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« on: April 20, 2011, 01:45:47 AM »

As you know I went for a hernia op the 5 April - woke up 2 days later in ICU - I had some reaction to the anaesthetic, they couldn't wake me up.

I was in extreme pain and could not urinate. I had a full bladder but the "peeing" action just didn't want to work so they had to insert a catheter. That resolved after a few days.
I have never suffered from high blood pressure but suddenly I developed it while in hospital.... that has now been resolved.

I was in hospital for a week. :stressed;

On my third day at home the transplant clinic phoned to let me know that the Dept of Health (currently reviewing me and my donor's files for a transplant) has replied with a long list of questions. She told me to rather not bargain on the transplant happening any more.  :'( :'( :'( But if it does happen it will be a miracle.

Well, I based ALL our future plans on this transplant - It was the only thing to hope for. It made everything bearable, but now?

It all seem so hopeless  !!!!

What now? What do I hope for now? I CANNOT wait for 5 more years for a cadaver kidney. I just can't.

I fall asleep crying in hubby's arms most nights. 
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« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2011, 06:52:55 AM »

 :grouphug; :grouphug; :grouphug;

I'm so sorry Des.

You can still hope for the transplant.  You can try again,  you can find out why the Dept of Health refused, if they do.  You can hope for a perfect match that bumps you up the waiting list.
You can hope for the strength to muddle through until something to hope for shows up.

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« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2011, 07:20:07 AM »

Oh, Des! What a scary time for you for a few reasons.

I am assuming they have a long list of questions because the donor is not related to you?

I know next to nothing about how South Africa operates, but I do remember from my brief time living there that almost everything requires government approval and that approval usually takes ages to come through. Are you the one who will be responding to the Department of Health? I hope so. Please answer all of their questions and include in your response that your transplant will quite literally save the life of another South African. If I understand the reports from South Africa correctly, getting you off dialysis will open up your chair for another person who might have been sent home to die. I would also ask anyone in any position of authority - your doctor, your local elected official, any friends you might have that are also respected community members - to write a note on your behalf. Send all of these materials together. This is what we are advised to do here in these situations, so perhaps it would also work there.

Don't give up, Des. You can make it to this transplant. The person who rang from the transplant clinic does not know for sure what is going to happen, so don't lose faith just yet.

 :grouphug; :cuddle;
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« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2011, 07:31:32 AM »

Des you can not give up. Who knows what will happen to-morrowor next year. Things are changing all the time. Thinking of you.
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« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2011, 07:39:35 AM »

Des, I am so sorry.  You know you have a bunch of people who love and care about you including me.  You are always in my thoughts and prayers.  Things might not look the best right now but the only constant in life is change.  Things may be different tomorrow.  You are such a wonderful person that I have to believe good things are around the corner for you.  Hang in there.
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« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2011, 07:55:14 AM »

Des, I was so sad and disappointed for you when I read this post.  I hope that you can try to hang on to the hope that the dept of health can be satisfied when their questions are answered.  Like the peeing issue and the blood pressure issue I'll continue to hope that this issue will be resolved. 
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« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2011, 08:14:45 AM »

A list of questions is not a rejection.... keep fighting for the transplant!!   :boxing; :boxing;
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« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2011, 10:07:45 AM »

The whole process is a roller coaster ride - hopefully you can overcome this obstacle and keep moving forward.
Sending you HUGS des!  :grouphug; :grouphug; :grouphug;
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« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2011, 10:12:31 AM »

I am so sorry....... :'( :'(
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« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2011, 12:40:04 PM »

Oh Des.  Many *huggles* ... I really hope that things start looking brighter again soon.
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« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2011, 01:53:38 PM »


Des, I am so sorry to read about your unsettling news.

I wish you great strengths in this difficult time.

Best wishes from Kristina.
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« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2011, 02:08:53 PM »

Des, Dear,

The very last thing you should do is give up. Cm'on. Get up and start fighting. First of all, get yourself physically better. That will give you the running start you need.

I know, it is hard when you aren't feeling your best and just coming out of the hospital you certainly aren't.

Then think of your lovely, beautiful darling children. Next think of THEIR children, the ones they don't have yet! Think about how important it is that those wonderful future children will want to know you. YOU! Not stories about you, but the loving grandmother that you know you will be.

Then follow the advice of all the wonderful folks here. Get your doctor on your side. AND FIGHT!
 :cuddle;

Draw your strength from us.

FIGHT

Show them that you are one cookie who deserves a kidney. You have done everything right so far, so don't give up!
 :grouphug; :grouphug; :grouphug;

Much love,

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« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2011, 02:20:44 PM »

I'm so sorry to hear this :grouphug; What's their reason for rejecting you for a transplant. I don't understand.
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« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2011, 03:08:13 PM »

Des I am heartbroken for you!! I know how it feels to have high hopes/expectatons then they fall flat. sending you prayers of love, comfort, and hope!

love you!

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« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2011, 10:56:04 AM »

Thanks  :'(

I don't feel like fighting right now, maybe tomorrow.

I am yet again glad that I have all you special people in my life...... but I am just so ..... kicked in the gut, you know what I mean, just like a deflated balloon.   

I just spent another 2 days in hospital with an infection.  :banghead;


To answer a few of your questions.
The questions being asked by the Dept of health are related to the donor's test results and it is adressed to the doctor representing her. (we each have our own to ensure that she is protected at all times) I can only hope that he can answer all of them and that they accept the answers. I am so tired of "hoping" for the best - for now I just feel "whatever".

I am just going to go with the flow.
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« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2011, 11:28:26 AM »

Oh Des, I am new here, but I just have to respond.....  not that I can say anything you haven't already heard.......  but still, I "hear you"..... and understand how you feel.  And don't try to make up any hopefulness at this time... you have been through so much.  Rest..... heal..... 

And if you decide on anything, decide to not judge your future and the rest of your life on what you can see right now.  You don't know what is around the corner.  Right now, look at one small thing that is beautiful, and good.  Find one small thing that you can be thankful for (your husband?)  Just keep doing that, hour by hour..... and then start again tomorrow. 

I am far away in Alaska....  waiting too.  And hoping and praying FOR you..... as are the rest of your friends here. 

Blessings

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« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2011, 11:30:23 AM »

 :cuddle; :cuddle; that's good des... go with the flow  until you gather some more strength!!!

Hang in there....
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« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2011, 01:02:05 PM »

Sorry for all this. If the questions are related to donor's test results, it is hard for the patient to do anything. We want the kidney, but we also want the donation to be safe for the donors. We just hope that medical professionals do the right thing.
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« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2011, 01:32:05 PM »

With what you are going through right now you have every right to feel the way you do.  I wish I was closer to give you a huge for real hug. 
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« Reply #19 on: April 23, 2011, 05:00:51 PM »

 :grouphug;

Just take each day as it comes, Des!

Reaching my arms all the way across that big, big ocean to give you a hug and hold you up.

 :grouphug;

 :kiss;

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« Reply #20 on: April 23, 2011, 05:17:40 PM »

Des, don't give up hope on a transplant.  I had two matching donors and the first one was eliminated for what I thought were minor issues and then at the end of all the testing for donor number two, he had to redo the dye test to check out his kidneys.  We made it all the way to "The Committee" and a surgeon on the team didn't like the results of that test, luckily they let him take it again and the results were much better than expected.
 
The 6 weeks between being told that they didn't like the results and the test being retaken were pretty dark for me.  Granted, I didn't have a surgery and complications during that time, but I was as stressed as I have ever been.  Don't give up hope yet, until they close your donor's case, there is hope.  Keep your chin up, rest and get through this infection stuff so you can be well enough for a transplant. :grouphug;
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« Reply #21 on: April 23, 2011, 07:46:26 PM »

I am sorry you have these stressful issues, I like to keep an eye on you even when I don't post much- you are an amazing woman! Keep your chin up! I am sure thats much easier said then done, and I wish I knew how to say what you need to hear. Thinking of you a lot!! :grouphug; :grouphug; :grouphug;
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« Reply #22 on: April 23, 2011, 08:34:12 PM »

Sorry to hear Des of the occurrances going on.
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« Reply #23 on: April 24, 2011, 05:42:09 AM »

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« Reply #24 on: April 24, 2011, 09:45:22 AM »

 :grouphug; :grouphug; I am sorry for what you are going thru, the hold up and the waiting.  You want to have the healthiest kidney donated to you, if there is something wrong with your donor you need to know now not after the transplant when its to late.  Please dont give up remember one day at a time we are here for you. :grouphug; :grouphug;
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