We'r going to die anyways so might as well do what I want, a quote from a friend

[sullidog]

I have a friend who quoted this "We're all going to die anyways so I can do what I want." This friend is a smoker and has some health issues, he quotes this whenever someone is trying to get him to quit smoking do to his health.
I don't know what to think of his quote, but I think it's depressing to hear. It's kind of like well might as well quit dialysis because I'm going to die some day anyways.
I just got out of a depressed state like most of us seem to have had or are dealing with this month where I wanted to die. I just want to say it's not worth it, I for one am young and have a lot of friends and family that I'd be leaving behind and I realize I'd be missing a lot, I also thought of what my neph told me, you will have a long life expectency on dialysis.
I now have a psycologist.
I just wanted to make this post to encourage all of you to please keep going no matter how hard it gets. It's not worth losing your own life over. I ask you if you are going through a hard time to please get support from friends and family, and or a councelor, talk to them, be honest.
I did take a perkaset while I was going through my speal of depression then stopped and talked to a family member.
I'm doing ok now although my life is a bit stressful right now but I'm going to keep on going and take it day by day.

[Rerun]

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[willowtreewren]

Sullidog,

For those of us in the northern hemisphere, February is a pretty tough month. We have been deprived of sunlight for a while. Granted, the days ARE getting longer, but the cumulative effect of the short days is taking its toll. I realized a few years ago that I always got depressed and crabby during February. Now I try to plan around that tendency.

I'm glad you are pulling out of it. Keep this in mind next year, though. 

Aleta

[Jean]

Thanks for sharing that with us Sullidog. I think we all go thru bouts of depression, even if they are mini bouts. Yes, we are all gonna die, that does not mean you cant make a little effort to live a little longer. That guy just does not want to quit smoking, plain and simple.

[amanda100wilson]

When your friend gets lung cancer, he will realise what a fool he's been and dying can be long and painful.  How stupid (and thoughtless) is he?

[RichardMEL]

my take on the quote:

Saying that sort of thing is paying lip service to known risks. eg: he's a smoker, knows all too well what the likely outcome is, but since it hasn't hit it's not "real" in its impact on him... so a cavalier attitude kind of applies.

Having said that it's easy judge given two statements. What if it was said by an 89 year old suffering various serious and probably terminal aliments? Who would argue with someone in that situation having a drink and/or a smoke(unless they were on oxygen or something-I have seen patients dragging around O2 tanks outside the hospital and lighting up.... yikes!).

There's also a point that everyone has different perspectives on their lives. Most people reading this board are, sadly, well aquainted with a chronic disease being kidney failure, let alone anything else. I think most of us would not be so flippant (I'm just sidestepping the depression topic here) though in some respects many on our situation could well be  excused for such a view given that it's not unknown for spontaneous "events" to occur - moreso than in the general population I mean.

I think it can be upsetting to hear something like that when we're dealing with the stuff that we are though - I could certainly understand that.

[sullidog]

oops my bad, I just didn't know where I should of put it, maybe general discussion then.
Thanks!

[natnnnat]

True, they might be an 89 year old, and then, good on them. 
But often people who say that kind of thing are 'normals' with relatively long lives to lead.
As RM points out, when people say "we're all gonna die" and then light up, they don't feel immediate ill-effects (in fact, they might feel immediate good effects like "ahh nicotine".  Lung cancer is so far down the track that it seems like each individual cigarette doesn't make any difference (I used to love smoking.  I know, I know.)
Whereas kidney patients, their systems are so volatile, that they sometimes do get 'immediate effects'. 
Gregory eats some tasty salty ribs, and the next day, voila, puffy ankles.
Its hard to be cavalier when things are that immediate, and ominous.

[Gerald Lively]

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