Facebook brou ha ha

[paris]

I created a huge "discussion" on my facebook page.  I simply put statistics regarding organ donation as my status.  ( # of people on the list, how long the wait time is, etc).   It was going along just fine, until my cousins boyfriend posted that he always checks NO when asked if he wants to donate his organs.   His reasoning?  Because we are not good enough Christians if we have to rely on scientific medical interventions.  All we need to do is pray. God heals us if we just believe hard enough and pray the right way.   Let me just say, all Hell broke loose.  Even WillieandWinnie gave Neil a piece of her mind (thanks for the support!).  It is causing some family upsets.  Now he has pm'd me and asked me to delete my entire thread so it will "die down" and everyone can move on.   NO WAY!    My status was just for information. Who would have ever expected an idiot relative to go on a rant about how we aren't good Christians?   By the way,  this is Gracie's (the orphan from Haiti) Mommy's boyfriend.   Some of us are extremely concerned about Katy's future with this nut case. How can anyone believe he will get good medical help if they are in an emergency?   I just needed to vent here for a moment.   So, if you're on facebook and want to get really worked up, please read and comment ----- because I am not deleting my thread!     Thanks for reading!  I am done   

[karen547]

Wow, that really is messed up. I mean I have nothing against religious people, I just happen to not be very religious myself. I hate it when someone goes and shoves their religion down someones throat like that. To say what he did, well he must be pretty ignorant.

[okarol]

May God bless him with excellent health all of his days.

[paris]

He just sent me a pm saying he will be glad to come to North Carolina and "lay his hands" on me to heal me!!  He isn't getting close enough to lay anything on me!!!!!   If I just believe enough-------       I guess this is an entire site of atheists. Why else would we all have kidney failure?  I replied to him by simply saying that I would be praying for him.

[Rerun]

I wrote this big long thing, but I've decided to not touch this one except to say that we need to lay hands on your niece to be healed from dumb love and dump this guy.

[Sluff]

Sounds a little like my sister. 

[paris]

I wrote this big long thing, but I've decided to not touch this one except to say that we need to lay hands on your niece to be healed from dumb love and dump this guy.

You made me laugh!!  Please Lord let Katy see the light before she goes any farther in this relationship! 

[kitkatz]

 

[galvo]

I'd happily lay my fists hands on him.

[MooseMom]

How arrogant of this guy to think that he knows the mind of God.  Perhaps he should consider the possibility that God helps those who help themselves...and others,  and that God has given us the ability to stretch our minds through science and our hearts through organ donation. 

[circleNthedrain]

Im a beliver in the power of prayer....if the boat is sinkin', pray, and row like hell for the shore!

[Mimi]

The religion of Christian Science believes only in spiritual healing and some will let their families and even themselves die before seeking medical treatment.  I believe God gave us medical doctors and nurses as a way of healing the body when it is sick and diseased.  I also believe in the power of prayer to be used along with doctors, nurses, and medicines.  I hope your neice realizes what she is getting into with this man.  I will be praying for them.

[Chris]

Guess I ahould pay more attention on Facebook rather than what has happened in the news about Facebook.
 
Thing that sticks in my mind is that Christianity supports and other religions support organ donation according to what I have read from NKF and UNOS.
 
I don't want him touching me either

[Wallyz]

Bad things don't happen to you if you have enough faith. Just look at Jesus. He had perfect faith and nothing bad ever happened to him. Plus, that guy Job. It says right there in the Bible he did horrible things to deserve all that illness and loss.

[RichardMEL]

I think karma will come back to this guy at some stage. The irony would be if he needed an organ transplant, or some kind of serious medical intevention at some stage. My grandmother on one side was a christian scientist (or whatever you call believers in Christian Science - what an ironic name btw) and it was sad when she was dying she refused medical care. Hey, that's her right absolutely.

I am not religious and I don't want to get into a big debate about that (we know how these tend to go here on IHD!) but I will say this - I find it objectionable for someone - anyone - to push their views on someone else (eg: "If you just pray hard enough you'll be healed" - which by inference suggests if you don't get magically healed that somehow you're not a good enough person in the eyes of God? I though God was all knowing, all loving, etc??). I have no issue with this guy's personal choice to not donate - it's his body and he can do what he likes - but to be pushing that stuff onto others, that gets my nose out of joint.

As for the "I'll come and lay my hands on you to heal you" yeah... ummm... scary?!! I'd write back and say "Sure, but only if we do it in a sauna with some stem cells...."

[Jean]

Im tellin you Paris, you do need a local hit man. If you ever see him, knock him upside the head for me, will you please?

[Darthvadar]

There's ALWAYS one, isn't there???...

Don't take down the thread.... Let it run it's course!... If nothing else, if he gets a hard time from family members, so be it... Might get him to think with his head (the one with the ears!)... Sorry, couldn't resist that!......

Perhaps it'll teach him to engage brain before accelerating mouth!.....

Grrrrrrrr!!!!!!.....

Darth....

[looneytunes]

Paris, I got steamed by reading this....I hope Katy comes to her senses soon;  before he leads her into a Jamestown situation.  What an absolute nutcase.  I agree with RM.....his inference is that if we are not healed through the power of prayer, then somehow we are not good enough.  That is NOT the God I know.   

[paris]

Thank you friends for your comments.  I have received emails from several family members who all are concerned about this guy and Katy's relationship (including Katy's Mom).  I am not the only one who thinks he is nuts.   I keep thinking about the story of the man on top of his house while the flood waters rise around him.  A row boat comes, but he refuses to get on "God will save me"   A helicoptor comes to rescue him, "No, God will save me".   Finally  he plees to God " God why did you forsake me?"   God relied, " I sent a boat and a helicoptor!".       We are expected to help ourselves and each other.   Thanks for helping me by listening.   

[karen547]

Wallyz are you saying that if we all prayed enough we wouldnt all have kidney disease??

[MooseMom]

I think Wallyz is being sarcastic.

[Brightsky69]

paris - no offense but your cousins boyfriend is a dumb a$$ mother f*cker!

[Sunny]

Block him from your Facebook so you don't have to deal with this wacko.
Is easy to do. A thoughtless bonehead like that has no right to have access to your Facebook page.
You'll feel so much better not having to even think about him again.(or at least it wil make it easier not ot think about him).

[Wallyz]

I think Wallyz is being sarcastic.

Why yes, yes I am.  Karen- Jesus is referred to as being without sin, yet he was betrayed tortured and crucified.  Job was described blameless before the lord and faithful, but God allowed horrific things to be done  to him.  People who say these sorts of things (pray harder, you will be cured) have obviously never read the Bible.

[paris]

Brightsky,      Couldn't have said it better myself!

Sunny, he is defriended.   

The hard thing with this is Katy is family. This nut case isn't, but poor Katy is caught in the middle.  I found out that he had a huge blow up Easter with Katy's Mom and Grandmother. Again he was spouting his version of Christianity.   Apparently, Katy just stood there not knowing who to defend.   Katy is in her early 30's and this is her first serious boyfriend. She has a gorgeous older sister and has always lived in her shadow. Katy is large, plain and bi-polar.  Her sister is extremely worried about Katy and fears that Katy thinks this is her only chance at marraige.  She would be much better just being  a mother to Gracie and forget having a man around.   Not sure how my innocent facebook status blew up into a major family event!!  Leave it to me!