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« on: February 04, 2007, 07:48:48 PM »

I was just sitting here thinking and I thought I would post something for discussion.

Any of you who have websites, do your family members go to it and show you support? Do you expect them to or wish for them to? Or do you care if they never even check your site out?

Just something I was curious about. Maybe I am just self-absorbed so I thought I would ask your opinions!

Post away! Anything :) :thumbup;
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« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2007, 08:49:47 PM »

My mom read smy blog and so do my sisters.  It is an update for the family.  However I will not post worrisome stuff if I do not know what it is.  The Kaiser appointment with the surgeonis a no-no.  My Mom would freak out.   
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« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2007, 08:51:29 PM »

Hi Angie,   Although this is not MY website (by that, i mean not created by me) BUT  it is a big part of my life and my family knows that.  When they do come over and i am on the pc, they will sit with me and i will show them around.  It makes me feel good that they are interested in something that means so much to me.  I show them all the pics and tell them who is who, i believe if they had the time to sit in front of the pc like i do they would be a member as well.   They think it is cool how i have not only met the creator but i have had dinner with them and they have even spent the night at my house.  :2thumbsup;
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« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2007, 09:04:03 PM »

As with Goofynina, this is not my website but my family knows about it.  They don't come and look.  I'm glad because I say things on here that they would not like to hear. 

Angie I can understand you feeling bad, but Jeff reads your stuff and he is your family.
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« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2007, 10:17:44 PM »

I was just sitting here thinking and I thought I would post something for discussion.

Any of you who have websites, do your family members go to it and show you support? Do you expect them to or wish for them to? Or do you care if they never even check your site out?

Just something I was curious about. Maybe I am just self-absorbed so I thought I would ask your opinions!

Post away! Anything :) :thumbup;

You're not the only one Angie, I run 7 dialysis websites and my mom, dad, or my brother do not visit them. My mom and dad will ask "how is your site going, get any new hits?"  ::) My brother, when we talked never went either and never asked about them. Even though he knew how important they are to me. It does hurt me sometimes but they really have NEVER been interested in my "dialysis life" or anything to do with it.

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« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2007, 10:37:01 PM »

You're not the only one Angie, I run 7 dialysis websites and my mom, dad, or my brother do not visit them. My mom and dad will ask "how is your site going, get any new hits?"  ::) My brother, when we talked never went either and never asked about them. Even though he knew how important they are to me. It does hurt me sometimes but they really have NEVER been interested in my "dialysis life" or anything to do with it.

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Ya exactly how I felt but that is why I wanted to hear what others had to say because I started to think that maybe it is normal for family to not be as invested in what is most important in my life but rather their own. I just had hoped they would help me raise money for the kidney foundation or buy bracelets, but so far it looks like Kitkatz will be the first!

As with Goofynina, this is not my website but my family knows about it. They don't come and look. I'm glad because I say things on here that they would not like to hear.

Angie I can understand you feeling bad, but Jeff reads your stuff and he is your family.

Thanks Rerun and everyone! Yes, Jeff is my family now and he is always on my site and even does a lot of the coding! You are so right!

And infact that is why we need the kidney dialysis sites we are on! Because where our families might not be able to handle a lot of what we go through, our sites here and the people on them are now our families!!

Thanks guys!  :grouphug;

Edit: Actually my mom is trying but is just way too busy and doesn't really know how to be there for me emotionally and needs me more to listen and be there for her instead. My mom used to be interested in my "dialysis life" when I was living at home but since my parents split, it has been different. I think she feels a lot of guilt and is in denial.
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« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2007, 05:34:12 AM »

No one in my life gives a damn about what I do on the internet. My son however would share my seat no matter what I do just to be near me.

I don't have my own site yet but I spend most of my free time involved with IHD so it might as well be mine.
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« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2007, 06:05:42 AM »

No one in my life gives a damn about what I do on the internet. My son however would share my seat no matter what I do just to be near me.

I don't have my own site yet but I spend most of my free time involved with IHD so it might as well be mine.
lol I thought you woulda had a web site by now considering there is FREE Web-Hosting of websites for ALL "Premium Members" ;)
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« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2007, 12:13:48 PM »

I'm working on a web site for my business but haven't had time to work on it lately, Epoman will be hosting for me.
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« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2007, 01:42:51 PM »

I was just sitting here thinking and I thought I would post something for discussion.

Any of you who have websites, do your family members go to it and show you support? Do you expect them to or wish for them to? Or do you care if they never even check your site out?

Just something I was curious about. Maybe I am just self-absorbed so I thought I would ask your opinions!

Post away! Anything :) :thumbup;

I hve a profile on AOL under meadowlandsnj with pictures and websites I like and occasionally my family looks at it but I know they don't go to any dialysis related sites I go to.  They seem uninterested and bored with the idea of it.  Oh well. 

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« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2007, 02:15:57 AM »

Dialysis is one unique experience.   Unless you are going through it nobody else seems to be able to comprehend it.  I stopped explaining years ago.
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« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2007, 02:29:15 AM »

Dialysis is one unique experience.   Unless you are going through it nobody else seems to be able to comprehend it.  I stopped explaining years ago.
Ya I think I am at that point .. especially with my last experience: My friend Marco comes to visit me in dialysis and asks a question about it. I start to answer it and he notices Al (another dialysis patient who has since had a transplant on Jan 26th this year) is looking in his direction so he walks over there and talks to him while I am still talking. My mom said she noticed this about him as well. She calls him self-absorbed. I think it was Sandman who explained to me that my health is sometimes complicated to explain (certain parts like diet and dialysis) and people just want a short direct answer.

What kind of questions do you get asked and how do you answer?
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« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2007, 02:42:56 AM »

The outrageously underinformed public (pity them) have the immense capacity to ask so many dumb questons just remembering them gives me headache.
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« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2007, 02:48:54 AM »

The outrageously underinformed public (pity them) have the immense capacity to ask so many dumb questons just remembering them gives me headache.
Oh ya you should definately check out this thread then ;)  ( http://ihatedialysis.com/forum/index.php?topic=65.0 )
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« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2007, 06:10:17 AM »

Angie a little advice. I am 45 years old and I have never to this day feel accepted by some people including my family.

Now there are two ways of looking at this.  Either I did something that makes them not accept me or take an interest in what I'm doing.   

OR

They are just that screwed up and their opinion shouldn't direct my life's road or direction.

Only you know which one of these apply to yourself. I think Rerun said it the best

Angie I can understand you feeling bad, but Jeff reads your stuff and he is your family.


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« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2007, 06:30:36 AM »

My parent's don't log in to this website on their own, however if I ask them to come read something from here, they do. They have always been there for me with my health. They understand my diet and blah blah, and when an ignorant person comes along and thinks they know everything I usually don't need to correct them, if my parents are there, they will gladly do it.  :lol;
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« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2007, 07:38:11 AM »

Angie a little advice. I am 45 years old and I have never to this day feel accepted by some people including my family.

Now there are two ways of looking at this.  Either I did something that makes them not accept me or take an interest in what I'm doing.   

OR

They are just that screwed up and their opinion shouldn't direct my life's road or direction.

Only you know which one of these apply to yourself. I think Rerun said it the best

Just my  :twocents; worth.
Well as I get older I am finding that I just accept that is how my parents are and don't have unrealistic expectations but seek acceptance elsewhere, and I also discover that they ARE there for me but just in their own distant way. I know they love me and care and worry. Everyone has their own way of showing things.

My parent's don't log in to this website on their own, however if I ask them to come read something from here, they do. They have always been there for me with my health. They understand my diet and blah blah, and when an ignorant person comes along and thinks they know everything I usually don't need to correct them, if my parents are there, they will gladly do it. :lol;
Even though my parents are not like that (boy I wish they were) it is funny when my mom does stand up for me (very rarely so I remember it). Ah those are the times you never forget :)

Thx guys!  :grouphug;
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« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2007, 09:45:48 AM »

I don't want family to go on this site, because it is the one place I can vent, rant and be myself. They could be hurt by some of my posts!   This is my little comfort zone!!!
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« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2007, 05:12:16 PM »

I don't want family to go on this site, because it is the one place I can vent, rant and be myself. They could be hurt by some of my posts!   This is my little comfort zone!!!



You are right Paris thats a good point that you make.
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« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2007, 07:37:10 PM »

I don't want family to go on this site, because it is the one place I can vent, rant and be myself. They could be hurt by some of my posts!   This is my little comfort zone!!!
True. I would hold back at first but then when I realized they would never come on any kidney sites I decided I could open up a little more ;) But then I ended up closing up again because some people had misinterpretted things I said :(  Sometimes you just can't win :P
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« Reply #20 on: February 07, 2007, 11:06:38 PM »


What kind of questions do you get asked and how do you answer?

"How are you?  How's dialysis going?"

I'm fine.  It's fine.  Fine, fine, fine, fine, fine.

They don't want to know - and they don't understand when you tell them - so I've given up trying.  I have a select few among my friends and family who want a real answer, and will listen when I give it.  All the rest are a waste of breath when it comes to details.

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« Reply #21 on: February 08, 2007, 12:21:40 AM »


What kind of questions do you get asked and how do you answer?

"How are you?  How's dialysis going?"

I'm fine.  It's fine.  Fine, fine, fine, fine, fine.

They don't want to know - and they don't understand when you tell them - so I've given up trying.  I have a select few among my friends and family who want a real answer, and will listen when I give it.  All the rest are a waste of breath when it comes to details.


yeah that is my friend Marco! LOL!!  :banghead; Oh and all the people that I work with! They ask so I used to tell them. I mean geeze! If you ask don't you want an answer? I didn't realize they were just making conversation but really didn't want an answer .. :(

So I learned to not waste my breath neither but it took me awhile to learn. Call me slow but I just didn't realize people were NOT interested in what I go through. I was so needy when it came to wanting to be understood that I would go around and explain my situation to those that seemed interested figuring that I was spreading awareness (maybe that came from my mom being like that when I was at the children's hospital and talking about what I was going through all the time and taking pics of every step. lol :-[ )! even here I was telling people how I was born a sick child but they didn't know why until I was 9 they found out I had reflux.

But eventually I learned that different people want to hear different things. My mom wants to hear all the details about the health aspect of it all but not about my financial burdens (non-medical expenses). My dad doesn't want details but likes instead to me able to look loving infront of his girlfriends and then just wants to know I am okay but that is all. No details. He likes to look like the "sickest one in the family" and will start talking about himself instead... My friends just want to hear that I am not going to die but no details or they get bored as they have never had anything remotely close happen to them. Other patients want information to help in the future and not to help rehash the past. I was still in the past until GoofyNina and Epoman helped me get my priorities straight. I am still learning how to improve my communication skills and how to make things happen in my life, but one thing I have noticed is, not everyone is interested in what we go through. Why should they be if they are healthy?

Usually people are not interested in hearing about Kidney Disease unless it has affected them in some fashion.
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« Reply #22 on: February 08, 2007, 12:36:20 AM »

I must say psychologically things have improved a lot.  30 years ago there was absolutely no venue to share your true feelings as a dialysis patient.  You were surrounded by the wall of ignorance and indifference.  Thank God for the online community!
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« Reply #23 on: February 08, 2007, 01:34:09 AM »

I must say psychologically things have improved a lot.  30 years ago there was absolutely no venue to share your true feelings as a dialysis patient.  You were surrounded by the wall of ignorance and indifference.  Thank God for the online community!
EXACTLY!! I think that is why so many patients have made websites (like I did) and then when Blogs came out that really boomed!
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« Reply #24 on: February 08, 2007, 02:40:14 AM »

We thank you and the likes of Epoman for doing what you do :thumbup;
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