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« on: June 09, 2011, 05:32:13 AM »

Hi everyone.
I'm very new to this site and not too sure how everything works yet, but I'm trying!
My daughter (age 7) has a new kidney and we have been battling BK. It goes back and forth from just being in her urine to transferring to the blood. Her highest levels have been urine-8 bil copies and blood-30,000 copies. These are the highest levels seen in my  daughter's pediatric center. Currently her levels are just under 3 mil in urine and negative in blood. She has been off cellcept since last July, which is scary because my daughter's donor was a 6 mismatch. She is on a low dose of Tacro(prograf) and Prednisone and also on Leflunomide to try to control the virus. Once we clear Bk in the urine, she can go back on cellcept. The problem is that I don't know that she will ever clear it and at some point they will want her back on her maintenance dose of immuno meds.
Has anyone had this virus and gotten rid of it? If so, HOW?
Very happy that Kiley got a kidney after a failed transplant attempt and a lifetime of dialysis but so do wish she now did not have to face this new issue and the problems that can come with it.
Please let me know if anyone has ANY info at all.
Until then, I will just keep praying that this too shall pass.
P.S. Don't mean to sound ungrateful, because I'm not. I am so much happier that Kiley is on this side of it all. Dialysis was HELL, as you all know to well.
Just tired of seeing my baby have to go through it all and tired of being so scared!
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« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2011, 06:16:40 AM »

I wish I had some answers for you, but all i have is  :cuddle;   Hang in there! Keep on fighting Kiley. I have been battling this disease my whole life, it does get weary going through the valleys, but there are peaks.

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« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2011, 03:22:14 PM »

Getting rid of BKV from blood is a great achievement. I am told that more than 70% of the population are positive with BKV in urine and I am not sure we can get rid of them from the urine. Without BKV in the blood, BKV should not affect the kidney. A routine monitoring is needed. I am also battling with BKV and have not been able to get rid of them from my blood. My normal target prograf level is 8-10, and now it is 4-6. I do not take Cellcept, and my Myfortic has also be stopped and replaced by Leflunomide(20 mg/day). I do not have any Prednisones.
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« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2011, 11:16:15 PM »

I am so sorry - it must be tough to have this hanging over Kiley's head.  :(
How is she feeling?
You may have seen this but if not it might have more info http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2268664/
and here is a more recent, extensive article http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/dat.20544/full
I pray the treatment works and Kiley can get on with being a kid! Lots of hugs and good thoughts coming your way!
 :grouphug; :grouphug; :grouphug;
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« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2011, 12:15:18 AM »

I'm  so  sorry your  daughter is  dealing  with this!!  My  heart  goes  out to  her.
I  will say  a prayer  for her,  if that's  okay  with you.
A  friend of  mine  had  this.   She  mentioned  reducing her  antirejection  meds and  antivirals.

here's what I  found:
http://cjasn.asnjournals.org/content/3/Supplement_2/S68.full
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The goal in treating BKV infection is to eliminate the virus while preserving renal function and preventing acute or chronic rejection. The treatment of BKV infection has centered on alterations in immunosuppressive therapy with or without antiviral therapies. Several regimens for altering immunosuppressive therapy have been attempted to treat this infection. These include discontinuation of an agent, decreasing an agent, switching immunosuppressant within the same class or to another class, and steroid avoidance. As a proof of this strategy, patients who had BKV infection and were inadvertently treated with an antilymphocyte agent or pulse corticosteroids for presumptive acute rejection had rapid progression toward graft failure (6,49).

Discontinuation of a single immunosuppression agent, antimetabolite (MMF or azathioprine), upon recognition of viremia has been used successfully to clear viremia (49). Reduction in immunosuppression by halving both antimetabolites and calcineurin inhibitors has also been successful in eliminating viremia and preserving renal function (50). Steroid avoidance has been suggested to decrease the prevalence of BKV infection (51).

Antiviral therapy with leflunomide or cidofovir has been used in conjunction with decreasing immunosuppression in some cases. Leflunomide is an immunosuppressant medication developed for use in treatment of rheumatoid arthritis. A metabolite of leflunomide (A77 1726) has been shown to have antiviral properties (52,53). Treatment with this agent is associated with decreasing circulating viral copies (53–55); however, introduction of leflunomide has been attempted only with concomitant discontinuation of the antiproliferative agent MMF and decreased dosages of tacrolimus (53,54). Hence, it is unclear whether viral clearance is secondary to leflunomide or the decrease in immunosuppression. Leflunomide treatment is limited because of the requirement of large doses of drug, necessity for liver function monitoring to detect liver toxicity, and need for therapeutic monitoring of trough A77 1726 levels for effectively treating this infection (53–55). In their successful report of 17 patients with BKVN, Williams et al. (53) showed viral clearance or reduction in viral load when A77 1726 levels persisted above 40 μg/ml. This requirement for a target therapeutic level of leflunomide was confirmed by the same investigators in their subsequent study of 26 patients with BKVN (54). A short-acting leflunomide, FK778, has been compared with reduction in immunosuppression alone in a prospective, randomized study to treat BKVN. This study did not show any beneficial effect of FK778 in clearing the virus as opposed to reduction in immunosuppression alone (A. Guasch, Department of Medicine, Emory University School of Medicine, Atlanta, Georgia, personal communication (May 9, 2007 at the American Transplant Congress), presented for Astella Study Group ATC 2007).

Cidofovir, a nucleoside analogue used in the treatment of cytomegalovirus retinitis, has shown activity against BKV. Unfortunately, cidofovir is nephrotoxic, and its use must be weighed against the possible risk for further worsening of renal function (56–58). Cidofovir has also been used in conjunction with lowering immunosuppression, making comments regarding its efficacy difficult. A prospective, randomized, controlled trial is under way to evaluate the efficacy and safety of cidofovir for patients with BKVN (http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT00138424). Cidofovir is administered when patients fail to respond to reduction in immunosuppressive therapy and is administered typically 10 to 20% of that needed in the treatment of cytomegalovirus retinitis in patients with HIV infection (0.25 to 1 versus 3 to 5 mg/kg) (57,58).

Therapy with the anti-CD20 mAb rituximab was recently reported with promising results. Patients who had BKVN and were treated with rituximab and followed for 17 mo had no graft failure compared with 46% graft loss in the control group (59). The administration of intravenous Ig (IVIG) with concomitant reduction in immunosuppressive therapy has been successful; however, efficacy of IVIG is unclear, because it has been administered with concomitant reduction in immunosuppressive therapy (54,60). Wadei et al. (61) recently reported on their experience with treatment of BKVN with cidofovir and IVIG in patients whose immunosuppression was generally reduced in all and converted to cyclosporine therapy in some. Their findings suggested no benefit with conversion to cyclosporine from tacrolimus, use of cidofovir, or IVIG therapies.

Close monitoring for BKV DNA and renal function with any therapy is critical to improving outcome for patients with BKV infection. Elimination of BKV DNA occurs during a period of 6 mo with either an antiviral agent or reduction in immunosuppressive therapy (50,53). At our center, we follow quantitative plasma BKV DNA and renal function every 2 wk for 8 wk then monthly thereafter until clearance of BK viremia and stabilization of renal function. We have been successful in eliminating circulating virus and preventing further renal dysfunction with low rates of acute rejection (50). Thus, close follow-up is of paramount importance in effectively treating patients with BKVN.

 
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« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2011, 01:19:00 PM »

Thank you for your prayers and the Bk info. This is the only place I have found that truly understands this journey we are on. God Bless!
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« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2011, 01:35:26 PM »

This seems to be a popular topic recently. There are 3 to 4 recently new discusions about the BK virus.
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« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2011, 03:45:20 PM »

My husband is actually participating on a study regarding the BK virus at Johns Hopkins. It appears that the specific cellular response in the virus may play a roll in graft longevity.

The six antigen mismatch only decreases longevity odds by 10-20% if you look at the information on UNOs.  I easily see the benefits of having a six antigen mismatch at the age of six.

Most transplant patients are taken off cell cept.  My husband has received a 4/6 and 3/6 and will use prograf/prednisone  as his main medications. He was also a pediatric transplant recipient and turned thirty last month.
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