a lot of new legislative initiatives. Instead, he will modify and rule through existing legislation and reinterpretation of regulations. This is just one such example. I stand firm on what I originally stated, this is a newly enforced Obama tire regulation as of November 2011.




 
For Immediate Release:             Press Contacts:    Mark Cook, Roy Littlefield
November 23, 2011                                          301-430-7280


TIA Gets NHTSA Response on TPMS Questions

The Tire Industry Association (TIA) announced today that the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) has responded to a letter written earlier this year regarding questions related to the servicing of tire pressure monitoring systems (TPMS). The letter outlines four different TPMS scenarios that tire retailers regularly face and how the “make inoperative” provision of the Motor Vehicle Safety Act (49 USC 30122(b)) applies to each situation. The provision “prohibits manufacturers, distributors, dealers, or motor vehicle repair businesses from knowingly making inoperative, in whole or in part, any part of a device or element of design installed on or in a motor vehicle in compliance with an applicable motor vehicle safety standard.”
In the first scenario, TIA asked if a retailer can replace an inoperative TPMS valve stem sensor with a standard rubber snap-in valve stem and still comply with the “make inoperative” provision. NHTSA’s response was that as long as the TPMS part was inoperative before the customer brings the vehicle to the repair business, “a motor vehicle repair business would not be violating 49 USC 30122(b) by removing an inoperative or damaged TPMS sensor and replacing it with a standard snap-in rubber valve stem…However, a motor vehicle repair business that goes on to make any other element of the TPMS system inoperative, for example, by disabling the malfunction indicator lamp, would violate the “make inoperative” provision.”
“This is exactly why our training programs have always stressed the importance of checking the status of the TPMS prior to service,” said Kevin Rohlwing, TIA Senior Vice President of Training. “If a valve stem sensor is not functioning prior to servicing the tires and wheels, then the retailer cannot violate the “make inoperative” provision because the system was already inoperative. This increases the importance of documenting an inoperable TPMS prior to any work being performed on the vehicle, especially now that the batteries in the sensors are starting to die.”

The second scenario focused on the purchase of aftermarket winter tires and wheels and the customer’s refusal to purchase new TPMS sensors or pay for the labor to transfer the original sensors to the aftermarket wheels. NHTSA responded that if the TPMS is functioning at the time of the aftermarket tire and wheel purchase, “a service provider would violate the “make inoperative” prohibition of 49 USC 30122(b) by installing new tires and wheels that do not have a functioning TPMS system. To avoid a “make inoperative” violation, the service provider would need to decline to install the new tires and rims, use the TPMS sensors from the original wheels (if they are compatible), or convince the motorist to purchase new TPMS sensors and ensure that the sensors are properly integrated with the vehicle’s TPMS system.”

“We are admittedly surprised by NHTSA’s response that aftermarket tire and wheels must include TPMS sensors,” remarked Roy Littlefield, TIA Executive Vice President. “Based on the language in the April 2005 Final Rule, we believed that the presence of the malfunction indicator lamp (MIL) would notify the driver that the TPMS was not operable as a result of their decision to decline new sensors or pay for the additional labor to install the original sensors in the aftermarket tire and wheel assemblies. While we have some genuine concerns regarding consumer backlash, it is clear that the Federal government is requiring retailers to make sure the TPMS continues to function following the purchase of aftermarket tires and wheels.”

In the third scenario, TIA asked if a service provider violates the “make inoperative” provision if they inadvertently break a non-defective sensor and are unable to locate an immediate replacement but allow the vehicle to return to service because arrangements were made to obtain and install the replacement part at a future date. NHTSA’s response was, “as a general matter, a violation of the “make inoperative” prohibition does not occur until a repair business allows or intends a vehicle to be returned to use…this would be true regardless of whether arrangements have been made for future repair.”
“While there will be some debate over the circumstances related to inadvertent damage, there are no questions regarding the release of the vehicle,” said Rohlwing. “If the actions of the service provider made a functioning TPMS inoperable, then it cannot be returned to service until the problem is solved.”
The fourth and final scenario describes a situation where a vehicle is released to the consumer without an illuminated MIL and then it illuminates after the vehicle has been driven. According to NHTSA, “The mere illumination of the malfunction indicator lamp after the vehicle has been released by a motor vehicle repair business to the driver would not itself be a violation of the “make inoperative” provision.”
“Based on NHTSA’s response, we are advising tire retailers to document the status of the TPMS before and after any tire or wheel service,” concluded Rohlwing. “If the electronic TPMS relearn or diagnostic tool includes the functionality to produce a print-out on the status of the system, we recommend that retailers give a copy to the consumer and retain a copy for their own records following service.”
A copy of the letter is available on the Association’s website, www.tireindustry.org. Retailers with questions, concerns or comments regarding the NHTSA TPMS letter can send an email to info@tireindustry.org.

About TIA:

The Tire Industry Association, with a 90 year history representing all segments of the national and international tire industry, is the leading advocate, as well as, instructor in technical training of tire service technicians. For more information, visit www.tireindustry.org or call 800-876-8372.
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[cariad]

I invite you to come back in four years and gloat once again after America has felt the full impact of Obama's regulations and laws. Today, I paid $373.00 to put my snow tires on my truck. They were already mounted and really all it was was a tire rotation. But due to a new Obama regulation, I had to install tire pressure sensors that by themselves was over $270.00. Sorry, I know how to check my own tire pressure without a government regulation making it mandatory. Just one more regulation in the face of many more to come that will cost us more and more money with what benefit? I check my tires on a regular basis, Obama doesn't help me do what I already do myself.

This is why Gwyn and I nod in somber agreement when Bill Maher refers to the Republican party as "One hundred percent Fact Free!"

The TREAD Act was enacted on November 1, 2000, was phased in starting in 2006 and manufacturers had to be in full compliance by 2008. 2008, Peter. Who was President for all but a few weeks of that time? Not to mention that Congress passes these regulations, not the President. To call this a "new Obama regulation" shows that you are uninformed and desperately looking to blame the President for anything and everything, regardless of easily verifiable history. According to Gwyn, with his 25+ years inside the automotive industry, new NHTSA regulations are not enforced on the consumer level and only apply to vehicles built after the regulation goes into effect.

It's good news that you can afford to throw hundreds of dollars away, though, seeing as that is what you've just done.

Dear Cariad,

As you know, regulations in place for years are often interpreted and enforced in different manners by different administrations. This is also the case with the tire pressure monitoring systems. I was told by my Toyota dealer rep that in November of 2011, Obama admin enforced the TPMS for snow tires as well. Thank you for the information on the NHTSA and TPMS, but you will need to update your data base. It turns out that the Obama regulators are now forcing snow tires to be TPMS compliant on all cars and trucks with that system.

I was not taken as your friend Gwyn remarked, it is now the law of the land to enforce compliance with all TPMS enabled cars when placing snow tires. So who is it that is uninformed my friend? The information I was given by the Toyota folks is real and they even got the date right, November 2011.

Thank you for your kind words nevertheless.

http://www.tireindustry.org/uploadedFiles/news/Press_Releases/2011/NHTSA%20Response%20to%20TIA%20TPMS%20Questions%2011-22-11.pdf

The notion that members of NHTSA are 'Obama regulators' is ludicrous. Nothing that NHTSA dictates to dealers, manufacturers or other businesses forces the consumer to do anything. You chose to go to a dealer rather than do it yourself and they charged you a ridiculous amount for their labor. NHTSA does not have the authority to dictate anything to individual drivers. Obama was not involved in this at all, but if it makes you feel better to blame him, be my guest.

Perhaps if you did not spend hours hovering over IHD political threads, you'd have more time for other pursuits. Just a thought.

[MooseMom]

That's fine, Hemodoc, that you choose to believe we here at IHD have no common bond.  If you want to exclude yourself from a group of people who care about each other, you are free to do so.  We are all free to form whichever bonds we choose, and I choose to form bonds with the people here who have devoted their time and energy in creating a community that supports and comforts, informs and entertains each other.  If this is not evidence of God's grace, I'll accept that.  What I won't accept is the idea that bonds formed by us ourselves here on IHD are somehow invalid if there are members who may not share the same religious beliefs that you do.

You really are a wet weekend, Hemodoc!   Is there any joy in your life at all?

My two oldest friends both happen to be gay.  I've known them since high school, but it wasn't until several years after graduation that they told me they are gay.  (They are not partners and never were.  Neither are married.)  I've had many talks with them about their sexuality, and as a result of those conversations, I've come to the conclusion that people are just born with their sexual preferences.  It's like being born left-handed.  I don't know anyone who has made a conscious decision to be gay.  So if you believe that each of us is created by God, it makes me wonder why God created gay people?  What is His purpose? 

What are two gay people supposed to do if they want to enter a committed relationship?  Do you support civil unions but not marriage for these couples?  What is acceptable to you?  And what is acceptable to God?  If God created gay people, what kind of relationship does God envisage for these people that He has made in His image?  Does He require that they be lonely?

What had God said about marijuana?  Where does the Bible say that pot is "wicked".  Why is pot wicked but morphine and opiates OK?  How does the Bible address this question? 

Are you seriously saying that the only way that this country could have sought the face of God was to vote for Romney?  That campaign was financed by a non-Christian who is also a casino owner, and isn't gambling supposed to be "wicked"?  Romney's campaign was flooded with money from corporate interests, gamblers and who knows what other kind of sinners, and you are seriously saying that a vote for Romney was a vote for God but a vote for Obama was a vote for, well, not God?  Seriously, this is what you are telling us?

And you really think you have some deep understanding of the current generation in its entirety?  That doesn't strike you as arrogant?  We have members here on IHD who are of a generation younger than you and I, and you post on here that all of them are undeserving of the blessings of God because they are all marching toward Sodom by way of Gomorrah?  I'm astonished that you have condemned them all, like you know them all so well.

Our generation witnessed the Jim Crow laws in full effect.  The Beavers of the world didn't live in every area of the Deep South where dogs were set upon people and black girls were burned.  God has seen the USA commit far worse atrocities upon living human beings that He created, yet somehow you seem to believe that through it all, this was a blessed country.  We have killed, destroyed, enslaved and debased in the name of God, but you see gay marriage and smoking the dried leaves of a plant to be more offensive to God than slavery and the ensuing debasement of whole races of people?  Is this the American for which you are so nostalgic?

[YLGuy]

What had God said about marijuana?  Where does the Bible say that pot is "wicked".  Why is pot wicked but morphine and opiates OK?  How does the Bible address this question? 

In the Holy Bible
Book of Genesis:

1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for food.

1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and behold, it was very good…

[cariad]

What had God said about marijuana?  Where does the Bible say that pot is "wicked".  Why is pot wicked but morphine and opiates OK?  How does the Bible address this question? 

In the Holy Bible
Book of Genesis:

1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for food.

1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and behold, it was very good…

Well quoted, Marc!

[Hemodoc]

That's fine, Hemodoc, that you choose to believe we here at IHD have no common bond.  If you want to exclude yourself from a group of people who care about each other, you are free to do so.  We are all free to form whichever bonds we choose, and I choose to form bonds with the people here who have devoted their time and energy in creating a community that supports and comforts, informs and entertains each other.  If this is not evidence of God's grace, I'll accept that.  What I won't accept is the idea that bonds formed by us ourselves here on IHD are somehow invalid if there are members who may not share the same religious beliefs that you do.

You really are a wet weekend, Hemodoc!   Is there any joy in your life at all?

My two oldest friends both happen to be gay.  I've known them since high school, but it wasn't until several years after graduation that they told me they are gay.  (They are not partners and never were.  Neither are married.)  I've had many talks with them about their sexuality, and as a result of those conversations, I've come to the conclusion that people are just born with their sexual preferences.  It's like being born left-handed.  I don't know anyone who has made a conscious decision to be gay.  So if you believe that each of us is created by God, it makes me wonder why God created gay people?  What is His purpose? 

What are two gay people supposed to do if they want to enter a committed relationship?  Do you support civil unions but not marriage for these couples?  What is acceptable to you?  And what is acceptable to God?  If God created gay people, what kind of relationship does God envisage for these people that He has made in His image?  Does He require that they be lonely?

What had God said about marijuana?  Where does the Bible say that pot is "wicked".  Why is pot wicked but morphine and opiates OK?  How does the Bible address this question? 

Are you seriously saying that the only way that this country could have sought the face of God was to vote for Romney?  That campaign was financed by a non-Christian who is also a casino owner, and isn't gambling supposed to be "wicked"?  Romney's campaign was flooded with money from corporate interests, gamblers and who knows what other kind of sinners, and you are seriously saying that a vote for Romney was a vote for God but a vote for Obama was a vote for, well, not God?  Seriously, this is what you are telling us?

And you really think you have some deep understanding of the current generation in its entirety?  That doesn't strike you as arrogant?  We have members here on IHD who are of a generation younger than you and I, and you post on here that all of them are undeserving of the blessings of God because they are all marching toward Sodom by way of Gomorrah?  I'm astonished that you have condemned them all, like you know them all so well.

Our generation witnessed the Jim Crow laws in full effect.  The Beavers of the world didn't live in every area of the Deep South where dogs were set upon people and black girls were burned.  God has seen the USA commit far worse atrocities upon living human beings that He created, yet somehow you seem to believe that through it all, this was a blessed country.  We have killed, destroyed, enslaved and debased in the name of God, but you see gay marriage and smoking the dried leaves of a plant to be more offensive to God than slavery and the ensuing debasement of whole races of people?  Is this the American for which you are so nostalgic?

No problem Moosemom, but if you want God to bless America, perhaps you should actually read what God states are His requirements. Have a great day.

Peter

[cariad]

I thought what you said about the bonds on IHD transcending politics was lovely, MM. I don't see it from a religious perspective, as you know, but I take the spirit of what you said and fully agree with you - it is special in a way that few things are.

[Hemodoc]

I invite you to come back in four years and gloat once again after America has felt the full impact of Obama's regulations and laws. Today, I paid $373.00 to put my snow tires on my truck. They were already mounted and really all it was was a tire rotation. But due to a new Obama regulation, I had to install tire pressure sensors that by themselves was over $270.00. Sorry, I know how to check my own tire pressure without a government regulation making it mandatory. Just one more regulation in the face of many more to come that will cost us more and more money with what benefit? I check my tires on a regular basis, Obama doesn't help me do what I already do myself.

This is why Gwyn and I nod in somber agreement when Bill Maher refers to the Republican party as "One hundred percent Fact Free!"

The TREAD Act was enacted on November 1, 2000, was phased in starting in 2006 and manufacturers had to be in full compliance by 2008. 2008, Peter. Who was President for all but a few weeks of that time? Not to mention that Congress passes these regulations, not the President. To call this a "new Obama regulation" shows that you are uninformed and desperately looking to blame the President for anything and everything, regardless of easily verifiable history. According to Gwyn, with his 25+ years inside the automotive industry, new NHTSA regulations are not enforced on the consumer level and only apply to vehicles built after the regulation goes into effect.

It's good news that you can afford to throw hundreds of dollars away, though, seeing as that is what you've just done.

Dear Cariad,

As you know, regulations in place for years are often interpreted and enforced in different manners by different administrations. This is also the case with the tire pressure monitoring systems. I was told by my Toyota dealer rep that in November of 2011, Obama admin enforced the TPMS for snow tires as well. Thank you for the information on the NHTSA and TPMS, but you will need to update your data base. It turns out that the Obama regulators are now forcing snow tires to be TPMS compliant on all cars and trucks with that system.

I was not taken as your friend Gwyn remarked, it is now the law of the land to enforce compliance with all TPMS enabled cars when placing snow tires. So who is it that is uninformed my friend? The information I was given by the Toyota folks is real and they even got the date right, November 2011.

Thank you for your kind words nevertheless.

http://www.tireindustry.org/uploadedFiles/news/Press_Releases/2011/NHTSA%20Response%20to%20TIA%20TPMS%20Questions%2011-22-11.pdf

The notion that members of NHTSA are 'Obama regulators' is ludicrous. Nothing that NHTSA dictates to dealers, manufacturers or other businesses forces the consumer to do anything. You chose to go to a dealer rather than do it yourself and they charged you a ridiculous amount for their labor. NHTSA does not have the authority to dictate anything to individual drivers. Obama was not involved in this at all, but if it makes you feel better to blame him, be my guest.

Perhaps if you did not spend hours hovering over IHD political threads, you'd have more time for other pursuits. Just a thought.

Actually I haven't been dealing with IHD's political threads for months and I am about done with these. Thank you for suggesting alternative endeavors. There is snow in the mountains and more to come. I am grateful for God's blessings and about to head out into God's great creation. Thank the Lord for Idaho and good old fashioned old folks just like me up here.

Have a great day Cariad. By the way, doesn't Obama appoint people to rule each cabinet and regulatory post? The idea that presidents don't dictate policy through regulators is a rather naive assessment.

In any case,

Have a great day Cariad.

[Hemodoc]

What had God said about marijuana?  Where does the Bible say that pot is "wicked".  Why is pot wicked but morphine and opiates OK?  How does the Bible address this question? 

In the Holy Bible
Book of Genesis:

1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for food.

1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and behold, it was very good…

Yes, all was good until man messed it up. You need to read the entire story to get it right. You forgot the curse my friend. In any case, glad you read the Bible, hopefully you will understand the true story of salvation for all mankind God gave us.

Genesis 3:17     And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;
18     Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;
19     In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.

[cariad]

I invite you to come back in four years and gloat once again after America has felt the full impact of Obama's regulations and laws. Today, I paid $373.00 to put my snow tires on my truck. They were already mounted and really all it was was a tire rotation. But due to a new Obama regulation, I had to install tire pressure sensors that by themselves was over $270.00. Sorry, I know how to check my own tire pressure without a government regulation making it mandatory. Just one more regulation in the face of many more to come that will cost us more and more money with what benefit? I check my tires on a regular basis, Obama doesn't help me do what I already do myself.

This is why Gwyn and I nod in somber agreement when Bill Maher refers to the Republican party as "One hundred percent Fact Free!"

The TREAD Act was enacted on November 1, 2000, was phased in starting in 2006 and manufacturers had to be in full compliance by 2008. 2008, Peter. Who was President for all but a few weeks of that time? Not to mention that Congress passes these regulations, not the President. To call this a "new Obama regulation" shows that you are uninformed and desperately looking to blame the President for anything and everything, regardless of easily verifiable history. According to Gwyn, with his 25+ years inside the automotive industry, new NHTSA regulations are not enforced on the consumer level and only apply to vehicles built after the regulation goes into effect.

It's good news that you can afford to throw hundreds of dollars away, though, seeing as that is what you've just done.

Dear Cariad,

As you know, regulations in place for years are often interpreted and enforced in different manners by different administrations. This is also the case with the tire pressure monitoring systems. I was told by my Toyota dealer rep that in November of 2011, Obama admin enforced the TPMS for snow tires as well. Thank you for the information on the NHTSA and TPMS, but you will need to update your data base. It turns out that the Obama regulators are now forcing snow tires to be TPMS compliant on all cars and trucks with that system.

I was not taken as your friend Gwyn remarked, it is now the law of the land to enforce compliance with all TPMS enabled cars when placing snow tires. So who is it that is uninformed my friend? The information I was given by the Toyota folks is real and they even got the date right, November 2011.

Thank you for your kind words nevertheless.

http://www.tireindustry.org/uploadedFiles/news/Press_Releases/2011/NHTSA%20Response%20to%20TIA%20TPMS%20Questions%2011-22-11.pdf

The notion that members of NHTSA are 'Obama regulators' is ludicrous. Nothing that NHTSA dictates to dealers, manufacturers or other businesses forces the consumer to do anything. You chose to go to a dealer rather than do it yourself and they charged you a ridiculous amount for their labor. NHTSA does not have the authority to dictate anything to individual drivers. Obama was not involved in this at all, but if it makes you feel better to blame him, be my guest.

Perhaps if you did not spend hours hovering over IHD political threads, you'd have more time for other pursuits. Just a thought.

Actually I haven't been dealing with IHD's political threads for months and I am about done with these. Thank you for suggesting alternative endeavors. There is snow in the mountains and more to come. I am grateful for God's blessings and about to head out into God's great creation. Thank the Lord for Idaho and good old fashioned old folks just like me up here.

Have a great day Cariad. By the way, doesn't Obama appoint people to rule each cabinet and regulatory post? The idea that presidents don't dictate policy through regulators is a rather naive assessment.

In any case,

Have a great day Cariad.

I've had a lovely day - it's late evening here.

You seem fixated on the word 'rule' and telling us to go out and do it (not sure what you think that entails) but the word 'lead' is more appropriate. Yes, Obama appoints his cabinet, and NHTSA would fall under the umbrella of one of the Departments, but the idea that Obama hand-picks each regulator and micro-manages each regulation is a risible notion.

[YLGuy]

Actually I haven't been dealing with IHD's political threads for months and I am about done with these.

Okay, see you in 2 years. Love ya man.
Take care, 
Marc 

[Hemodoc]

I invite you to come back in four years and gloat once again after America has felt the full impact of Obama's regulations and laws. Today, I paid $373.00 to put my snow tires on my truck. They were already mounted and really all it was was a tire rotation. But due to a new Obama regulation, I had to install tire pressure sensors that by themselves was over $270.00. Sorry, I know how to check my own tire pressure without a government regulation making it mandatory. Just one more regulation in the face of many more to come that will cost us more and more money with what benefit? I check my tires on a regular basis, Obama doesn't help me do what I already do myself.

This is why Gwyn and I nod in somber agreement when Bill Maher refers to the Republican party as "One hundred percent Fact Free!"

The TREAD Act was enacted on November 1, 2000, was phased in starting in 2006 and manufacturers had to be in full compliance by 2008. 2008, Peter. Who was President for all but a few weeks of that time? Not to mention that Congress passes these regulations, not the President. To call this a "new Obama regulation" shows that you are uninformed and desperately looking to blame the President for anything and everything, regardless of easily verifiable history. According to Gwyn, with his 25+ years inside the automotive industry, new NHTSA regulations are not enforced on the consumer level and only apply to vehicles built after the regulation goes into effect.

It's good news that you can afford to throw hundreds of dollars away, though, seeing as that is what you've just done.

Dear Cariad,

As you know, regulations in place for years are often interpreted and enforced in different manners by different administrations. This is also the case with the tire pressure monitoring systems. I was told by my Toyota dealer rep that in November of 2011, Obama admin enforced the TPMS for snow tires as well. Thank you for the information on the NHTSA and TPMS, but you will need to update your data base. It turns out that the Obama regulators are now forcing snow tires to be TPMS compliant on all cars and trucks with that system.

I was not taken as your friend Gwyn remarked, it is now the law of the land to enforce compliance with all TPMS enabled cars when placing snow tires. So who is it that is uninformed my friend? The information I was given by the Toyota folks is real and they even got the date right, November 2011.

Thank you for your kind words nevertheless.

http://www.tireindustry.org/uploadedFiles/news/Press_Releases/2011/NHTSA%20Response%20to%20TIA%20TPMS%20Questions%2011-22-11.pdf

The notion that members of NHTSA are 'Obama regulators' is ludicrous. Nothing that NHTSA dictates to dealers, manufacturers or other businesses forces the consumer to do anything. You chose to go to a dealer rather than do it yourself and they charged you a ridiculous amount for their labor. NHTSA does not have the authority to dictate anything to individual drivers. Obama was not involved in this at all, but if it makes you feel better to blame him, be my guest.

Perhaps if you did not spend hours hovering over IHD political threads, you'd have more time for other pursuits. Just a thought.

Actually I haven't been dealing with IHD's political threads for months and I am about done with these. Thank you for suggesting alternative endeavors. There is snow in the mountains and more to come. I am grateful for God's blessings and about to head out into God's great creation. Thank the Lord for Idaho and good old fashioned old folks just like me up here.

Have a great day Cariad. By the way, doesn't Obama appoint people to rule each cabinet and regulatory post? The idea that presidents don't dictate policy through regulators is a rather naive assessment.

In any case,

Have a great day Cariad.

I've had a lovely day - it's late evening here.

You seem fixated on the word 'rule' and telling us to go out and do it (not sure what you think that entails) but the word 'lead' is more appropriate. Yes, Obama appoints his cabinet, and NHTSA would fall under the umbrella of one of the Departments, but the idea that Obama hand-picks each regulator and micro-manages each regulation is a risible notion.

Actually, not my fixation at all, but instead Obama and his advisors.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7Nlq80DVpo

So, go rule. I am getting on with my life and will cope with the political climate whoever is in charge.

[cariad]

So, go rule. I am getting on with my life and will cope with the political climate whoever is in charge.

You've said this easily a dozen times with no indication that you are in fact getting on with your life. I am not even in America anymore and so sadly can take no credit for any of Obama's successes over the next four years.

[Hemodoc]

So, go rule. I am getting on with my life and will cope with the political climate whoever is in charge.

You've said this easily a dozen times with no indication that you are in fact getting on with your life. I am not even in America anymore and so sadly can take no credit for any of Obama's successes over the next four years.

You are comical Cariad. I come and comment for a few days on a couple of threads after not going on IHD for months aand all of a sudden you pronounce my life as stagnant. 

In any case, if you don't want to rule with Obama, there should be plenty of room to lead from behind with him.

Take care, thanks for the chuckles.

[jbeany]

I don't think it's stagnant, Hemodoc - I just think you enjoy the political banter!  You posted all of once in August, after not being with us since April.  Then in the last 5 days, you've had 26 posts, all in the politics section.   

Hey, if you are heading back to whatever you do the rest of the time, don't wait 4 years to come back and check in, okay?  I think we need more discussion on the issues all the time, not just in November every 4 years, which is when most of Traditional America actually pays attention! 

[Whamo]

Who said the sixties were great?  I agree.  I was a teenager back then.  I'd come home from school, grab my surfboard, and hit the waves.  Usually it was just me and the sea.  I loved those days.

[Rerun]

MM you have so many questions.  I wish you could come to church with me.  Today was so awesome. 

Peter stay in Cd'A it is safe there.  Maybe we could meet at Cabela's for some lunch one day.  They serve wild game there.  I'll stick with the beef.  Cabela's is still in Idaho.

[Hemodoc]

MM you have so many questions.  I wish you could come to church with me.  Today was so awesome. 

Peter stay in Cd'A it is safe there.  Maybe we could meet at Cabela's for some lunch one day.  They serve wild game there.  I'll stick with the beef.  Cabela's is still in Idaho.

Sounds good to me Rerun. Are you seeing Dr. O on the 26th? CDA is great. My wife and I ate at the Cabelas cafe a couple of months ago with our granddaughter. Not bad at all. Had some of their wild rice soup. Beef is just fine as well.

Stay in touch, God bless,

Peter