Machiavelli wrote similar book. HemoDoc, you ducked the question. Alinsky wrote a book and you wish to condemn it because it has ideas on how to manipulate people. We have behavioral scientists, organizational development people, psychiatrists, Karl Rove, salesmen, and thousands of other occupations that are all in the business of manipulating people. I do believe your cheese has slipped off the cracker.gerald
Machiavelli wrote similar book. HemoDoc, you ducked the question. Alinsky wrote a book and you wish to condemn it because it has ideas on how to manipulate people. We have behavioral scientists, organizational development people, psychiatrists, Karl Rove, salesmen, and thousands of other occupations that are all in the business of manipulating people.I do believe your cheese has slipped off the cracker.gerald
Quote from: Hemodoc on February 02, 2012, 10:25:25 AMDear Cariad, I think you are beginning to bordrer on delusional and insane. I learned most about Saul Alinski during the 2008 election cycle. Please, don't think your little tyrade is anything but a delusion.Devolving into personal attacks again? How hypocritical. I am engaging in discussion that you started, and I find your comments on my mental state offensive and unbecoming of anyone, especially a physician.
Dear Cariad, I think you are beginning to bordrer on delusional and insane. I learned most about Saul Alinski during the 2008 election cycle. Please, don't think your little tyrade is anything but a delusion.
Book burning, huh! What sort of society does that?
Yup, I have read Machiavelli in my younger days and I throw his garbage in the same heap as Alinski, Rubin all the other retards in the radical world. In fact, with all of my 1% wealth, I might just get a bonfire going in front of my house with all of this garbage and clean it off of the streets for a while.
Oh shucks, don't you know that is what all of us right wing, knuckle draggers teach our kids. Maybe we should just go and drag out half of the books in the library and get rid of this garbage. Geez, that stuff will really polute your mind you know Gerald. You should be careful with that or you might end up arguing insane arguments with no utility behind them and becoming a mind reader on top of that.
Book burning, anti-public demonstrations, support for political organizations that also support racism, anti-government sponsored healthcare, support for upper-class tax breaks, larger defense budget, anti FDA HemoDoc, you are painting a very ugly picture.Shall I put a name to your kind of thinking?gerald
It is truly amazing how you duck a direct question. It is equally amazing how you refuse to see what is placed in front of you.gerald
Hey, I'm just an old curmudgeon who is barely able to walk. What do I know? Say, will you send me one of those little arm bands with the ziggy-zaggy emblems on it?gl
I find it weird that you keep referring to your wife as a browned skinned woman. It seems like a better way to describe her would be of African-American decent, of Latin American decent, of Asian decent or whatever she is. Brown skinned just sounds awful to me.
"Moby the Whale Pale"...sounds like a new Martha Stewart crockery color. LOL!
Quote from: MooseMom on February 02, 2012, 12:08:16 PM"Moby the Whale Pale"...sounds like a new Martha Stewart crockery color. LOL!Moosemom, do you have any questions? You are the only one that takes a reasonable approach to discussion for which I am grateful even though there are elements we have simply agreed to disagree on. Have a great day Moosemom and don't get burnt at the tanning solon. Red skin is really a pain,God bless,Peter
Quote from: Hemodoc on February 02, 2012, 12:24:12 PMQuote from: MooseMom on February 02, 2012, 12:08:16 PM"Moby the Whale Pale"...sounds like a new Martha Stewart crockery color. LOL!Moosemom, do you have any questions? You are the only one that takes a reasonable approach to discussion for which I am grateful even though there are elements we have simply agreed to disagree on. Have a great day Moosemom and don't get burnt at the tanning solon. Red skin is really a pain,God bless,PeterNo, I don't have any questions...for now! haha! Unfortunately, while I was growing up in the inferno that is Texas, no one had really ever heard of sunscreen. And we'd spend all summer in the pool. I recall only once ever getting sunburned, but once was quite enough, thank you very much. I am hoping that my many years in England where the sun never shines and my current vigilant use of suncreen with an SPF of about a million will keep me from getting skin cancer. I would NEVER go to a tanning salon. EVER! If that means I'm Moby Whale Pale, so be it.Hope you are feeling better now that you have some iron in you! Glad to see you back on the board; it shows you are well enough to get mad. LOL! That's a GOOD thing!
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